Why is the uncovering of the Epstein files so important?

[What if...?]

You can besmirch the character of any elitist you wish.
Your wild suppositions of who saw what and did nothing about it holds no water.
Since you don't know who was there; who saw or did what; and did nothing to tell anyone about it means your hunger for incriminating facts mean nothing.

What “hunger for incriminating facts”?

I’m just questioning the “I rode the Lolita Express to the private island but had no idea that underage girls were on the menu” excuse. Because most would really not be called out on their silence, as that’s almost as bad as participating.

If you saw things at your church that made you suspicious that the altar boys were being dandled, knowing that the Catholic Church has a problem with that, but didn’t say anything and it turned out they were getting buggered, wouldn’t you bear some responsibility for your silence?

It really sounds like you’re practicing your dismissals in case something does come out.

 

[What if...?]

How do you know what reality is if you don't have any hard facts about who was on the island; who did what to whom; and whether there will ever be any testimony to indict anyone who traveled with Epstein?

You didn’t really care if that first guy who got sent to the gulag was really a gang member or not, did you?

Apologies in advance if you voiced any questions.

 

[phoenix2020]

So, after 500 or so posts, did @jaypatriot ever find out why Donald felt it was so important to release the Epstein files? Did he get around to contacting Donald Trump, and if so, was there a response?

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[jaypatriot]

You didn’t really care if that first guy who got sent to the gulag was really a gang member or not, did you?

Apologies in advance if you voiced any questions.

Sorry I can't feel much sympathy for someone I don't know.
But as long as you care and shed crocodile tears for some illegal alien caught inside our country, that's good enough for me. Tell me if your concerns have done any good for anyone who did not receive proper due process according to your standards.

 

[lynnwinslow]

So, after 500 or so posts, did @jaypatriot ever find out why Donald felt it was so important to release the Epstein files? Did he get around to contacting Donald Trump, and if so, was there a response?

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No, but his local MAGA club give him a gold star for his valiant efforts.

 

[phoenix2020]

No, but his local MAGA club give him a gold star for his valiant efforts.

Ah, that's good. MAGA do have to stick together and take care of each other. I'm happy to hear that his fellow MAGA are supportive of his efforts to better understand why Donald Trump felt it was so important to release the Epstein files.

 

[jaypatriot]

It's not wild speculation. The circumstantial evidence is off the charts, and few question that Trump would be capable of such an act. Is there a smoking gun? No, but there's far more evidence than 99% of the scandals that the right-wing latches onto.

I love it: "The circumstantial evidence is off the charts."

Like inferential evidence is going to put any rich elite on trial and get convicted.

That's like when Superman gets injured and bleeding in a movie (or even seems to die), you hope that somehow he gets revived and lives to fight another day.

Let me know if you find any circumstantial evidence that could be used to indict or convict anyone who went to that island.

I'll wait here while you're doing that.


Circumstantial evidence is evidence that relies on an inference to connect it to a conclusion of fact, such as a fingerprint at the scene of a crime. By contrast, direct evidence supports the truth of an assertion directly, i.e., without need for any additional evidence or inference.

 

[jaypatriot]

So, after 500 or so posts, did @jaypatriot ever find out why Donald felt it was so important to release the Epstein files? Did he get around to contacting Donald Trump, and if so, was there a response?

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Share your thoughts with President Donald J. Trump and Vice President JD Vance.

www.whitehouse.gov

No one at Mar-a-largo or the White House would take my call asking why Trump feelt that Epstein files be released and then nothing happened.
It's almost like he was side-stepping my question. How dare he!

 

[phoenix2020]

No one at Mar-a-largo or the White House would take my call asking why Trump feelt that Epstein files be released and then nothing happened.
It's almost like he was side-stepping my question. How dare he!

That's rough. You'd think they'd at least take the call of from a loyal soldier instead of treating you as if you don't exist. Then again, they've already gotten from you what they needed, and going forward you are of no functional use to them, so it makes sense that they wouldn't even entertain hearing your questions.

 

[What if...?]

