Why does Trump lie?

[Dans La Lune]

Why does Trump lie?

 

[ocean515]

Why does Trump lie?

Because it's great sport to trigger Progressive snowflakes.

 

[rocket88]

Because it's great sport to trigger Progressive snowflakes.

Maybe when Obama lied it was to trigger regressive snowflakes

 

[Dans La Lune]

Because it's great sport to trigger Progressive snowflakes.

Do you believe his lies?

 

[ocean515]

Maybe when Obama lied it was to trigger regressive snowflakes

Could be.

But today, it's so easy to expose and trigger simple minded Progressives, it's clear it's done on purpose.

 

[ocean515]

Do you believe this lies?

Do I believe your lies? Of course not. I don't mind reading them, as it just proves what is already known about Progressives.

 

[Dans La Lune]

Do I believe your lies? Of course not. I don't mind reading them, as it just proves what is already known about Progressives.

What does it prove about progressives, and how can you distinguish when he lies from when he's telling the truth?

 

[OrphanSlug]

Terrible and hyper-partisan poll is terrible and hyper-partisan.

Politicians all lie because controlling perception is more important than addressing truth.

 

[ocean515]

What does it prove about progressives, and how can you distinguish when he lies from when he's telling the truth?

It proves they lie, and they are easily triggered.

As to distinguishing, first you have to understand what a lie is.

It would seem this element is missing from the indoctrination Progressives are required to embrace.

 

[TheParser]

All elected officials lie.

The other presidents (no names, of course) were just smoother than President Trump when they told their lies.

 

[Dans La Lune]

All elected officials lie.

The other presidents (no names, of course) were just smoother than President Trump when they told their lies.

Would you say ~10,000 is equal to ~12?

 

[Lovebug]

The question should be "why do politicians lie".

 

[ALiberalModerate]

Why does Trump lie?

A coping mechanism due to low self esteem, feelings of inadequacy, an incredibly fragile ego, and feelings of inferiority - all hallmarks of his extreme narcissism. I would suspect those qualities are what his more ardent supporters identify with the most.

That combined with his total lack of conscience and empathy - it's not like he ever feels bad for lying - are why he is such a pathological liar.

Think about living your first 70 years as Donald Trump. The only thing you have going for you is the fact that your father had money and gave you hundreds of millions, and thus you have a lot of money now. Your extreme narcissism and lack of conscience left you without the ability to feel normal human emotions, or for that matter to even emulate them, thus by your own admission you did not even participate in the raising of your own kids. You are a joke to your peers in the business world, and women have never been physically or emotionally attracted to you, indeed every relationship with a woman you ever had was solely due to your money. You wake up every morning next to a wife that would not be there if it were not for the fact she thought she would outlive you by decades.

If Trump were not such an utterly despicable human being, he would be deserving of everyone's pity.

 

[ALiberalModerate]

The question should be "why do politicians lie".

To compare a man that lies as much as Trump does to decent men like Obama, Bush, Bush Sr, Reagan, and Carter is shameful.

 

[Lovebug]

To compare a man that lies as much as Trump does to decent men like Obama, Bush, Bush Sr, Reagan, and Carter is shameful.

That is fine, but they all lie and manipulate. I notice you didn't mention Clinton, B or H.
Have a wonderful day

 

[ALiberalModerate]

That is fine, but they all lie and manipulate. I notice you didn't mention Clinton, B or H.
Have a wonderful day

Your rationalizing, and its shameful. You want to support an utterly despicable human being like Donald Trump because you agree with what he is doing, then fine, but own it. I did not include Bill Clinton because I don't know that Bill Clinton is a decent person. I did not include Hillary because I was listing off presidents.

 

[RabidAlpaca]

Because it's great sport to trigger Progressive snowflakes.

At least you admit he lies. I'd call that progress.

 

[Slavister]

Politicians all lie...

All elected officials lie.

The question should be "why do politicians lie".

Perhaps the poll should have been rephrased 'Why does Trump lie 100+ times more than any other politician?'

Would that make it better for you?

 

[ataraxia]

All elected officials lie.

The other presidents (no names, of course) were just smoother than President Trump when they told their lies.

Are there degrees of lying?

Is for example, "lying" that "if you like your doctor, you can keep doctor", with the intention of trying to lower the uninsured rate in the country to its lowest ever, the same thing as lying about the unanimous consensus of every single scientific organization on the entire planet and endangering the future of our children and grandchildrenk, with the intention of trying to advance the pocketbooks of a few fossil fuel company CEOs?

