LMAO
OK...it's just that you said it as a matter of fact. Just like TurtleDude just did when he said "
removing guns forcefully would cause massive death and destruction. Period"
He sounds like he's convinced it's a fact.
Leaving the likes of Alex Jones behind ... whenever guns have been made illegal, citizens have (generally) surrendered them.
...the LV shooter was also a pilot. He could've inflict the same amount of carnage if not more if he flew the plane into the crowd
I'd say highly unlikely
The UK has pilots too you know.
Paddock could have rented a truck and driven into a crowd...but in Europe this has only been done by terrorists.
Or he could have done what Timothy McVeigh did in OK City and set off a bomb. Again unlikely
You don't get mass killings in the UK (terrorism aside) because they're generally done with guns and you can't get guns in the UK
...a gun ban now is logistically impossible. We have enough problem getting drugs off the streets. How much more difficult would it be to ban more firearms than Americans?
Drugs are not the same as guns. You need factories to make guns. Ban guns and impose heavy penalties for anyone caught owning an illegal firearm.
The majority of guns will be simply handed in
People will inform on those that don't
Cut of supply of guns and ammunition
Year by year you will reduce the number of guns in private ownership & they won't be replaced by a flood of guns coming from Mexico or Canada. You won't get "gun mules" or illegal "gun stills"
(when arguing with right wing Americans about the difficulty of imposing their political will in the middle East or places like Afghanistan, the response is usually "The USA is the most powerful country in history, we can do whatever we want". But when it comes to gun control the USA is so weak)
...the guns used in the Paris Attack were illegal. We are not the UK. We have an entirely different culture and far more firearms
Terrorists will get guns when they have political support overseas. (The IRA never had problems getting Armalites despite them being illegal in the UK)
We're talking disturbed individuals though...and they can get guns easily in the USA
British gun culture has indeed changed, so pass similar laws & make US gun culture resemble that of the UK
I don't get the idea that US society is beyond salvation.
London UK is more violent that US cities but doesn't have mass shootings
The USA has such a huge gun problem, because it is saturated with guns.
...Japan has a higher suicide rate than we do and they virtually ban guns
Since we do not have any way of knowing what Japan's suicide rate would be if it had US levels of gun ownership, you can't make any point
...because of the shear amount of firearms we currently have....
Then take the guns away. Ban them
How can you argue that removing the guns won't reduce gun deaths ?
It seems you've surrendered the moral position (it's our right to have guns) to a practical one (you can't get the guns anyway)
So hypothetically, if all the guns in the USA were surrendered or seized, what effect would that have on gun deaths ?
...that's not true, first of all. Mexico bans lots of firearms....
Perhaps I wasn't clear, I was referring to developed countries in the Western world. I'm not sure Mexico qualifies as it resembles anarchy at times.
Also with the USA on the Northern border, guns can be had very easily despite any ban
This would not work in reverse like it does for drugs
...if you take away factory made rounds, homemade rounds will dramatically rise....
Rise a little bit perhaps. Do you even know how many home made rounds of ammo are made per year in the USA? If not how can you make any claims?
...we ban drugs yet somehow people are still getting them, even in prison....
As stated, this is because there is a flood of drugs coming into the USA from Mexico and South America. Are you suggesting that Mexican and Colombian drug cartels would start making guns ? I don't think so
...because the demand is not there....
So the vast majority of people rely on factory made ammunition then ?
As I said the amount of home made ammo is MINUSCULE to the 12 billion rounds of factory sold ammo per year
...we are already experiencing a decline in mass shootings.
No, they're actually on the increase
The US Congress defines a mass shooting as an incident where 4 or more people are shot (not necessarily killed) apart from the shooter.
The figure I saw was 345 mass shootings in 2017 alone.
