"And let me give you one example. Everybody thought Hillary Clinton was unbeatable, right? But we put together a Benghazi special committee, a select committee. What are her numbers today? Her numbers are dropping.
Turnabout is fair play.
They might not like it, they might bitch that there's some special difference for when they do it, but it won't stop them being held to their own standards.
Turnabout is fair play.
They might not like it, they might bitch that there's some special difference for when they do it, but it won't stop them being held to their own standards.
Turnabout is fair play.
They might not like it, they might bitch that there's some special difference for when they do it, but it won't stop them being held to their own standards.
So you admit what you're doing, now, with Trump is wrong just that two wrongs make a (W)right???
I'd think you'd want to have congress reexamine the special counsel process because someone on the GOP side is going to attempt to seek revenge for what is happening to Trump.
There's much more which needs investigating with Trump than there was with Hillary.
This isn't "two wrongs make a right". This is "If the right dares to complain about legit oversight of Trump, then remind them of how much they spent investigating Hillary, and how they continued investigating Hillary even during Trump's first two years in office."
Nuance could be your friend if you would give it a chance.
I see no evidence there is so much more to investigate Trump than Hillary. BTW, what should Trump be investigated for, specifically? At least, with Hillary, there was something specifically being investigated with her server scandal. I agree, Benghazi was more like the current Trump investigation where it's 'Let's view all aspects of someone's life and determine the crime post fact.'
Republican faithful are going to believe they are victims no matter what, so Democrats may as well just do whatever the right thing is, even if it sends them into a meltdown.To reiterate Dems should NOT pursue false charges like Republicans do because as a poster in this thread had already shown: they are itching to cry foul play. They are going to sob tears whether or not any foul play takes place, so Dems shouldn't validate their cries by participating in political hit jobs. Even if that's what the Republicans do.
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Republicans already have sought revenge for years, hounding the Clinton's because they were political players that were capable of winningSo you admit what you're doing, now, with Trump is wrong just that two wrongs make a (W)right???
I'd think you'd want to have congress reexamine the special counsel process because someone on the GOP side is going to attempt to seek revenge for what is happening to Trump.
Republican faithful are going to believe they are victims no matter what, so Democrats may as well just do whatever the right thing is, even if it sends them into a meltdown.
You know what? I'm not sure what needs to be investigated with Trump, per se. If he hadn't made such a big scene about the Russian investigation, there wouldn't have been a special counsel to begin with. The Senate and House would each have published their report saying Russia was naughty and we needed to pay close attention to cyber-meddling in the future, and that would have been the end of it.
But Trump just couldn't shut up and he keeps acting like someone who's trying to distract people while he finishes shredding documents. There was obviously much to investigate with corruption in his businesses, foundation, associates, attempts to squash stories which might have hurt his election prospects, plus Russian connections not just to people in his campaign but in his own business which he lied about and said didn't exist.
Okay, I started this post ready to say, "maybe not so much to investigate with Trump, maybe just with his associates", and then all that other stuff just spilled out as an afterthought. So, um, yeah, there are things to investigate.
The edge of that rug might not have been lifted up to expose so much dirt if Trump had just let Congress do their perfunctory investigations and give the standard report, but he couldn't stop talking, and he couldn't stop acting like dictators were the good guys and our intelligence agencies and committees were the bad guys, and so now people are looking under that rug.
Republicans already have sought revenge for years, hounding the Clinton's because they were political players that were capable of winning
To reiterate Dems should NOT pursue false charges like Republicans do because as a poster in this thread had already shown: they are itching to cry foul play. They are going to sob tears whether or not any foul play takes place, so Dems shouldn't validate their cries by participating in political hit jobs. Even if that's what the Republicans do.
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https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-...t-what-kevin-mccarthy-said-about-hillary-cli/
Kevin McCarthy in 2015:
My my my, who does politically motivated witch hunts again?
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I used to agree with that but after both the Benghazi fiasco and now the right backing trump...the gloves are off.
