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Why republicans are unfit to govern in just 1 chart

Vern said:
Okay, I was trying to protect my source. He's the same unnamed source who told fox news that President Obama issued two stand down orders in Benghazi. Now we learned he lied after the first investigation of the attacks in Benghazi yet we got 8 more investigations. He says he wanted to make up for that so he gave me the Obstructionism chart that proves republicans are unfit to govern. Now if my source was good enough for republicans to have 8 more investigations into Benghazi, he's good enough for this forum. Oh, which reminds me, here's another chart to prove republicans are unfit to govern.

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Vern said:
Okay, I was trying to protect my source. He's the same unnamed source who told fox news that President Obama issued two stand down orders in Benghazi. Now we learned he lied after the first investigation of the attacks in Benghazi yet we got 8 more investigations. He says he wanted to make up for that so he gave me the Obstructionism chart that proves republicans are unfit to govern. Now if my source was good enough for republicans to have 8 more investigations into Benghazi, he's good enough for this forum. Oh, which reminds me, here's another chart to prove republicans are unfit to govern.

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You're your own source, aren't you.
 
dimensionallava said:
its going by a percentage so im guessing it includes things like shutting down the government, based on principles nobody ever heard of two years prior
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Both parties shut down government since they were being stubborn asshats since they could not agree on a bill.

First was the liberals as they went on vacation for a few days

Than they came back and the republicans thought it wise to follow that example

So they after shut down the government and the government eventually opened after a few days

Neither party is innocent

Amazingly there was no chaos and everyone went to work the next day but all the parks and local libraries were closed
 
MisterLogical said:
Both parties shut down government since they were being stubborn asshats since they could not agree on a bill.

First was the liberals as they went on vacation for a few days

Than they came back and the republicans thought it wise to follow that example

So they after shut down the government and the government eventually opened after a few days

Neither party is innocent
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really i thought they shut it down because of a planned parenthood video? or is that the next one?
 
bubbabgone said:
You're your own source, aren't you.
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really? you reply to the second graph to ask if I'm my own source? not the first one, the second one? anyhoo, my sources for the second one are the librul media and my unnamed source. check out this lamestream media article

"Many of the new report's findings were similar to those in six previous investigations by congressional committees and a State Department panel. The eighth Benghazi investigation is being carried out by a House Select Committee appointed in May."

Graham critical of new GOP House report on Benghazi, calls findings 'garbage' | Fox News

Of course the librul media says the eighth investigation is underway but my unnamed source says there was a secret investigation that was never disclosed. And its shocking conclusions were withheld from the public: it determined the same thing as the other 7 investigations.
 
I feel like I/we are getting trolled.
 
bg85 said:
I feel like I/we are getting trolled.
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No way man. Fox news really did have an unnamed source for the original stand down lies. I know its unbelievable but here it is

Fox News has learned from sources who were on the ground in Benghazi that an urgent request from the CIA annex for military back-up during the attack on the U.S. consulate and subsequent attack several hours later on the annex itself was denied by the CIA chain of command -- who also told the CIA operators twice to "stand down" rather than help the ambassador's team when shots were heard at approximately 9:40 p.m. in Benghazi on Sept. 11.

EXCLUSIVE: CIA operators were denied request for help during Benghazi attack, sources say | Fox News

That's why we got 8 more investigations into Benghazi after the first one shredded Fox's lies. I can show you Tenet and cheney lying to the 9-11 commission. Where's the second 9-11 investigation let alone 8 more?

And whats up with republicans shutting down the ExIm bank, it was profitable and helped small businesses. Again, if it helps the economy they are against it. Like I said republicans are unfit govern.
 
Redress said:
Wait! So you can actually cite sources? Then why the painfully bad OP that failed to cite any source or define any term of provide any backing in any way?
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Redress I find it funny you complain about a lack of “cites” because when I post them it does no good. Once a conservative has made up his (or her) mind to believe something, no fact is good enough. Just click on the link to the FAQ thread. I posted dozens links that simply cant be disputed to show the Bush Mortgage Bubble started late 2004 because of Bush's policies but it served no purpose simply because its not what conservatives want to believe. and why did QuadpolarNutjob post that ridiculous editorial in this thread? Seems like he was responding to something I didn’t post ( I get that a lot) . So pardon me if I enjoy the obstructionism chart I got from an unnamed source with unimpeachable credentials (except for the lying “stand down” thing).
 
The Chart is inaccurate, biased, and does not have sufficient evidence to back it up. That said I do agree that Reps say they want to help, but only made things worse.
Ever since those (correlation not causation here) Tax cuts all I've seen are people complaining about the lack of jobs, or inflation lowering the value of static paying jobs. I don't feel as though either party has really done much to change anything. Kinda just talk, and maybe a bill, but no momentum or force to actually walk forward.
 
dimensionallava said:
its going by a percentage so im guessing it includes things like shutting down the government, based on principles nobody ever heard of two years prior
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The government was shut down? I must have missed it. It might be a good idea to shut down for a week every month.
 
Glen Contrarian said:
I take it those are filibusters?
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Not exactly sure what your point is but a filibuster may or may not have occurred but what Obama agenda item wasn't passed? It does appear that threats of filibuster in the liberal world means it actually happened when the reality is cloture votes actually occurred to prevent a filibuster in most issues? Liberals are looking for anything they can to divert from the Obama failures and the very poor economic performance. Not surprising that this is another Vern thread to generate attention and promote his leftwing ideology
 
Oh goody!

Vern has learned how to create charts on his PC, and how to upload them to DP.

Move along. Nothing to see here.
 
