Why is the uncovering of the Epstein files so important?

[Allan]

How many people on this site are drooling with excitement hoping to read names of prominent people who may or may not be guilty of anything?
It's like when Hitler was almost assassinated in 1944 by a group of military officers and politicians. They were all executed along with thousands of their family members. And even those who had no part in the assassination attempt were also murdered. That's called guilt by association.
Is that what the anti-Trumper are looking for? Not only those who visited the island but the friends and relatives of those who went to the island are in danger of being guilty by association.

 

[CaughtInThe]

Ask the victims.

Oh that's right, you can't.

Some of the victims have already spoken out. One of them said she was scared for her life so she dropped the lawsuit.

If that happens in your town who side are you on?

 

[CaughtInThe]

I wouldn't know a pedophile in my town if I bumped into one on a street.
How would I know?

That's pretty much the point. Release the information so we know and the victims can have some peace.

 

[jaypatriot]

Agreed.
Whatever works.
Remember, with all the murder, bootlegging, prostitution rackets overseen by Al Capone, he was finally brought down by something as simple as tax evasion.

Its fortunate for the good people in this country that Donald has been such a piece of shite all his life.
Lots of nasty dirt to dredge up.

Sometimes Trump Derangement Syndrome has no bounds.
If it has anything to do with Trump, anyone involved in that must also be bad.

 

[CaughtInThe]

How many people on this site are drooling with excitement hoping to read names of prominent people who may or may not be guilty of anything?
It's like when Hitler was almost assassinated in 1944 by a group of military officers and politicians. They were all executed along with thousands of their family members. And even those who had no part in the assassination attempt were also murdered. That's called guilt by association.
Is that what the anti-Trumper are looking for? Not only those who visited the island but the friends and relatives of those who went to the island are in danger of being guilty by association.

All your attempting to do is protect pedophiles. Because you like one of them as a politician.

That's some sick shit.

 

[jaypatriot]

Come on jp, whether you understand it or not, are denying that the R's have used this as a political issue to drive their MAGAt base?

I do not understand that.
How are the R's using it to drive their MAGA base? Drive them where?
Toward greater support for Trump? Or to attack him because he did not do what he said he was going to do?
You claim to understand their objective,
Keep it short and tell me.

 

[Allan]

All your attempting to do is protect pedophiles. Because you like one of them as a politician.

That's some sick shit.

Of all the people on the forum white knighting for pedophiles Jay is doing the worst job.

 

[SNOWFLAKE]

How many people on this site are drooling with excitement hoping to read names of prominent people who may or may not be guilty of anything?
It's like when Hitler was almost assassinated in 1944 by a group of military officers and politicians. They were all executed along with thousands of their family members. And even those who had no part in the assassination attempt were also murdered. That's called guilt by association.
Is that what the anti-Trumper are looking for? Not only those who visited the island but the friends and relatives of those who went to the island are in danger of being guilty by association.

OMG - if Trump OR anyone else has NOTHING to worry about, release the files!!

You have been so defensive on this issue and the reason is OBVIOUS..........

.......................... if there is even a 1% chance Trump might be named and tied to something unsavory, Trumpers will want the files kept secret

ONCE AGAIN, if there is NOTHING to hide, why on Earth has THIS become such an issue for you?
The way you have been carrying on reminds me of Shakespeare:

"The lady doth protest too much, methinks" is a famous line from Shakespeare's Hamlet. It means that someone is denying something with excessive vehemence or frequency, and this over-the-top denial suggests that they might actually be guilty of what they are denying.

 

[JohnfrmClevelan]

That never stopped him from some of his other moves against his main opponent. Surely you can do better than that.

Please. The right's imagined episodes of lawfare against trump fail to take into account his obvious guilt. If anything, Garland was way too cautious about going after trump for Jan. 6th and his election interference. Tons of people have already gone to jail for both cases.

