Why Diversity, Equity and Inclusion Matter to National Security (1 Viewer)

[NatMorton]

Whatever. The fact is that Harvard and the military see value in DEI. Harvard still has a DEI program. Here is some info:

“Harvard community members are encouraged to always model our values of inclusion and excellence no matter where they are. Especially during difficult and uncertain times — whether locally, nationally, or internationally— let us always choose empathy and kindness, while rejecting hate and honoring the rights, differences, and dignity of others.
A community that draws on the widest possible pool of talent to unify excellence and diversity. One that fully embraces individuals from varied backgrounds, cultures, races, identities, life experiences, perspectives, beliefs, and values.“

Harvard University Office for Equity, Diversity, Inclusion, and Belonging

edib.harvard.edu

What exactly do you have against that? Sounds quite reasonable.

The racial discrimination part.

 

[watsup]

The racial discrimination part.

There’s no racist discrimination in DEI, nor can you show it to e the case. It is nothing more than a bias held by those who see minorities as “lesser”. All that DEI says is that everyone in the organization should be rested in the same manner no matter their individual traits.

 

[eohrnberger]

DEI programs can actually escalate hostility and racial tensions, new study claims; NYT accused of spiking story

Participants that read the anti-racist material developed a “hostile attribution bias” and were more likely to believe in punitive measures for offenders of so-called microaggressions even without …

nypost.com

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Study: DEI Training Could Make Racial Tensions Worse​

A new study found reading extracts by Robin DiAngelo and Ibram X. Kendi led people to perceive racism where none existed.​

https://www.inc.com/suzanne-lucas/study-dei-training-could-make-racial-tensions-worse/91024524

Further, even counter productive to the stated DEI goals:

Research: The Most Common DEI Practices Actually Undermine Diversity

While companies say they champion diversity, there are glaring disparities in diverse representation within managerial ranks. The authors examine the impact of various management practices on diverse representation in managerial roles and how often each management practice is utilized in...

hbr.org

I think it fair enough to say that DiAngelo and Kendi are just opportunistic race hustlers, and DEI in general is fundamentally flawed, being founded in racism, namely, the advantaging of some at the expense of others, strictly by people's immutable characteristics - the very definition of racism.

 

[german hick]

It takes some balls to cite your own history of being NAZIS, to try to claim AUTHORITY, to call out who is that or not.

But, if you think about it, your people being taken in by those lies in the past, in no way means that you are better at not being fooled know.


Trump's most radical policies involve sending unwelcome people HOME, and trarrifs, and his desire for PEACE in europe.


That you believe that people that look at that and cry NAZI, is not to your or their credit.

My bad, I tried to spice it with some humor but it didn´t work.

I know some Americans are quite educated about what the Nazies did. After primary sachool every german child has this topic nearly every year. And firstly how did it work? How have they manipulated the society? Because of the never again... Trumps methods taktics and agendas are quite similar. I wouldn´t say he is evil like hitler, but he triggers the same cheap triggerpoints. "make Amerika great again" alone could be written by Goebbels.

 

[Rich2018]

You're questions have been answered

Nope, you've simply dodged them

You're quite unable to distinguish between DEI and "Affirmative Action", and trying to show you do by linking to a desire for "Antiracist discrimination" - something else you're incapable of understanding

I was right when I said that you cannot:
1. Explain what any of them are
2. Explain how they work
3. Give examples of them.

I also asked you to explain how "leveling the playing field" is a bad thing. Yet another question you prefer to dodge.

 

[watsup]

DEI programs can actually escalate hostility and racial tensions, new study claims; NYT accused of spiking story

Participants that read the anti-racist material developed a “hostile attribution bias” and were more likely to believe in punitive measures for offenders of so-called microaggressions even without …

nypost.com

​

Study: DEI Training Could Make Racial Tensions Worse​

A new study found reading extracts by Robin DiAngelo and Ibram X. Kendi led people to perceive racism where none existed.​

https://www.inc.com/suzanne-lucas/study-dei-training-could-make-racial-tensions-worse/91024524

Further, even counter productive to the stated DEI goals:

Research: The Most Common DEI Practices Actually Undermine Diversity

While companies say they champion diversity, there are glaring disparities in diverse representation within managerial ranks. The authors examine the impact of various management practices on diverse representation in managerial roles and how often each management practice is utilized in...

hbr.org

I think it fair enough to say that DiAngelo and Kendi are just opportunistic race hustlers, and DEI in general is fundamentally flawed, being founded in racism, namely, the advantaging of some at the expense of others, strictly by people's immutable characteristics - the very definition of racism.

