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Why I believe that autism is not caused by vaccines, but is hereditary

CLAX1911 said:
I don't think that would account for 60 times more diagnosis.

Either everyone everywhere all over the planet is autistic and that doesn't mean anything or we've got a problem.
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Yes, either autism is more common then we thought or there are recent environmental factors at play, such as new types of pollution.
 
Slartibartfast said:
Yes, either autism is more common then we thought or there are recent environmental factors at play, such as new types of pollution.
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I am certain that my father was an Aspie, too.
He exhibited all the classic signs of it.
 
Jessie C said:
Thank you for your honesty. Autism is not caused by vaccines. Never was. Only idiotic creatins believe that nonsense. (y)
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yet one of those cretins is now running HHS.
 
CLAX1911 said:
Well you'd have a point if the diagnosis weren't 60 times more than they were 35 years ago.

If it's genetic something absolutely had to have polluted our gene pool between 1989 and 2024.

I'm not so sure that it's vaccines. I think if anything it's probably more connected to water contamination that would explain the absolute striking staggering explosion.

Women who drink water contaminated with Trace amounts of lithium have a higher likelihood of giving birth to a child with autism.

There may even be a genetic component to it a predisposition if you will

What something we've been doing a lot lately that involves lithium?

Unless you can point to something in the last 25 to 35 years contaminating the gene pool I seriously doubt that this is the case.

Unless of course we're just saying things are autism that aren't really like dyslexia. I took one of those ask your doctor if you have autism tests several times and give it all manner a different answers and every time it said yeah you indicators of autism you may want to talk to your doctor.

I think it's mostly a scam to sell drugs. Complicated we've been talking about these evil evil billionaires in our country for a few months now but they worst of the worst the ones who cannot possibly hate enough are the ones in charge of the pharmaceutical industry.
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DO you know the difference between correlation and causation?
 
WisconIndependent said:
DO you know the difference between correlation and causation?
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Correlation is a necessary but not sufficient condition for causation. But until we know and understand the true process and mechanism involved that all we have. Also one must be careful and cautious when we think we've eliminated a potential cause (i.e. vaccines) because that could jut be one of a number of contributing causes that all work together. You cannot test for what you do not know.
 
WisconIndependent said:
DO you know the difference between correlation and causation?
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Yes correlation is two variables that increase with the other or one increases where the other decreases and we don't know why. Causation is one variable is dependent on the other.

If you knew what caused autism why don't you say something why don't you publish your works you know how many people suffer with this?
 
If an autistic person gets vaccinated, do they get double-autism?
 
WisconIndependent said:
There is a belief that autism is caused by vaccines and although science tells us it is not so, many people still believe. The reason I am pretty sure it is not caused by vaccines is my own family. I come from a large family and several of my siblings have dyslexia including myself which some consider a form of autism. Them all of my brothers have a least one child with autism, most mild but some severe. One of my siblings children have had four children and the first had severe autism. The parents believed that it had been caused by the vaccines, so with their second and third children, they did not have them vaccinated and yet both had some level of autism. With the last and fourth child, they went back to vaccines and yet, this child shows no level of autism. Some of the family have decided not to have children fearing to have children with autism after seeing the results of other family members. I know it is only my family, but it certainly points to autism being caused by heredity.
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Autism and dyslexia are separate and distinct disorders.
 
WisconIndependent said:
There is a belief that autism is caused by vaccines and although science tells us it is not so, many people still believe. The reason I am pretty sure it is not caused by vaccines is my own family.
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Well...

We definitely know it isn't vaccines. That's been proven over and over.

To the best of my knowledge, it's not clear at all that it is hereditary, and certainly not primarily hereditary. E.g. it's entirely plausible that, say, 5% of cases are genetic, 50% of cases are environmental, and 45% are idiopathic (i.e. no discernible cause). Your family's handful of cases could easily fall in that 5% -- or really be part of the 45%.

Sorry, anecdotes about one family simply isn't proof. E.g. it's not clear at all if the root cause in your family is hereditary or environmental, as presumably all those brothers grew up in the same household, and probably have similar lifestyles, diets etc.

Also sorry, but dyslexia is not a form of autism.
 
Who the **** cares what you think? Why do you leftists think that what you think is important. Its the "I'm the main character" syndrome. There must be a diagnosis for that.
 
Pyrite said:
You've not proved that vaccines "harm people" in any significant numbers.

And, yes, it does look as if you're pro-polio. Of course, if you believe the polio vaccine should be mandated (as it is now in states not Florida), say so.
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The Autism in the US has gone up immensely, but not the same in the Amish communities ! That is a point of interest and possible proof !
I would like honest people to look in to this and not Big Pharma and lying Liberal DEM's !
They have ALREADY LIED TO US about Covid and their Covid policies !

So in a nut shell if the Amish DO NOT have they same % increase in Autism as the Kid's in the US Public School system I would be VERY INCLINED to try to find out why !

Go look in to Vaccine Aluminum & Mercury and what it does! the End result is Americans are FAR SICKER than hidden people of the Amazon... Or the Amish....

Why would you support or trust people how have BLATANTLY LIED TO YOU befroe about medical issues ???.....

RFK is not stopping people from doing what was done it the passed, just not FORCING IT on people !.....
Pyrite said:
That aside, are you of the opinion that autism is caused by vaccines? Yes or no......
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I am of the opinion that Autism has increased tremendously in the last 20- 25 years , so it seems that it is due to something we are doing and over looking !

Also it seems to be FAR MORE prevalent in groups that follow the Status Quo's guidelines and not as much for groups that
distrust and DON'T Follow Big Pharma and Big Governments guidelines !!!!.. i.e . the Amish....
 
WisconIndependent said:
Whose facts. Kenedy's, really?
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Not RFK's !
Just the FACTS !!!!.......
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Why don't the Amish follow the same Trend as the people who follow the Governments guideline ?.....

Why do Vaccines ONLY use age for dosage not size & weight ?

Why do you trust the people who get FILTHY Rich off of having Government FORCE & and pay for Vaccines ?
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NoMoreDems-Reps said:
Not RFK's !
Just the FACTS !!!!.......
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Why don't the Amish follow the same Trend as the people who follow the Governments guideline ?.....

Why do Vaccines ONLY use age for dosage not size & weight ?

Why do you trust the people who get FILTHY Rich off of having Government FORCE & and pay for Vaccines ?
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The Amish typically don't use modern mental health services, so they wouldn't generally be equipped to know if someone is autistic or not. Likely the community is under-diagnosed for a variety of things.
 
Slartibartfast said:
The Amish typically don't use modern mental health services, so they wouldn't generally be equipped to know if someone is autistic or not. Likely the community is under-diagnosed for a variety of things.
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They do get Government assistance and do from time to time go see Dr's ! So what you want to be true IS NOT TRUE !....
Again these Studies were by Dr's/medical people.
 
NoMoreDems-Reps said:
They do get Government assistance and do from time to time go see Dr's ! So what you want to be true IS NOT TRUE !....
Again these Studies were by Dr's/medical people.
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There are any number of recent articles showing that medical services are adapting to Amish cultural norms but medical services penetration is still ongoing.
 
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