Why Not a Great Wall?

[CalGun]

China's got one.

We could employ a lot of people. We build is 60 feet hight and 30 feet thick with a nice bike path on top. We place solar panels on the southern side and it would produce a lot of power. 2000 miles x 5280 linear feet x three panels high would equate more then a nuclear power plans or two. It'd be possible to employ production teams that dig on site, make adobe compressed earth bricks, and install them without serious enviro hazards. With the millions of unemployed I'll bet we can get it done in a few years.

What a cool tourist attraction it'd be, power source, and solve the open border fiasco. Of course we have places to pass thru. Wherever needed, and where they aren't we can use cameras to make sure it's all good.

BTW it'd produce 10.6 million kilowatt hours a day. That is enough for 5 - 6 million small / medium size homes.

 

[TheDemSocialist]

So your for a public works program? And also because well a wall is always penetrable. Just go around, under, or over it.

 

[Rainman05]

You do know the Great Wall of China didn't work... right? I mean, the mongols conquered them... and then the Manchu conquered them 300 years after that.

 

[PirateMk1]

China's got one.

We could employ a lot of people. We build is 60 feet hight and 30 feet thick with a nice bike path on top. We place solar panels on the southern side and it would produce a lot of power. 2000 miles x 5280 linear feet x three panels high would equate more then a nuclear power plans or two. It'd be possible to employ production teams that dig on site, make adobe compressed earth bricks, and install them without serious enviro hazards. With the millions of unemployed I'll bet we can get it done in a few years.

What a cool tourist attraction it'd be, power source, and solve the open border fiasco. Of course we have places to pass thru. Wherever needed, and where they aren't we can use cameras to make sure it's all good.

BTW it'd produce 10.6 million kilowatt hours a day. That is enough for 5 - 6 million small / medium size homes.

Well hell. If we are gona build a fricken fence we may as well do it right. Put it on the Mexican side to boot. Make it with auto turrets and put a mine field in front of it. Dig a moat too. Put sharks with fricken lasers in their heads in it. Yeaaa baby.

(I have been watching too much Austin Powers)

 

[joG]

China's got one.

We could employ a lot of people. We build is 60 feet hight and 30 feet thick with a nice bike path on top. We place solar panels on the southern side and it would produce a lot of power. 2000 miles x 5280 linear feet x three panels high would equate more then a nuclear power plans or two. It'd be possible to employ production teams that dig on site, make adobe compressed earth bricks, and install them without serious enviro hazards. With the millions of unemployed I'll bet we can get it done in a few years.

What a cool tourist attraction it'd be, power source, and solve the open border fiasco. Of course we have places to pass thru. Wherever needed, and where they aren't we can use cameras to make sure it's all good.

BTW it'd produce 10.6 million kilowatt hours a day. That is enough for 5 - 6 million small / medium size homes.

We could even show our good will be employing Mexican contractors.

Or were you thinking of Canada?

 

[longview]

I think an approach worth looking at, would be to make Mexico the wall.
Expand NAFTA, to allow citizens of the the 3 countries to who are in good legal standing
to work anywhere.
I think Mexico can do a good job of stopping illegals from elsewhere.
Mexico needs to address their corruption issues, but if done correctly,
this could help all 3 countries.

 

[azgreg]

China's got one.

We could employ a lot of people. We build is 60 feet hight and 30 feet thick with a nice bike path on top. We place solar panels on the southern side and it would produce a lot of power. 2000 miles x 5280 linear feet x three panels high would equate more then a nuclear power plans or two. It'd be possible to employ production teams that dig on site, make adobe compressed earth bricks, and install them without serious enviro hazards. With the millions of unemployed I'll bet we can get it done in a few years.

What a cool tourist attraction it'd be, power source, and solve the open border fiasco. Of course we have places to pass thru. Wherever needed, and where they aren't we can use cameras to make sure it's all good.

BTW it'd produce 10.6 million kilowatt hours a day. That is enough for 5 - 6 million small / medium size homes.

The only people you could get to build it will be the Mexicans and they will just install hidden passages so it will be useless. :mrgreen:

 

[CalGun]

Ah but they are still there!

You do know the Great Wall of China didn't work... right? I mean, the mongols conquered them... and then the Manchu conquered them 300 years after that.

