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Why is the uncovering of the Epstein files so important?

Why is the uncovering of the Epstein files so important?

  • Because the innocent victims must be protected?

    Votes: 13 37.1%

  • Because the DNC needs something, anything, to use against Trump for next November?

    Votes: 10 28.6%

  • Because "the people" need to see everything regardless of who is damaged by it?

    Votes: 17 48.6%

  • Because the rich and famous who visited Epstein's island are all pedophiles who deserve punishment?

    Votes: 12 34.3%

  • Because anyone who stepped foot on Epstein's island is guilty of sexual abuse?

    Votes: 3 8.6%

  • Because Biden did nothing with those files for four years?

    Votes: 3 8.6%
  • Total voters
    35
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The clamor for the release of the so-called Epstein files has reached a fever pitch.
My feeling is the vast majority of those demanding to see "the files" want to see how much the GOP will be damaged by the data especially since the mid-terms next year are critical for the Democrats' success at the polls.
The foremost goal of course is to hurt Trump, the duly elected president of this country.
To me, it is all about political fortunes for next year and very little to do with "protecting the innocent" whoever they are.
 
mrjurrs said:
Why didn't you include this choice?
Because R's created the issue for political benefit and now are lying about their own lies in promoting it.
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I am at a loss to understand how 'creating the Epstein issue' could benefit the GOP. Maybe you can explain it to me since you brought it up.
I do believe their goal is to make it go away because it only casts more suspicion on the president and his party.
 
Epstein was a known sex trafficker.

People who have power, have access to power and are connected to Epstein should be investigated. I don't care what party they are from, where they fall on the political spectrum, etc. If Bill Clinton is investigated and it is found he needs to be charged and if found guilty...then he needs to rot in jail. Clinton is just one example. But I think you get the point that for most of us, this about justice for crimes.

And I would think that if a sitting president is being mentioned in files kept by a sex trafficker, you would want that clarified ASAP one way and the other. And let's be honest here, ok...

If this was about Obama or Biden when they were sitting presidents, you would be screaming bloody-murder if they handled this the way Trump has and you would be right to do so. So, spare us the victimhood.
 
jaypatriot said:
I am at a loss to understand how 'creating the Epstein issue' could benefit the GOP. Maybe you can explain it to me since you brought it up.
I do believe their goal is to make it go away because it only casts more suspicion on the president and his party.
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Come on jp, whether you understand it or not, are denying that the R's have used this as a political issue to drive their MAGAt base?
 
jaypatriot said:
The foremost goal of course is to hurt Trump, the duly elected president of this country.
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Agreed.
Whatever works.
Remember, with all the murder, bootlegging, prostitution rackets overseen by Al Capone, he was finally brought down by something as simple as tax evasion.

Its fortunate for the good people in this country that Donald has been such a piece of shite all his life.
Lots of nasty dirt to dredge up.
 
jaypatriot said:
Who are the named pedophiles? Do you know?
Everyone who visited Epstein's island?
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There's this investigation where a bunch of grown men had sex with underage girls and Trump is protecting it with his life and Maxwell is in prison for it (as was Epstein).

Release the files.
 
jaypatriot said:
The foremost goal of course is to hurt Trump, the duly elected president of this country.
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So, THAT ☝️ is the reason this thread was posted. We don't know who would be in those files or what their connection to Epstein would reveal.
Just as likely some Dems and other rich folks, maybe a Royal or two would be in there. BUT........................ NONE OF THAT MATTERS..
If there is even the briefest possibility that Trump might be named or that there will be evidence of inappropriate conduct, the files NEED to stay secret.

Then his loyal supporters take the route of suggestion that the ONLY reason for exposing the files is to bring Trump down, when we ALL KNOW that if any files anywhere existed that would bring Dems down without touching a Republican, a Rightie or Trump, folks like Jay would be DEMANDING their release NOW!!

It's like they aren't even trying to hide their fealty to Trump or their blind need to defend him.

