Why isn't Joe Biden out there defending himself?

[Lord of Planar]

Fighter pilots don't let their annual physicals expire, like Bush did. It's simply unheard of. It's obvious Bush was AWOL while he was with the Alabama Air National Guard. He avoided Vietnam by joining the Air National Guard and then was too much of a drunk f**k-up and drug addict to even show up for duty once per month. Pretty pathetic.

This is why you guys elect the wrong people. You are seen as useless, when you let your confirmation bias dictate what fact is, and is not.

 

[SonOfDaedalus]

When you are in such high level positions, you place people you can trust in important jobs. Maybe Biden never trusted his son?

It's highly unusual for a president or vice president to hire a relative to work in the White House. Especially, when that relative has business conflicts.

How is the weather in Planar today?

 

[Oborosen]

When one is facing scandal like this, a political candidate must tread very carefully in what they say. What could a gaff machine like Biden say that wouldn't end up blowing up in his face?

"No, my son DID NOT get this job based on his relationship to me, but solely on his merits as a dishonorably discharged drug addict drummed out of the U.S. Navy."?

"No, I did not brag about interfere in the governing of a foreign nation that may or may not have inured to the benefit of my son."?

Best to shut his face and hope this blows over.

Strange, I wonder how bad it would be if all of this stuff came out. Say well before Trump even spoke about it...

Biden, Inc.: How ‘Middle Class’ Joe’s family cashed in on the family name - POLITICO Magazine

 

[iguanaman]

With the evidence that is claimed, Trump is still walking free.

Maybe the evidence is a lie...

LOL So that's the metric now? Trump's not in jail yet so you win?

 

[iguanaman]

Strange, I wonder how bad it would be if all of this stuff came out. Say well before Trump even spoke about it...

Biden, Inc.: How ‘Middle Class’ Joe’s family cashed in on the family name - POLITICO Magazine

More of the pot calling the kettle black?

 

[Lord of Planar]

LOL So that's the metric now? Trump's not in jail yet so you win?

After the millions and millions spent on investigations, and nothing actionable yet?

Think about it for a moment.

 

[iguanaman]

After the millions and millions spent on investigations, and nothing actionable yet?

Think about it for a moment.

The Muller investigation made a profit. The $20 million that Manafort forfeited more than covered it. Trump is only out of jail because he is President and he knows it. That's why impeachment terrifies him.

 

[Lord of Planar]

The Muller investigation made a profit. The $20 million that Manafort forfeited more than covered it. Trump is only out of jail because he is President and he knows it. That's why impeachment terrifies him.

You are delusional.

 

[Iron_Merc]

You are delusional.

The don't have anything on Trump. The impeachment effort will fail - America will never be a socialist nation.

If you want to see corruption, look into the Clinton Foundation.

 

[Lord of Planar]

The don't have anything on Trump. The impeachment effort will fail - America will never be a socialist nation.

If you want to see corruption, look into the Clinton Foundation.

I agree.

It's all fabricated, using coincidental facts. That's why the lies are so easily believed by the sheeple.

This thing with Biden and the Ukraine, I'll bet has real teeth. I followed the corruption back then, and how the democrats supported the wrong side.

 

[iguanaman]

I agree.

It's all fabricated, using coincidental facts. That's why the lies are so easily believed by the sheeple.

This thing with Biden and the Ukraine, I'll bet has real teeth. I followed the corruption back then, and how the democrats supported the wrong side.

LOL You are a laugh a minute tonight. Here's the poster child of being on the 'wrong side" in Ukraine...

 

[Lord of Planar]

LOL You are a laugh a minute tonight. Here's the poster child of being on the 'wrong side" in Ukraine...

So?

Are you on the inside, and know exactly why the agreements were as they were?

Care to explain why this matters?

 

[Oborosen]

More of the pot calling the kettle black?

Seeing as this all came out before Trump even mentioned it and yet, now all of it is considered to be a conspiracy by the left...

I don't see your attempted connection. Seeing as this was still within the scope of the Trump business.

So I'd need to know to what you're trying to specifically point out here.

 

[JustHanging]

Biden can't defend defenseless position....

Why not? Trump does it daily. Makes **** up, and his base takes it hook, line, and sinker.

 

[RealityNow]

Romney never countered Harry Reids accusation about not paying taxes strong enough....it hurts a candidate not to refute strong allegations like Trump is throwing at Biden.

You folks don't get it....the way Trump is acting...is the way an innocent person acts when hit with accusations of treason.....If you don't fight for yourself how can you expect me to fight for you....

Trump is a fool... he thinks he's King of America..... Trump demonstrates over and over how "guilty" he is!!! and then he follow it up, asking China to dig for dirty for him. Now... anyone paying attention know this is the exact replay of what he did with Russia.

 

[RealityNow]

Seeing as this all came out before Trump even mentioned it and yet, now all of it is considered to be a conspiracy by the left...

I don't see your attempted connection. Seeing as this was still within the scope of the Trump business.