Sorry I can't feel much sympathy for someone I don't know.
But as long as you care and shed crocodile tears for some illegal alien caught inside our country, that's good enough for me. Tell me if your concerns have done any good for anyone who did not receive proper due process according to your standards.

You could have saved bandwidth by just answering “no”.

 

[jaypatriot]

You could have saved bandwidth by just answering “no”.

You had to read the whole thing to get a more cogent answer than just "NO".
Good for you.

 

[jaypatriot]

That's rough. You'd think they'd at least take the call of from a loyal soldier instead of treating you as if you don't exist. Then again, they've already gotten from you what they needed, and going forward you are of no functional use to them, so it makes sense that they wouldn't even entertain hearing your questions.

Being a good soldier again in the 21st century could be detrimental to my good health.
That's why I am glad they have long forgotten about me enjoying my final years in peace.

 

[What if...?]

You had to read the whole thing to get a more cogent answer than just "NO".
Good for you.

Well, this post makes much less sense.

Is it a complement on my reading ability or something?

 

[HumblePi]

The answer is far simpler than any of the responses you gave. People are sick to death of wealthy, powerful men doing what they want, when they want, to whomever they want to do it to. People understand that the Epstein case is the largest sex scandal in history. While Americans are struggling to make ends meet, they're finding their health insurance covering less, while their premiums soar. People are struggling to find somewhere for their family to live because rents and homes to buy are out of sight for the working man.

People want to see 'right' return, and 'wrong' punished. Every American is expected to abide by the law, and when he doesn't, he's punished. This Epstein controversy would have been the end of Barack Obama's presidency. It would have been the end of George Bush's presidency. It would have been the end of Reagan's presidency. There should be ONE STANDARD! Either it's okay, or it's not okay, which means it cannot be okay for Trump. It just can't be. A man that has been convicted of 34 felony counts should have never been allowed to run for the highest office in the land. But being part of a cover-up conspiracy to hide his association with people convicted of sex trafficking, SHOULD be the line drawn for any decent person in this country.

 

[Risky Thicket]

In a way, I envy your adventures in Nam. You came out alive. And like Nelson DeMille the great writer, he had a solid foundation to write interesting books about his protagonists in Vietnam. My adventures in Thailand were minor, mainly about some of the bars in Bangkok. Never got shot at or kidnapped. Never brought anything back to the states that required medical attention.

Nelson DeMille. You embarrass me. DeMille was a straight leg grunt. A real war fighter. I was Air Force security, a defensive troop. DeMille was one hell of great story teller. Family and friends have encouraged me to write a book about my experiences only because I tell humous stories and avoid talking about the other stuff.

I am a fortunate man and I know it. I've never understood why. Because I was stupid enough to volunteer for things far outside of my AFSC (MOS) I found myself in interesting situations. At times I found myself questioning my own sanity and at other times I was just wowed. I know several guys who were AF security who were assigned to things only slightly related to their AFSC who went amazing places and could tell fascinating tales.

I had some adventures myself in Bangkok on R&R. (Supen, if you are out there. You probably have a brood of grandchildren these days.) In fact, I got a shipment to Don Muang which would have been a sweet deal, civilian clothes, clothing and housing allowance. BUT, I would have to extend in Vietnam for 5 months before the slot opened in Bangkok. I'd have done it if they would let me extend for 6 months. Then I would have gotten a free 30 day leave to anywhere in the world for extending for 6 months but nothing for extending for 5 months. I turned it.

Great books about Vietnam by phenomenal authors:

Matterhorn by Karl Marlantes, former Marine. What a book!

Policing Saigon by Loren Christensen. Christensen was an Army MP in Saigon. Our duties and experiences were fairly similar. He was stationed in Saigon and served the same time I was in-country. Parallel experiences, uncanny.

I would rather remain ignorant of all of the speculation about Epstein and his sordid island until hard evidence comes out as to who did what to whom and whether such activities were criminal or not. Until then, you can stop doing research for me.