AGAIN - anyone might be in those files. Might be Dems or leftists or people other than Trump. BUT .......................... if there is even a 1% chance Trump might be named and tied to something unsavory, Trumpers will want the files kept secret and come up with distractions and deflections like...................
jaypatriot said:
My feeling is the vast majority of those demanding to see "the files" want to see how much the GOP will be damaged by the data especially since the mid-terms next year are critical for the Democrats' success at the polls.
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When in fact many of the most demanding folks wanting to see the files are hardly leftists, that many of those demanding the release of those files are MAGA faithful.

But y'all know, even a 1% chance Trump might be named in those files means some of his minions will look to blame EVERYONE ELSE for wanting to release those files because those minions don't want to know who is on there. Just in case.
 
CaughtInThe said:
There's this investigation where a bunch of grown men had sex with underage girls and Trump is protecting it with his life and Maxwell is in prison for it (as was Epstein).

Release the files.
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I see, You just gotta know because the future of democracy depends on it.
Besides, it is currently the best weapon the Dems have against Trump.
So anyone who went to Epstein's island is a pedophile?
Or just a horny, rich elitist interested in cavorting with beautiful women?
How would anyone today know the difference? Birth certificates?
Signed affidavits?
 
jaypatriot said:
I see, You just gotta know because the future of democracy depends on it.
Besides, it is currently the best weapon the Dems have against Trump.
So anyone who went to Epstein's island is a pedophile?
Or just a horny, rich elitist interested in cavorting with beautiful women?
How would anyone today know the difference? Birth certificates?
Signed affidavits?
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Or you just want to protect multiple pedophiles.

Is that something you'd do in your own town?
 
Letting rich,powerful, and famous people abuse children is sick and wrong !
Forget the political fall out ! Once America gets back to the Constitution and and we ensure that ALL PEOPLE follow the same Laws, THAT IS WHAT'S SO IMPORTANT !

Setting a precedent is very important here !

Just like USAID was a unregulated way to allow CRIMINAL Politicians to launder US Tax money for DECADES, and the DEM-REP Monopoly turned a Blind eye ! That was a BAD precedent!
But Trump getting DOGE to uncover this an shut it down was a GOOD precedent for AMERICA !(even in the left don't yet understand it)

If all who willingly and knowingly abused these under age children, they all should have their day in court! And hopefully others will not repeat Epstein crimes !
 
I think it is important because it will reveal that it is a matter of wealth and power across the political spectrum instead of being limited to one party or the other.
 
jaypatriot said:
I see, You just gotta know because the future of democracy depends on it.
Besides, it is currently the best weapon the Dems have against Trump.
So anyone who went to Epstein's island is a pedophile?
Or just a horny, rich elitist interested in cavorting with beautiful women?
How would anyone today know the difference? Birth certificates?
Signed affidavits?
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Children

Teen girls,
They knew who was a teen and who wasn't.

Trump joked about it by God's sake.

Why protect pedophiles? I want the files released regardless of who is in them.

Heck I expect Bill Clinton to be in them, Prince Andrew, potentially Bill gates from rumors
 

Why is the uncovering of the Epstein files so important?​

Other. A desire to know who, among the rich and powerful, was involved with (became a ‘client’ of?) Epstein’s sex with minors ‘service’, yet avoided prosecution by the ‘just us’ system.
 
jaypatriot said:
I see, You just gotta know because the future of democracy depends on it.
Besides, it is currently the best weapon the Dems have against Trump.
So anyone who went to Epstein's island is a pedophile?
Or just a horny, rich elitist interested in cavorting with beautiful women?
How would anyone today know the difference? Birth certificates?
Signed affidavits?
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Why are you trying to protect Epstein and trump? Why do you think these high powered folks went there, for the beach? They could go to any beach on the planet, why Epstein's place?
 
jaypatriot said:
I see, You just gotta know because the future of democracy depends on it.
Besides, it is currently the best weapon the Dems have against Trump.
So anyone who went to Epstein's island is a pedophile?
Or just a horny, rich elitist interested in cavorting with beautiful women?
How would anyone today know the difference? Birth certificates?
Signed affidavits?
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