 

[ataraxia]

To compare a man that lies as much as Trump does to decent men like Obama, Bush, Bush Sr, Reagan, and Carter is shameful.

I know. It's like comparing a serial axe murderer to someone who accidentally spilled a drink on your lap by saying they are both bad actions.

 

[Captain Adverse]

Would you say ~10,000 is equal to ~12?

To compare a man that lies as much as Trump does to decent men like Obama, Bush, Bush Sr, Reagan, and Carter is shameful.

:roll:

How would you know how many lies any of those prior President's have actually said/done?

The Trump count exists because of two reasons:

1. Trump is more publicly outspoken and thus more easily accessible than any prior President, and

2. the MSM has made an effort to count anything and everything that they want the public to consider a "lie."

Most of his "lies" would be considered exaggerations, bombast, puffery, braggadocio, and simple mistakes of information/knowledge in any other person, President or no.

That "Over 10,000 lies and counting" meme has been addressed many times before on those very basis.

Moreover, the main reason the MSM has access to such a "count" is that this President, unlike all prior President's, has been more publicly accessible and responsive via news and other media (Twitter, etc.). Thus it is easier for the MSM to gather and project their biased reporting of such lies.

One would wish all President's were so open and accessible to public scrutiny. :coffeepap:

 

[OrphanSlug]

Perhaps the poll should have been rephrased 'Why does Trump lie 100+ times more than any other politician?'

Would that make it better for you?

And now we are splitting hairs and applying situational ethics just because Trump has taken things to a new level

The reality is politicians speak to their audience in a manner that audience wants to hear that message, either through outright lies down to omission of facts and that means controlling perception. No matter the degree of controlling the message it ends up that truth rarely has anything to do with it.

 

[ataraxia]

:roll:

How would you know how many lies any of those prior President's have actually said/done?

The Trump count exists because of two reasons:

1. Trump is more publicly outspoken and thus more easily accessible than any prior President, and

2. the MSM has made an effort to count anything and everything that they want the public to consider a "lie."

Most of his "lies" would be considered exaggerations, bombast, puffery, braggadocio, and simple mistakes of information/knowledge in any other person, President or no.

That "Over 10,000 lies and counting" meme has been addressed many times before on those very basis.

Moreover, the main reason the MSM has access to such a "count" is that this President, unlike all prior President's, has been more publicly accessible and responsive via news and other media (Twitter, etc.). Thus it is easier for the MSM to gather and project their biased reporting of such lies.

One would wish all President's were so open and accessible to public scrutiny. :coffeepap:

Well no, I don't think anyone has just made up a lie like that we weren't going to believe what his top people were finding on Obama's secret Kenyan birth certificate, or that Trump U is better than Harvard, or that Trump tower was wired by Obama, or that the unanimous consensus of every single scientific organization on the entire planet is wrong and that it's all just a Chinese hoax, or that wind turbines cause cancer, etc....

He just makes stuff up out of thin air. And people consume it ravenously without even looking at what they're eating.

I mean these lies are all so big and ridiculous and creative, with not even a pretense of trying to be careful or tactful about them, that it's really hard to find any analogue ever in American history. At least in the past politicians respected the people they were lying to by trying to make an effort at being tactful and not completely over-the-top. Trump has made a mockery of himself, and by trying to support this you have allowed him to make a complete mockery of you.

 

[ataraxia]

And now we are splitting hairs and applying situational ethics just because Trump has taken things to a new level

The reality is politicians speak to their audience in a manner that audience wants to hear that message, either through outright lies down to omission of facts and that means controlling perception. No matter the degree of controlling the message it ends up that truth rarely has anything to do with it.

His blatantly and aggressively open lies, without any pretense of even trying to be a little coy about it, and his audience's surprising eagerness to lap up this garbage so enthusiastically, is monumentally different than anything we have had in American history. The eager gullibility of of his base is so ridiculous and caricaturish that he has made a complete mockery of them in the history books. At least in the past politicians respected the people they were lying to by trying to be at least a little tactful about it and thinking they were at least a little intelligent. Trump knows he is talking to fools who will lap up and try to excuse anything he says. Sociologists and historians will be studying the danger and, at the same time, complete ridiculousness of this mass movement for decades to come, I am sure. It's a truly bizarre phenomenon.

 

[Frank Apisa]

Why does Trump lie?

IF you were doing what Trump is doing...

...would you be truthful?