Vern said:
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So the Democrats strategy is to turn the rest of America into the basket case that is California ?

That's how you run a government ? By essentially bankrupting it and tanking its economy ?
 
Vern said:
Redress I find it funny you complain about a lack of “cites” because when I post them it does no good. Once a conservative has made up his (or her) mind to believe something, no fact is good enough. Just click on the link to the FAQ thread. I posted dozens links that simply cant be disputed to show the Bush Mortgage Bubble started late 2004 because of Bush's policies but it served no purpose simply because its not what conservatives want to believe. and why did QuadpolarNutjob post that ridiculous editorial in this thread? Seems like he was responding to something I didn’t post ( I get that a lot) . So pardon me if I enjoy the obstructionism chart I got from an unnamed source with unimpeachable credentials (except for the lying “stand down” thing).
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1999..

Fannie Mae Eases Credit To Aid Mortgage Lending - NYTimes.com
 
Lutherf said:
Well, Vern, we all like to just be left alone to do what we figure we need to do but when that "we" is the US Federal government the absolute LAST thing we want to do is just let them move along with their plans all unobstructed and stuff. That's kind of like letting your 15 year old daughter's boyfriend decide how their relationship should play out without giving yourself any say so.
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Why do conservatives love to equate the government to an irresponsible teenager?

Do they not see that the world around them is more complex than some stupid sitcom ?
 
OrphanSlug said:
None of these charts mean anything without context and/or what they are based on. Without the source we have little to debate, and the OP graph makes a definitive statement without any direction as to where the numbers came from or what they mean.

And using the "good enough for Republicans" debate in the manner you have boils down to the "but mommy, he used a bad word too" defense.

Now again, what does the OP graph really measure? What is that based on?
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The resentment level of the OP toward a president whose been gone for two whole terms, that's what it measures
 
Vern said:
quad, I'll see your lying conservative editorial and raise you a thread with dozens of solid factual links. the first link alone shreds 99% of conservative editorials
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In 2003 this was happening at the GSEs...

January Freddie Mac announces it has to restate financial results for the previous three years.

September: Fannie Mae discloses SEC investigation and acknowledges OFHEO’s review found earnings manipulations.

October: Fannie Mae discloses $1.2 billion accounting error.

2004 the Bush administration called for a third party regulator...

February: The President’s FY05 Budget again highlights the risk posed by the explosive growth of the GSEs and their low levels of required capital, and called for creation of a new, world-class regulator: “The Administration has determined that the safety and soundness regulators of the housing GSEs lack sufficient power and stature to meet their responsibilities, and therefore…should be replaced with a new strengthened regulator.”

Bush&#39s Calls for Financial Reform Ignored

This was the Democrats response....



 
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Fenton said:
In 2003 this was happening at the GSEs...

January Freddie Mac announces it has to restate financial results for the previous three years.

September: Fannie Mae discloses SEC investigation and acknowledges OFHEO’s review found earnings manipulations.

October: Fannie Mae discloses $1.2 billion accounting error.

2004 the Bush administration called for a third party regulator...

February: The President’s FY05 Budget again highlights the risk posed by the explosive growth of the GSEs and their low levels of required capital, and called for creation of a new, world-class regulator: “The Administration has determined that the safety and soundness regulators of the housing GSEs lack sufficient power and stature to meet their responsibilities, and therefore…should be replaced with a new strengthened regulator.”

This was the Democrats response....

The Honorable George W. Bush
President of the United States
The White House
Washington, DC 20050
Dear Mr. President:

June 28, 2004

" We urge you to reconsider your Administration's criticisms of the housing-related government sponsored enterprises (the "GSEs'') and instead work with Congress to strengthen the mission and oversight of the GSEs. We write as members of the House of Representatives who continually press the GSEs to do more in affordable housing. Until recently, we have been disappointed that the Administration has not been more supportive of our efforts to press the GSEs to do more.

We have been concerned that the Administration's legislative proposal regarding the GSEs would weaken affordable housing performance by the GSEs, by emphasizing only safety and soundness. While the GSEs' affordable housing mission is not in any way incompatible with their safety and soundness, an exclusive focus on safety and soundness is likely to come, in practice, at the expense of affordable housing."

We have been led to conclude that the Administration does not appreciate the importance of the GSE's affordable housing mission, as. evidenced by its refusal to work with the House and Senate on this important legislation."
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Fed Study Debunks Conservative Myth That Affordable Housing Policies Caused Subprime Crisis | ThinkProgress
 
Fearandloathing said:
I knew it!

The chart was created to hide this fact.
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Fearandloathing said:
The resentment level of the OP toward a president whose been gone for two whole terms, that's what it measures
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FL, it measures exactly what it measures, republicans obstructing everything President Obama did trying to prevent the Great Bush Depresson, to end the Great Bush Recession and to help the economy grow. Here are some examples: Filibusters, shutdowns, threatening to default on the debt, blocking a jobs bill, attacking the stimulus and auto bailout, blocking nominations, not letting the Bush tax cuts expire as scheduled for the top 2%, not letting the tax cuts expire as re-scheduled for the top 2%, blocking the extension of UE benefits. And now republicans have shut down the ExIm bank.

The only thing related to Bush is the derangement of conservatives. You literally want the economy to fail or even a massive terrorist attack so you can say "ha, he was as bad as bush". How do you call yourself an American?
 
OrphanSlug said:
What the **** is this useless ****?
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that is liberal logic at it's finest. so I guess that makes them unqualified to govern anything.
fact is Obama oversaw the worst US recovery in history.
 
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