I'd favor left wing financed lawsuits against trump just as the right did to B. Clinton.
I'd favor getting people to wear wires to incriminate whoever they can...just like the right did to B. Clinton.
($60 million for 6 years for 1 minor plea)
I'd favor articles of impeachment based on disgust, lies and a general dislike...just as was done to Andrew Johnson.
Mebe Trump made such a big scene about the Russian investigation because there isn't any collusion between Russia and the Trump campaign and the pretext to the investigation seems to be a made up hoax by Hillary Clinton campaign operatives?
Mebe Trump made such a big scene about the Russian investigation because there isn't any collusion between Russia and the Trump campaign and the pretext to the investigation seems to be a made up hoax by Hillary Clinton campaign operatives?
Mebe Trump made such a big scene about the Russian investigation because there isn't any collusion between Russia and the Trump campaign and the pretext to the investigation seems to be a made up hoax by Hillary Clinton campaign operatives?
Maybe you should consider reality instead of fantasy scenarios pulled out of thin air.
To reiterate Dems should NOT pursue false charges like Republicans do because as a poster in this thread had already shown: they are itching to cry foul play. They are going to sob tears whether or not any foul play takes place, so Dems shouldn't validate their cries by participating in political hit jobs. Even if that's what the Republicans do.
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I see no evidence there is so much more to investigate Trump than Hillary.
BTW, what should Trump be investigated for, specifically? At least, with Hillary, there was something specifically being investigated with her server scandal. I agree, Benghazi was more like the current Trump investigation where it's 'Let's view all aspects of someone's life and determine the crime post fact.'
It's a lie since BO stated repeatedly he was on top of the situation during the tragedy in Benghazi? Maybe he 'meant' to say: after the tragedy in Benghazi, he was on top of the situation? Was that even true?
Benghazi. The Susan Rice coverup? Duh?
I'd just graduated high school when President Dick Nixon resigned due to the Watergate fallout. It took investigators 6 years to find the truth about Watergate. There were very few investigations and hardly none were backed by the US government. It was only when the US government and the US way of life was threatened did investigations actually proceed. Yes, I'm pointing out an analogy of the Watergate investigations and the Benghazi investigations.
Do you want to vote for a president like Clinton who has already supported a lack of support and lack of information for Benghazi investigations like the US government's failure in the Watergate investigations?
TBF, I think Whitewater netted more than 1 plea.
I am open to correction but I went through it all and have searched it many times.
3 indictments, 2 convictions and 2 sent to jail.
https://www.dailykos.com/stories/20...elony-arrests-and-convictions-as-of-9-17-2018
The Clintons were never charged with any crime. Fifteen other people were convicted of more than 40 crimes, including Jim Guy Tucker, who resigned from office.[44]
Jim Guy Tucker: Governor of Arkansas at the time, resigned (fraud, 3 counts)
John Haley: attorney for Jim Guy Tucker (tax evasion)
William J. Marks, Sr.: Jim Guy Tucker's business partner (conspiracy)
Stephen Smith: former Governor Clinton aide (conspiracy to misapply funds). Bill Clinton pardoned.
Webster Hubbell: Clinton political supporter; U.S. Associate Attorney General; Rose Law Firm partner (embezzlement, fraud)
Jim McDougal: banker, Clinton political supporter: (18 felonies, varied)
Susan McDougal: Clinton political supporter (multiple frauds). Bill Clinton pardoned.
David Hale: banker, self-proclaimed Clinton political supporter: (conspiracy, fraud)
Neal Ainley: Perry County Bank president (embezzled bank funds for Clinton campaign)
Chris Wade: Whitewater real estate broker (multiple loan fraud). Bill Clinton pardoned.
Larry Kuca: Madison real estate agent (multiple loan fraud)
Robert W. Palmer: Madison appraiser (conspiracy). Bill Clinton pardoned.
John Latham: Madison Bank CEO (bank fraud)
Eugene Fitzhugh: Whitewater defendant (multiple bribery)
Charles Matthews: Whitewater defendant (bribery)
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