OK

 

[ataraxia]

The clamor for the release of the so-called Epstein files has reached a fever pitch.
My feeling is the vast majority of those demanding to see "the files" want to see how much the GOP will be damaged by the data especially since the mid-terms next year are critical for the Democrats' success at the polls.
The foremost goal of course is to hurt Trump, the duly elected president of this country.
To me, it is all about political fortunes for next year and very little to do with "protecting the innocent" whoever they are.

Yeah you're right, it's no biggie. We should all go back to calling for the release of more important things.

So I hear you're not gonna believe what Trump's top people are finding on Obama's secret Kenyan birth certificate. We should really push to see those files! Whaddyasay?

 

[Lursa]

How do you know what reality is if you don't have any hard facts about who was on the island; who did what to whom; and whether there will ever be any testimony to indict anyone who traveled with Epstein?

??? Still so lost? Or still trying to avoid what I actually wrote (post 427)...which was about TACO's deterioration? When did I mention Epstein?

Keep up!

 

[mrjurrs]

Who would care if Trump walked in on adults indulging in sexual acts?
Would this be a story you would like to read about?
Is there anything illegal about doing that in your moral guide?

Man, you are uninformed.
It was adult beauty pageant participants. He was uninvited.

Do you do walk in on women in your home uninvited? I mean...you own it so according to Donnie two boobs you can.

 

[mrjurrs]

You said the GOP created the issue for political benefit. The issue was current during two Democrat presidents terms and one Republican. Trump is the one who told the DOJ to release them and not the DEMOCRATS. It’s pretty obvious that whatever is in the files will determine whether or not it’s a Democrat or Republican issue. But it’s also obvious that the Democrats had no plan to release them. Why is that?

I don't know, but if the President said to release them, why isn't the DoJ following his orders?

Hint...he didn't tell anyone to release them...even though he said he would. Why is that?

 

[Crunchtime]

I don't know, but if the President said to release them, why isn't the DoJ following his orders?

Hint...he didn't tell anyone to release them...even though he said he would. Why is that?

You’re trying to make it a GOP thing only which is typically dishonest of you. You can’t keep the bias out of your comments. Your hatred for Trump has made you illogical. Suffer on.

 

[Deuce]

The clamor for the release of the so-called Epstein files has reached a fever pitch.
My feeling is the vast majority of those demanding to see "the files" want to see how much the GOP will be damaged by the data especially since the mid-terms next year are critical for the Democrats' success at the polls.
The foremost goal of course is to hurt Trump, the duly elected president of this country.
To me, it is all about political fortunes for next year and very little to do with "protecting the innocent" whoever they are.

The fact that you chose these particular options means you want to defend pedophiles.

"I want criminals brought to justice" isn't one of the options because it didn't occur to you.

 

[jaypatriot]

The fact that you chose these particular options means you want to defend pedophiles.

"I want criminals brought to justice" isn't one of the options because it didn't occur to you.

If someone is a criminal didn't that person go through the judicial process from arrest to indictment to trial and then to conviction?

I should have written:
Because the morally righteous segment of the public wants to see elitists who raped young women on Epstein's island found guilty and thrown in prison.

 

[Deuce]

If someone is a criminal didn't that person go through the judicial process from arrest to indictment to trial and then to conviction?

I should have written:
Because the morally righteous segment of the public wants to see elitists who raped young women on Epstein's island found guilty and thrown in prison.

Yes, I want to see rapists in prison.

Which part of this upsets you?

 

[mrjurrs]

You’re trying to make it a GOP thing only which is typically dishonest of you. You can’t keep the bias out of your comments. Your hatred for Trump has made you illogical. Suffer on.

Your lack of historical perspective makes your posts laughable.

Are you seriously claiming that this was NOT a R campaign issue in 2024?

Quick question, who was that telling Epstein that a dancer was hot?

 

[Crunchtime]

Your lack of historical perspective makes your posts laughable.

Are you seriously claiming that this was NOT a R campaign issue in 2024?

Quick question, who was that telling Epstein that a dancer was hot?

And your lack of transparency is typical of your ideology. You can’t help yourself. Being dishonest is in the genes of every progressive.