So I'd need to know to what you're trying to specifically point out here.

That picture represents exactly what each of them should get..... !!!

 

[joko104]

The answer is 4.

What is wrong with a private citizen profiting from his family name? And how is Joe Biden responsible for the actions of his son?

Now let's see your capacity for rational thought.

The conflict of interests of Joe Biden is obvious. He should have recused himself since he was not the president anyway.

 

[joko104]

You're assuming people are not taking him seriously.

I had this dinner with an acquaintance I knew for years. He brought up Hillary Clinton Uranium One. This guy is an Ivy League doctor and he didn't know this was a debunked conspiracy theory. I had to explain to him why that story was false. Lies spread far faster and wider than any truth.

I hear real people, liberals, saying basically, "maybe both Biden and Trump are bad." When people can't figure out who is telling the truth, that's what happens.

I'm not going to keep arguing my point. I hope this strategy works for Biden but I for one am very disappointed that he's not out there fighting back.

It was never "debunked."

 

[joko104]

Why was Joe Biden involved at all in Ukraine? He was not the president.

The answer given is that Biden was the president's "point man" on Ukraine. So, accordingly, Russia invading and seizing Crimea and Eastern Ukraine in Joe Biden's lap. Thus, in fact, Joe Biden was THE greatest supporter of Putin and Russia on earth. NO ONE more assisted and helped Russia and Putin the Vice President Joe Biden - and in this he demonstrated what type of president he would be on foreign policy.

 

[diz]

What's your point? At best you can make a good case against Hunter Biden. So, what? Hunter Biden could be a serial killer and that would still have nothing to do with Joe Biden.

Gen. James Mattis was on the board of Theranos. Does he know anything about the medial industry or blood testing? No. Companies put big names on their board for prestige. Hunter Biden adds some reputation to the company.

When are you going to make a point about Joe Biden?

Well, again this seems like a pretty obvious one once we've agreed they paid Hunter Biden for political influence.

What political influence does Hunter Biden have to sell?

 

[diz]

Regarding #2, some food for thought:

How much of an expert does one have to be in Ukrainian gas market dynamics?

I'm going to go with "more than the next most qualified guy".

 

[iguanaman]

Seeing as this all came out before Trump even mentioned it and yet, now all of it is considered to be a conspiracy by the left...

I don't see your attempted connection. Seeing as this was still within the scope of the Trump business.

So I'd need to know to what you're trying to specifically point out here.

Things like the Presidents son-in-law being made point man for mid east peace without any qualifications whatsoever and then running around on AF1 collecting many millions in loans for his family business from nations in the mideast. Ivanka getting trademarks approved in China worth millions because it pleases her daddy. The nepotism of DJT is unprecedented in the modern era yet Bidens son is somehow more corrupt than his own family who are blatantly sponging off their fathers position.

According to the New York Times Kushner’s company received an investment nearing $30m from Menora Mivtachim, one of Israel’s largest insurers, in the spring of 2017, shortly before the president and his son-in-law visited the country. According to the report, the funds were directed into a Maryland development.

Kushner, who has been charged with brokering peace between Israel and Palestine, has taken out at least four loans from Bank Hapoalim, Israel’s largest bank and currently under a US Department of Justice criminal investigation.

Jared Kushner's company under renewed scrutiny over Chinese and Israeli deals | US news | The Guardian

 

[iguanaman]

So?

Are you on the inside, and know exactly why the agreements were as they were?

Care to explain why this matters?

Manafort was Trumps campaign manager and is now in jail for his dealings with oligarchs close to Putin in Ukraine. That was the wrong side you claimed Democrats took.

 

[Checkerboard Strangler]

I'm going to go with "more than the next most qualified guy".

And maybe you're right but that doesn't change the fact that a co like Burisma, being where they are, needs to have a set of eyes and ears from the US over there on the board, because Russia's oil and gas hegemony is maybe the most important item on the Russian agenda.
What else does Russia have for trade? Caviar? Vodka? Fur? Maybe lumber, although I suspect they need most of that domestically.

Oil and gas is their most important product. And Ukraine is right next door.
If you're Russia, you WANT Ukraine under your thumb, strategically speaking.
How do you weaken the US?
By making sure no Americans are on the board of a Ukraine fracking company and if there are, by discrediting them.

Do I really care if Hunter Biden is an angel? I'd like to care more but I am not a fan of his father as POTUS.
But that doesn't change the facts in evidence, namely a sitting Prezzy demanding Ukraine manufacture nonsense on an oppo candidate.
Trump didn't even care if there was an actual investigation, all he really wanted was the ANNOUNCEMENT.

It's all in the evidence basket now.

 

[tres borrachos]

Biden to Trump: 'You're not going to destroy me'

Its just not getting the press because Trump's decent into madness is sucking all the oxygen out of the room.

I think you meant "Trump's descent into madness". "Trump" and "decent" have never appeared in the same sentence for a reason.