 

[Rainman05]

Ah but they are still there!

Yes but it's pointless. It is an exercise in futility.

Better just have drones survery the area and alert the border guards. It will be cheaper and better.

 

[Jetboogieman]

China's got one.

Yeah and at the time it bankrupted the entire Kingdom, was never finished and only ever got used once before it was abandoned...

Great one to look up to there.

 

[CalGun]

Yeah but they didn't supply 6 million homes power from theirs, but they do bank on it now - nice tourist attraction. All we saddle our future with is debt - what's this generation building for the future? A central bank with trillions of notes?

Yeah and at the time it bankrupted the entire Kingdom, was never finished and only ever got used once before it was abandoned...

Great one to look up to there.

 

[jamesrage]

You do know the Great Wall of China didn't work... right? I mean, the mongols conquered them... and then the Manchu conquered them 300 years after that.

People who say that obviously have no idea what they hell they are talking about.The Chinese throughout the centuries rebuilt the wall, extended the wall and built it in different locations.The Great wall of China is not one wall it is a collection of walls built through out the centuries. So the idea it didn't work is absurd.

 

[Rainman05]

People who say that obviously have no idea what they hell they are talking about.The Chinese throughout the centuries rebuilt the wall, extended the wall and built it in different locations.The Great wall of China is not one wall it is a collection of walls built through out the centuries. So the idea it didn't work is absurd.

It was considered complete in the XIVth century after 2000 years of work. And the final additions, to modernize it, were added in the late XVIIth century. The mongols conquered the chinesse in the XIIIth century and the Manchu about 400 years after that. When the wall was complete. So again, that's the whole idea of the great chinesse wall, it didn't work. That was the joke -> You build a big wall that doesn't work.

 

[Paxaeon]

People who say that obviously have no idea what they hell they are talking about.The Chinese throughout the centuries rebuilt the wall, extended the wall and built it in different locations.The Great wall of China is not one wall it is a collection of walls built through out the centuries. So the idea it didn't work is absurd.

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Five centuries to be exact. So if we start now, we'll be done by 2514

 

[jamesrage]

It was considered complete in the XIVth century after 2000 years of work. And the final additions, to modernize it, were added in the late XVIIth century. The mongols conquered the chinesse in the XIIIth century and the Manchu about 400 years after that. When the wall was complete. So again, that's the whole idea of the great chinesse wall, it didn't work. That was the joke -> You build a big wall that doesn't work.

It worked through out the centuries a handful of defeats does not mean the wall didn't work.

 

[Rainman05]

It worked through out the centuries a handful of defeats does not mean the wall didn't work.

Ok.

Then make a wall south of mexico and 2 conquests, 3-400 years apart and you're happy with that.

 

[jamesrage]

Ok.

Then make a wall south of mexico and 2 conquests, 3-400 years apart and you're happy with that.

You are not making any sense.

 

[Rainman05]

You are not making any sense.

The great wall of china was a 2000year long project. A huge undertaking taken repeatedly by numerous emperors (when china was unified) and warlords (when china was splitted up) because they were very concerned with the hordes to the north. Which were a real danger. I mean, the mongol hordes under Genghis Khan (and his descendants) and his golden horde wasn't the only horde that managed to ravage the land. There were quite a lot of tribes (you had the tartars, the megids, and others) that got big and did a lot of conquest and made incursions into China though the mongol horde under Genghis Khan was the greatest and the most successful, managing to conquer it entirely.


I mean, ofc, the great wall was also something else aside from a defensive fortification. It was a symbol of tyranny due to the nature of its construction and who was constructing it and under what guidelines. But that's a whole different aspect.

So to dedicate so much effort to such a project only to have it fail twice with the most horrible result, full conquest of the erector, is a joke. So make a "great wall of USA" to the south border and then don't look surprised if you get conquered twice by the mexicans. Mexicans, mongols... they both start with the letter "m". So who knows...

 

[jamesrage]

The great wall of china was a 2000year long project. A huge undertaking taken repeatedly by numerous emperors (when china was unified) and warlords (when china was splitted up) because they were very concerned with the hordes to the north. Which were a real danger. I mean, the mongol hordes under Genghis Khan (and his descendants) and his golden horde wasn't the only horde that managed to ravage the land. There were quite a lot of tribes (you had the tartars, the megids, and others) that got big and did a lot of conquest and made incursions into China though the mongol horde under Genghis Khan was the greatest and the most successful, managing to conquer it entirely.


