Nothing quite so ironic about criticizing someone for bringing up race by bringing up race. I'd suggest it's not the "liberals" who race-bait, but rather people on both sides. Like the opening post of this thread.
By constantly bringing up race...thus the hypocrisy is not on the "liberal media", but rather the right. You cannot condemn people for bringing up race by bringing up race. That's hypocrisy.Or, the Right is just trying to point out the hypocrisy of the liberal media.
By constantly bringing up race...thus the hypocrisy is not on the "liberal media", but rather the right. You cannot condemn people for bringing up race by bringing up race. That's hypocrisy.
By constantly bringing up race...thus the hypocrisy is not on the "liberal media", but rather the right. You cannot condemn people for bringing up race by bringing up race. That's hypocrisy.
No, it's not. It's hypocritical. I see how YOU want to believe it's not hypocritical, because you identify with the "right". But bringing up race, to condemn others for bringing up race, is hypocritical. It's that simple.No, it's pointing out the hypocrisy. Not sure how you don't see that. It's pretty obvious.
Did I say that? No, I did not.So you can't comment on what someone else says without being hypocritical? Seems like that is just an excuse to shut down discussion of it.
No, it's not. It's hypocritical. I see how YOU want to believe it's not hypocritical, because you identify with the "right". But bringing up race, to condemn others for bringing up race, is hypocritical. It's that simple.
You comment when someone brings up race where race isn't involved. If you truly are against playing the "race card", then you should never bring it up, your comments should be completely reactionary.So exactly how are you suppose to have the discussion, not mention the subject?
You comment when someone brings up race where race isn't involved. If you truly are against playing the "race card", then you should never bring it up, your comments should be completely reactionary.
Take this forum for example. In the last two weeks, I've seen 3 or 4 threads where some (presumably) white person notes an incident where a black person committed a non-racially related crime against a white person and then complains the media isn't making a huge racial fuss about it. That's bringing up race where race isn't involved. And why are people doing this? Because they are upset the media made the George Zimmerman case about race where it mostly seems like it had nothing to do with race.
That's hypocrisy. If a George Zimmerman case comes along, then your job is to argue against those who inject race where it doesn't belong. But it's NOT your job to create a racial discussion where it doesn't belong. That makes you every bit the race baiter as those you criticize.
You comment when someone brings up race where race isn't involved.
That's the question the irony impaired Jo-Ann Reid at NBC asked about the killing of the Australian baseball player in Oklahoma.
But the folks at MSNBC all have black belts in finding racism where it doesn't exist:
For Chris Matthews any criticism of Obama is due to "white supremacy".
For Martin Bashir, "IRS" is the new N-word. Any criticism of the IRS is nothing more than a racist attack on Obama, according to him.
For Lawrence O'Donnell a joke about Obama playing too much golf is a racist dog whistle.
And then there's Al Sharpton.
This bunch asking why conservatives make Oklahoma about race is like pornographers asking why everything is about sex.
But it was Eric Holder who asked for a national conversation about race. Of course, what he meant by that is that all of us sit quietly while he preached to us about the usual racial grievances. He didn't want or expect anyone else to actually say anything or offer an alternative view of the issues. Alas, though, white guilt is increasingly hard to come by.
So, instead there is a lot of push back, such as over the Zimmerman trial. People are appalled by the shameless and disgusting effort to exploit that tragedy, whereby Zimmerman became a "white Hispanic" and audio tapes were edited by NBC to make Zimmerman sound racist.
It is liberals who have been cynically polarizing the country along racial lines. This strategy has worked well for them, ginning up resentments and firing up the troops. One can hardly blame right wingers for fighting fire with fire.
So when race is involved but overlooked or dismissed as irrelevant, how do you bring it up?
That's the question the irony impaired Jo-Ann Reid at NBC asked about the killing of the Australian baseball player in Oklahoma.
But the folks at MSNBC all have black belts in finding racism where it doesn't exist:
For Chris Matthews any criticism of Obama is due to "white supremacy".
For Martin Bashir, "IRS" is the new N-word. Any criticism of the IRS is nothing more than a racist attack on Obama, according to him.
For Lawrence O'Donnell a joke about Obama playing too much golf is a racist dog whistle.
And then there's Al Sharpton.
This bunch asking why conservatives make Oklahoma about race is like pornographers asking why everything is about sex.