 

[Utility Man]

The clamor for the release of the so-called Epstein files has reached a fever pitch.
My feeling is the vast majority of those demanding to see "the files" want to see how much the GOP will be damaged by the data especially since the mid-terms next year are critical for the Democrats' success at the polls.
The foremost goal of course is to hurt Trump, the duly elected president of this country.
To me, it is all about political fortunes for next year and very little to do with "protecting the innocent" whoever they are.

Good thing Billary Clinton isn't in there.

Is it a coincidence that maga, epstein and maxwell enjoy abusing others.

 

[Crakhobarbie]

Sometimes Trump Derangement Syndrome has no bounds.
If it has anything to do with Trump, anyone involved in that must also be bad.

Well, bad for empathy, inclusion, humane treatment of the poor and ethical and moral fortitude.
But, I'm not telling you anything you dont already know.
After all, youre one of them.

 

[Lord Tammerlain]

And you, as an observer of young women, can tell the difference between a teen of legal age and a teen who is under age.
I wonder how you do that?
A teen can also be an adult once she reaches 18 years of age,
SO, you're saying horny men visiting the island should know, just by looking at them, who is of legal age and who is not, right? I doubt any of the females were carrying birth certificates with them on the island.

General Age of Majority​

The age of majority is the legally defined age at which an individual gains the full legal rights and responsibilities of an adult. Across most jurisdictions, this age is 18 years. This milestone signifies a transition where individuals become accountable for their actions, including contractual obligations. Upon reaching this age, parental duties of support generally cease, and the individual gains control over their own affairs. The 26th Amendment to the U.S. Constitution, ratified in 1971, established 18 as the voting age, leading many jurisdictions to align their age of majority with this standard.

When you know Epstein is trafficking in young girls do you want to take the chance the 15 year old you were with a wink told she was 18 is actually 18.


Or more to the point when you know Epstein is trafficking young girls why go anywhere with him at all. Why hang out with a rapist and pimp?

Epsteins island only existed because it trafficked in young girls, if the girls were of legal age they wouldn't need Epstein to find them, they could find a regular service.

Every one who went to that island knew what was occurring

 

[ttwtt78640]

When you know Epstein is trafficking in young girls do you want to take the chance the 15 year old you were with a wink told she was 18 is actually 18.


Or more to the point when you know Epstein is trafficking young girls why go anywhere with him at all. Why hang out with a rapist and pimp?

Epsteins island only existed because it trafficked in young girls, if the girls were of legal age they wouldn't need Epstein to find them, they could find a regular service.

Every one who went to that island knew what was occurring

That (bolded above) assertion would be extremely hard to use as evidence in court of alleged participation in child sexual abuse.

 

[uptower]

Why didn't you include this choice?
Because R's created the issue for political benefit and now are lying about their own lies in promoting it.

This is the #1 reason. Because Trump put it out there. He made it an issue.

Epstein conspiracies are central to MAGA mythos (and Pathos); Trump ran on a vague promise of releasing the files, then lets his AG go public about it. Then all of a sudden, they just pretend they don't know a thing about it.

Trump created this Frankenstein's monster. Now the townsfolk have turned up with torches and pitchforks he goes, "what files"?

 

[Lord Tammerlain]

That (bolded above) assertion would be extremely hard to use as evidence in court of alleged participation in child sexual abuse.

I will say that some who went may not have actively taken part, but all who went were actively covering it up, a real conspiracy if you will to cover up crimes

 

[Athanasius68]

I am at a loss to understand how 'creating the Epstein issue' could benefit the GOP. Maybe you can explain it to me since you brought it up.
I do believe their goal is to make it go away because it only casts more suspicion on the president and his party.

The issue was dead and buried.
Literally with respect to Epstein.
Figuratively with respect to Maxwell.
The Trump folks resurrected it, thinking it could be fodder against the Dems.