So many many lies.

 

[NatMorton]

There’s no racist discrimination in DEI, nor can you show it to e the case.

I've already done that, as you well know.

 

[watsup]

I've already done that, as you well know.

No, you have not. You simply repeat your claims as such without actually showing your homework. There is simply no way that you can show discrimination in DEI. I showed you Harvard’s DEI statment. Show the discrimination. You can’t.

 

[watsup]

The white people (males) discriminated against by it. As we have discussed repeatedly.

Are you still saying that it is only white people who are discriminated against in this country? Do you really believe that? What a true shame if you do.

Because the leadership of those organizations don't give a damn about the working class or middle class whites get ****ed by dei.

You still have not looked into DEI deep enough to make that statement. Instead of doing so, you simply rely on the same standard right wing racist-based talking points that have been around for decades.

DEI is anti-white racist discrmination. You cannot give jobs or promotions or school slots, or really any resource to ONE GROUP, at the expense of others, without it being at the expense of others.

Who says that DEI gives jobs or proportions to one group? Have you still not looked at the skin tint of the power players in this nation, or at Trump’s Cabinet of the Republican Congress committee heads?

Your pretense of not understanding the point, is not credible.

But I do understand the point. It is to imply that blacks are lessers who simply do not deserve the jobs or promotions that they are getting. Like I said, there’s a word for that.

 

[Rich2018]

I've already done that, as you well know.

Typical dodge...

 

[NatMorton]

Typical dodge...

You're lying, and we both know it.

We're done.

 

[eohrnberger]

So many many lies.

Not very convincing or compelling.
I guess you are unable to refute the citations.

 

[NatMorton]

Not very convincing or compelling.
I guess you are unable to refute the citations.

He'll simply repeat the assertions you've earlier proven false. It's very bot-like.

 

[watsup]

The racial discrimination part.

There's nothing in there about racial discrimination. Why do you keep repeating that falsehood?

 

[watsup]

You're lying, and we both know it.

We're done.

More projection. As usual.

 

[watsup]

Not very convincing or compelling.
I guess you are unable to refute the citations.

You didn't even read your "citations". Here is the conclution of the article:

"If we are going to see meaningful progress toward diverse representation, organizations need to use their limited resources on the most effective strategies, like employing Chief Diversity Officers, creating diversity task forces, and implementing formal mentoring programs.
Our findings underscore the urgency for organizations to reassess their management practices, prioritizing those that foster diverse representation and dismantling systemic barriers."

So, as you can see, the recommendation is to move beyond simply stating DEI objectives and moving to implement them in a different and serious manner.

Now for your lies:

I think it fair enough to say that DiAngelo and Kendi are just opportunistic race hustlers

Not true. They are taking a serious look at the way to suggest to organizations the best ways to implement equal opportunity for all. If anyone is a race hustler, that would be you, given how much time you spend getting all upset just because race is being discussed.

DEI in general is fundamentally flawed, being founded in racism,

This is a lie that you keep repeating.

namely, the advantaging of some at the expense of others, strictly by people's immutable characteristics -

There is no indication that DEI does that, nor have you even tried to show that it does. As such, this is just another repetitious lie.

the very definition of racism.

That's not the definition of racism. That is lie #3 of that post.

 

[NatMorton]

There's nothing in there about racial discrimination. Why do you keep repeating that falsehood?

SCOTUS agrees with me, not you.

 

[NatMorton]

Left-wing logic; Since Harvard's DEI program doesn't explicitly say they racially discriminate that must mean they don't.

 

[NatMorton]

There's nothing in there about racial discrimination. Why do you keep repeating that falsehood?

Thought I'd add that ChatGPT disagrees with you, too. On being asked "Is (or was) Harvard's admissions policies part of its overall DEI program?" the answer was:

Yes, Harvard University’s admissions policies have been influenced by its broader Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion (DEI) goals, although they aren’t explicitly framed as part of a formal DEI program.

Key Points:

1. Holistic Admissions: Harvard has long used a “holistic” admissions process, where race and ethnicity, among other factors, were considered to ensure a diverse student body. This aligns with DEI principles of fostering diversity and equitable opportunities for historically underrepresented groups.


