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Why did you vote democrat?

What's wrong with it? Nothing. As long as it stays in a little book read by self righteous Libertarians who use government funded roads to get to high school then get home to complain about them.

The federal government has nothing to do with roads. Besides there were roads before states even thought about paving them.

The roads were always there....

Quit using small community projects to justify a large authoritarian government.
 
The federal government has nothing to do with roads.

Hahaha, facts beg to differ:

Interstate Highway System - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

National Highway System (United States) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The National Highway System Designation Act of 1995 (Pub.L. 104-59, 109 Stat. 568) is a United States Act of Congress that was signed into law by President Bill Clinton on November 28, 1995 The legislation designated about 160,955 miles (259,032 km) of roads, including the Interstate Highway System, as the NHS.

Aside from designating the system, the act served several other purposes, including restoring $5.4 billion in funding to state highway departments, giving Congress the power to prioritize highway system projects, repealing all federal speed limit controls, and prohibiting the use of federal-aid highway funds to convert existing signs or purchase new signs with metric units.[1]
 
Bait thread? it's an honest blunt question...

Naw, it is bait thread. And to make that work there has to be more bait on the hook.
 
Yes taxes collected by the government, then used to build the interstate. It's a service of government.

Aren't interstates built from a gasoline consumption tax?

Is this one of those "You didn't build that, somebody else made that happen" responses?
 
Called private roads, if private investors build it. If they receive tax payer funds to build it, it is a public road and a service of the government.

The roads were built by the community with community funds which were appropriated via communal democracy.

That's why we pay property taxes...
 
What I would like to see when people bring up this argument are charts, graphs, articles, anything to back up the claim that the government is giving away free stuff. I would like to know specifically WHO is getting free stuff? Who, what, when, where, demographics, level of income...facts to back the claim. I have yet to see anyone present some facts regarding this free stuff. If you want to bitch about it, then do some leg work and prove to me who is getting the free stuff.

I want to see proof like this:
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from Avinash Kaushik's FB Page

Now that is an entirely different manner altogether, but I think you get my point. Put out facts or shut up.
 
Well I support the Democrats because hwy the hell would I support pretty far right wing lunacy.
 
The best candidate was on the democratic ticket.
 
Well this is flawed data. 130 hours at $8 an hour here (minimum wage in Cali) is at least $850 after social security, medicare and all the other required taking from the government. You can afford rent here for less than $850 a month.


What I would like to see when people bring up this argument are charts, graphs, articles, anything to back up the claim that the government is giving away free stuff. I would like to know specifically WHO is getting free stuff? Who, what, when, where, demographics, level of income...facts to back the claim. I have yet to see anyone present some facts regarding this free stuff. If you want to bitch about it, then do some leg work and prove to me who is getting the free stuff.

I want to see proof like this:
View attachment 67138013
from Avinash Kaushik's FB Page

Now that is an entirely different manner altogether, but I think you get my point. Put out facts or shut up.
 
What I would like to see when people bring up this argument are charts, graphs, articles, anything to back up the claim that the government is giving away free stuff. I would like to know specifically WHO is getting free stuff? Who, what, when, where, demographics, level of income...facts to back the claim. I have yet to see anyone present some facts regarding this free stuff. If you want to bitch about it, then do some leg work and prove to me who is getting the free stuff.

I want to see proof like this:
View attachment 67138013
from Avinash Kaushik's FB Page

Now that is an entirely different manner altogether, but I think you get my point. Put out facts or shut up.

I can tell you that different geographical areas have different standards of living.

Sure someone in Green Bay may make $8 an hour but their rent will be $300 a month and someone in Chicago will make $15 an hour but their rent will be $900 a month.

I've found the geographical economic differences highly fascinating.
 
Called private roads, if private investors build it. If they receive tax payer funds to build it, it is a public road and a service of the government.

If private investors build it, it is investors that put up the money to build and they own it. They do not receive tax payer funds to build anything when it's investors doing all the funding. The only thing the government does is collect tax dollars and issue contracts to private companies to build roads the people want and who the tax payer pays for.
 