 

[Athanasius68]

So, THAT is the reason this thread was posted. We don't know who would be in those files or what their connection to Epstein would reveal.
Just as likely some Dems and other rich folks, maybe a Royal or two would be in there. BUT........................ NONE OF THAT MATTERS..
If there is even the briefest possibility that Trump might be named or that there will be evidence of inappropriate conduct, the files NEED to stay secret.

Then his loyal supporters take the route of suggestion that the ONLY reason for exposing the files is to bring Trump down, when we ALL KNOW that if any files anywhere existed that would bring Dems down without touching a Republican, a Rightie or Trump, folks like Jay would be DEMANDING their release NOW!!

It's like they aren't even trying to hide their fealty to Trump or their blind need to defend him.

AGAIN - anyone might be in those files. Might be Dems or leftists or people other than Trump. BUT .......................... if there is even a 1% chance Trump might be named and tied to something unsavory, Trumpers will want the files kept secret and come up with distractions and deflections like...................



When in fact many of the most demanding folks wanting to see the files are hardly leftists, that many of those demanding the release of those files are MAGA faithful.

But y'all know, even a 1% chance Trump might be named in those files means some of his minions will look to blame EVERYONE ELSE for wanting to release those files because those minions don't want to know who is on there. Just in case.

And if Trump was in those files, the Biden admin would have released them long ago...

 

[ttwtt78640]

I will say that some who went may not have actively taken part, but all who went were actively covering it up, a real conspiracy if you will to cover up crimes

Again, that’s an allegation (assumption). Likely, Epstein had visitors for other purposes.

 

[Athanasius68]

Again, that’s an allegation (assumption). Likely, Epstein had visitors for other purposes.

Releasing the totality of the files could damage a lot of innocent people.

Releasing the documents, but redacting names though won't solve the political problem.

 

[ttwtt78640]

Releasing the totality of the files could damage a lot of innocent people.

Redacting names though won't solve the political problem.

That’s for sure, yet not doing so would continue the speculation that many likely guilty ‘clients’ were allowed to avoid prosecution by the ‘just us’ system.

 

[cpwill]

The clamor for the release of the so-called Epstein files has reached a fever pitch.
My feeling is the vast majority of those demanding to see "the files" want to see how much the GOP will be damaged by the data especially since the mid-terms next year are critical for the Democrats' success at the polls.
The foremost goal of course is to hurt Trump, the duly elected president of this country.

Very likely correct. For years the clamor was on the Right - for the exact same reason. They assumed it would hurt the Left.


Personally, I want them all burned.

 

[SNOWFLAKE]

And if Trump was in those files, the Biden admin would have released them long ago...

Same excuse we have heard over and over again............

BUT.....................WHATABOUT................... BIDEN?

Not one thread can ever be posted without Righties deflecting and going whatabout.

The ball is NOW in Trump's court, Biden is out of the picture, so it is NOW up to Trump to decide what needs to be done with the files.

Stop asking us to .............



Because YOU are afraid of what might come out if the files are released NOW!

 

[TamleeB]

Please. The right's imagined episodes of lawfare against trump fail to take into account his obvious guilt. If anything, Garland was way too cautious about going after trump for Jan. 6th and his election interference. Tons of people have already gone to jail for both cases.

No need to “imagine” lawfare. America has witnessed it. There is reason so many in our Country do not trust the MSM. Nor the government.

 

[Athanasius68]

Same excuse we have heard over and over again............

BUT.....................WHATABOUT................... BIDEN?

Not one thread can ever be posted without Righties deflecting and going whatabout.

The ball is NOW in Trump's court, Biden is out of the picture, so it is NOW up to Trump to decide what needs to be done with the files.

Stop asking us to .............

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Because YOU are afraid of what might come out if the files are released NOW!

Shrug.
Like has been said, if Trump was in there, Biden would have released it.
Just trying to help you guys out a bit to keep egg off your face...

Meanwhile, releasing the documents could hurt a lot of innocent people.

 

[TamleeB]

All your attempting to do is protect pedophiles. Because you like one of them as a politician.

That's some sick shit.

Provide any evidence of such. You made the claim…