But it was Eric Holder who asked for a national conversation about race. Of course, what he meant by that is that all of us sit quietly while he preached to us about the usual racial grievances. He didn't want or expect anyone else to actually say anything or offer an alternative view of the issues. Alas, though, white guilt is increasingly hard to come by.
So, instead there is a lot of push back, such as over the Zimmerman trial. People are appalled by the shameless and disgusting effort to exploit that tragedy, whereby Zimmerman became a "white Hispanic" and audio tapes were edited by NBC to make Zimmerman sound racist.
It is liberals who have been cynically polarizing the country along racial lines. This strategy has worked well for them, ginning up resentments and firing up the troops. One can hardly blame right wingers for fighting fire with fire.
This story is all over the media and no one is mentioning race but you! Get a grip.
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If there is evidence that one of the suspects in the Oklahoma killing has said or tweeted racist comments, that is more than they had in the Zimmerman case.
Why is this being ignored?
Do you need someone to interpret his tweet for you?
No it was perfectly clear.
Why would you ask that?
Because you asked if there was evidence
What I said was, if there is evidence, which there is, why is it being ignored.
I was not asking if it existed.
That's the question the irony impaired Jo-Ann Reid at NBC asked about the killing of the Australian baseball player in Oklahoma.
But the folks at MSNBC all have black belts in finding racism where it doesn't exist:
For Chris Matthews any criticism of Obama is due to "white supremacy".
For Martin Bashir, "IRS" is the new N-word. Any criticism of the IRS is nothing more than a racist attack on Obama, according to him.
For Lawrence O'Donnell a joke about Obama playing too much golf is a racist dog whistle.
And then there's Al Sharpton.
This bunch asking why conservatives make Oklahoma about race is like pornographers asking why everything is about sex.
But it was Eric Holder who asked for a national conversation about race. Of course, what he meant by that is that all of us sit quietly while he preached to us about the usual racial grievances. He didn't want or expect anyone else to actually say anything or offer an alternative view of the issues. Alas, though, white guilt is increasingly hard to come by.
So, instead there is a lot of push back, such as over the Zimmerman trial. People are appalled by the shameless and disgusting effort to exploit that tragedy, whereby Zimmerman became a "white Hispanic" and audio tapes were edited by NBC to make Zimmerman sound racist.
It is liberals who have been cynically polarizing the country along racial lines. This strategy has worked well for them, ginning up resentments and firing up the troops. One can hardly blame right wingers for fighting fire with fire.
I agree it's important when discussing whether the shooter is legally justified or not. I disagree it has anything to do with race.Racial difference between the shooter and the victim exists in this case exactly as it did in the Zimmerman/Martin case. However it is crystal clear that the victim, in the Chris Lane case, played absolutely not part in the justification of the shooting. That little tidbit of difference is extremely important - wouldn't you agree?
Because one sold a story and the other wouldn't.It was asserted, yet never proven, that a "white hispanic" sought to execute a black teen while in this case we have clear evidence that simply seeing a white man (any person?) jogging made him become a target. Why was it simply assumed, and required no proof at all, that race was a factor in the GZ/TM affair yet is absolutely off the table, unless 110% confirmed by a sworn confession, in the Chris Lane execution case?
If race is involved, then it's fine to discuss it matter-of-factly as part of the case. But if there is no evidence race is playing a part, bringing it up simply because you are upset another case was falsely made about race makes you every bit as bad as the people you are condemning. And even if race is a motivating factor, bringing it up ONLY so you can criticize others makes you in the wrong as well. If "conservatives" are only bringing up race to criticize the "liberal media", not because they care about race relations in America, that's every bit as disgusting as the media turning the Zimmerman case into an issue of race.So when race is involved but overlooked or dismissed as irrelevant, how do you bring it up?
Entire industries and gov't programs are designed to play on "the fact" that racism is the major factor which prevents minorities from any real (statistical) possibility of advancement through personal effort alone. Once that "perception" falls, so do these industries and programs.
Statistics such as blacks are responsible for 93% of black homicide victims, over 70% of all black births occur to unwed mothers or even that lower academic standards or goals in public education systems exist for blacks will not be plastered on the MSM evening news. Even the tiniest spark of "racism" must be tended carefully and allowed to be blown up, by the MSM, into "proof" that racism is still "pervasive" in the U.S. so policies to combat said "racism" are not only still needed but must be expanded.
If these "victims" cease to exist then so too will support for their "saviors" which just so happen to be the very liberal politicians and policies that the MSM adores.
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