2. Diversity as a Core Value: Harvard has publicly emphasized diversity as a central part of its educational mission. The university argues that diverse classrooms promote better learning, cross-cultural understanding, and prepare students for a globalized world—key pillars of DEI programs.


3. Legal Challenges: Harvard’s admissions policies have faced significant legal scrutiny, particularly regarding their consideration of race. For example:


• The Students for Fair Admissions v. Harvard case challenged whether Harvard’s practices discriminated against Asian American applicants.


• The Supreme Court’s 2023 decision ruled against race-conscious admissions practices, stating they violate the Equal Protection Clause. This effectively ended affirmative action at institutions like Harvard.


4. Broader DEI Efforts: Beyond admissions, Harvard runs programs and initiatives explicitly under the DEI framework, such as:


• Faculty hiring and retention strategies.

• Student support programs for historically marginalized groups.

• Curriculum changes to incorporate diverse perspectives.


While admissions policies were aligned with Harvard’s commitment to diversity, they were part of a larger institutional philosophy rather than a specific DEI “program.” Post-SCOTUS rulings, Harvard and other institutions have had to reevaluate how they pursue diversity goals within legal boundaries.


This element of Harvard's DEI strategy was found to be racially discriminatory and therefore illegal.

You're simply going to have to accept that you're wrong on this. (Though truth be told, it's amusing to watch you pretend that you are not as it's a fair display of how DEI advocates think ... and often don't.)

 

[Rogue Valley]

You're simply going to have to accept that you're wrong on this.

Were you in the military?

 

[watsup]

SCOTUS agrees with me, not you.

There is nothing in DEI, per se, about racial discrimination. You have pretty much prove that by your unwillingness to discuss the OP aaa written, but instead deflecting to affirmative action,

 

[watsup]

Left-wing logic; Since Harvard's DEI program doesn't explicitly say they racially discriminate that must mean they don't.

Right wing logic: since Harvard’s DEI program, does not explicitly say that they racially discriminate, then that must mean that they do anyway.

 

[bubbabgone]

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I hate typing stuff more than once so I'll repeat it here ...

From 2023 - "I've been saying for a long time that Left's strategy is to get people into positions of authority in politics, education, medicine, and entertainment in order to restructure society."

From 2022 - "And the shame of it is that in today's world Psychology, like other professions such as education, healthcare, media, politics , etc, are vehicles used by those who develop those theories in order to change society to conform with their view of what it would be when the control is theirs.
IOW - they are charlatans who are accepted as experts by the like-minded despite however illogical those theories are ... like men competing in women's sports."

From 2021 - " “CRT has proven an important analytic tool in the field of education, offering critical perspectives on race, and the causes, consequences and manifestations of race, racism, inequity, and the dynamics of power and privilege in schooling,” from “Foundations of Critical Race Theory in Education,” .
It's one of the resources promoted by Northam for use during discussions about race.
So unless you believe those discussions were only among faculty then, yeah, it's taught in school. "

From 2021 - "Marxism anticipates a more gradual progression.
You established victim groups ... lots of them ... and you got your people into leadership roles in media, education, politics, entertainment and they're working on getting everyone dependent on Government.
Let 'em work it from the inside. Sure it can be messy as we're seeing but you should realize by now that a lot of people still don't like stuff crammed down their throats.
They'll learn to behave and fall in line when they're all dependent if you've programmed them right."

This stuff began long ago. When the violent approach to changing society failed, the strategy changed. Some got suckered into it and have gone on to, intentionally, sucker others.
We now have them throughout society. Marxism begat CT which begat DEI (which most people call "woke" cuz it's easier) and we can identify the famous who promote DEI.
Joe Biden acknowledged that was how he chose ,la and many in his Administration and instructed it to permeate each Federal Department.

The good news is that DEI is failing since people see the folly of DEI driven facilities like grammar schools and businesses.
It's very expensive to maintain in Government.
Let's hope Elon and Vivek can flush it out.

 

[Rich2018]

You're lying, and we both know it.

We're done.

No you are....and blatantly dodging

Once again:

You're quite unable to distinguish between DEI and "Affirmative Action", and trying to show you do by linking to a desire for "Antiracist discrimination" - something else you're incapable of understanding

I was right when I said that you cannot:
1. Explain what any of them are
2. Explain how they work
3. Give examples of them.

I also asked you to explain how "leveling the playing field" is a bad thing. Yet another question you prefer to dodge.

 

[NatMorton]

Were you in the military?

No, why?