I mean, ofc, the great wall was also something else aside from a defensive fortification. It was a symbol of tyranny due to the nature of its construction and who was constructing it and under what guidelines. But that's a whole different aspect.

So to dedicate so much effort to such a project only to have it fail twice with the most horrible result, full conquest of the erector, is a joke. So make a "great wall of USA" to the south border and then don't look surprised if you get conquered twice by the mexicans. Mexicans, mongols... they both start with the letter "m". So who knows...

It was a not a 2000 year long project.It was a series of different projects mean to provide protection for what was needed at the time.Those needs changed over time and so did the locations of the wall and sometimes the wall was extended. Mexico has an inferior army our wall would be keep out and deter people from crossing into the US illegally.

 

[Rainman05]

It was a not a 2000 year long project.It was a series of different projects mean to provide protection for what was needed at the time.Those needs changed over time and so did the locations of the wall and sometimes the wall was extended. Mexico has an inferior army our wall would be keep out and deter people from crossing into the US illegally.

It was started in the XVIIth century BC and finished completely with no further additions in the XVIIth century.

 

[radcen]

Well hell. If we are gona build a fricken fence we may as well do it right. Put it on the Mexican side to boot. Make it with auto turrets and put a mine field in front of it. Dig a moat too. Put sharks with fricken lasers in their heads in it. Yeaaa baby.

(I have been watching too much Austin Powers)

I say we pour molten lead on them.

 

[274ina]

THE WALL
It would be

501,600 20' wide panels - 60 tons each – 1900miles long
35' high
5' underground

Mass produced in prestressed concrete panels

250,000 Volts wires on top.
(even a wooden ladder would arc and fry them)
With 5 teams working 24/7, to emplace each panel every 10 min, it would take 2 years.



Digging or blowing up would trigger vibration sensors and bring ICE
Quick response teams.


It would employ lots of Americans, we could use old Katrina homes for movable temp housing.

Walls work
E German wall only 5000 people got over in 50+ years.
Palestine wall also works great
USA caught 500,000 last year and many more got passed.

And if we built it already like we should have, we would not have the childrens invasion like we do now, and no one to
"process" and let go in USA.


http://d.ibtimes.co.uk/en/full/1367...states-construction.jpg?w=720&h=426&l=50&t=40

 

[274ina]

So your for a public works program? And also because well a wall is always penetrable. Just go around, under, or over it.

Cant go around it, its 1900 miles long...............

Cant go under, its 5' under ground, and has vibration sensors that bring ICE choppers...........

Cant go over, 250,000 volts fry you to a crisp........



PS a wood ladder and rubber gloves will not work............but go ahead and tell them to try it!!!!! LMAO



History shows WALLS WORK.


E German wall only 5000 people got over in 50+ years.
Palestine wall also works great

 

[jamesrage]

It was started in the XVIIth century BC and finished completely with no further additions in the XVIIth century.

Again the great wall of China is not a single wall. They were a series of walls meant to provide protection for what was needed at the time.So the idea it took a couple thousand years to finish is absurd, it would be like saying it took the Egyptians and Mesoamerican people a couple thousand years or so to complete their pyramids.

 

[radcen]

THE WALL
It would be

501,600 20' wide panels - 60 tons each – 1900miles long
35' high
5' underground

Mass produced in prestressed concrete panels

250,000 Volts wires on top.
(even a wooden ladder would arc and fry them)
With 5 teams working 24/7, to emplace each panel every 10 min, it would take 2 years.



Digging or blowing up would trigger vibration sensors and bring ICE
Quick response teams.


It would employ lots of Americans, we could use old Katrina homes for movable temp housing.

Walls work
E German wall only 5000 people got over in 50+ years.
Palestine wall also works great
USA caught 500,000 last year and many more got passed.

And if we built it already like we should have, we would not have the childrens invasion like we do now, and no one to
"process" and let go in USA.


http://d.ibtimes.co.uk/en/full/1367...states-construction.jpg?w=720&h=426&l=50&t=40

It would be cheaper to simply enforce our immigration laws and remove the incentive that make coming here illegally so attractive.