I voted democrat because I trust democratic policies more than republican policies in terms of economics, social liberties, national defense and the deficit. I base this on a **** ton of research into the topics. I do not agree with every democratic position, nor with everything Obama sways he will do, but moreso than the republican platform and Romney.
 
Well this is flawed data. 130 hours at $8 an hour here (minimum wage in Cali) is at least $850 after social security, medicare and all the other required taking from the government. You can afford rent here for less than $850 a month.

You may be able to afford rent with $850, but you need utilities, food, basic necessities to survive.
 
What I would like to see when people bring up this argument are charts, graphs, articles, anything to back up the claim that the government is giving away free stuff. I would like to know specifically WHO is getting free stuff? Who, what, when, where, demographics, level of income...facts to back the claim. I have yet to see anyone present some facts regarding this free stuff. If you want to bitch about it, then do some leg work and prove to me who is getting the free stuff.

I want to see proof like this:
View attachment 67138013
from Avinash Kaushik's FB Page

Now that is an entirely different manner altogether, but I think you get my point. Put out facts or shut up.

Food Stamp Participation Doubled Among Able-Bodied Adults After Obama Suspended Work Requirement

A new report from the Congressional Research Service (CRS) confirms that food stamp participation doubled among able-bodied adults after the Obama Administration suspended the program’s work requirements.
As Heritage’s Kiki Bradley notes:
The welfare reform of 1996 requires that after three months on food stamps, recipients be engaged in some kind of work activity for at least 20 hours a week. Tucked away in the mammoth 2009 so-called “stimulus” spending bill was the suspension of this requirement for able-bodied adults with no children.
The result has been that between 2008 and 2010, the number of these able-bodied adults on food stamps doubled—from 1.9 million to 3.9 million, according to CRS. (Total participation is now at roughly 47 million, or one in seven Americans.)
 
What I would like to see when people bring up this argument are charts, graphs, articles, anything to back up the claim that the government is giving away free stuff. I would like to know specifically WHO is getting free stuff? Who, what, when, where, demographics, level of income...facts to back the claim. I have yet to see anyone present some facts regarding this free stuff. If you want to bitch about it, then do some leg work and prove to me who is getting the free stuff.

I want to see proof like this:
View attachment 67138013
from Avinash Kaushik's FB Page

Now that is an entirely different manner altogether, but I think you get my point. Put out facts or shut up.

And when was the minimum wage supposed to be able to provide you an apartment or a house?
 
Hence the problem at hand. Some funds were appropriated to the states to build PARTS of the interstate and I disagree with those appropriations, but I suppose it is what it was.

Ah, so you made a claim, were proven wrong and now want to switch the topic. And I'm supposed to believe you're capable of writing a thesis on anything? Lolz.
 
Well that may or may not be true. That wasn't what was offered. The citation I claimed was flawed said it took 130 hours in CA to pay for rent, and did not say rent, utilities, food, and other basic necessities. My small home in CA costs me $400 a month in just taxes, insurance, local utilities and electric and I'm on a solar system. I have no payment or I wouldn't be able to keep it, but I never got a government hand out to keep it either.

You may be able to afford rent with $850, but you need utilities, food, basic necessities to survive.
 
Μολὼν λαβέ;1061150266 said:
So you would attribute increased food stamp reliance to a policy that was enacted (or more accurately expired) at the very tail end at said time period? Could you think of any other events during that same time period that may have caused such an occurrence?

The result has been that between 2008 and 2010, the number of these able-bodied adults on food stamps doubled—from 1.9 million to 3.9 million, according to CRS.

This work requirement suspension expired September 30, 2010.
 
Μολὼν λαβέ;1061150210 said:
Aren't interstates built from a gasoline consumption tax?

Is this one of those "You didn't build that, somebody else made that happen" responses?

Yes they are built from...taxes. Public funds, collected by the government then the government plans, authorizes and funds the roads.
 
Well that may or may not be true. That wasn't what was offered. The citation I claimed was flawed said it took 130 hours in CA to pay for rent, and did not say rent, utilities, food, and other basic necessities. My small home in CA costs me $400 a month in just taxes, insurance, local utilities and electric and I'm on a solar system. I have no payment or I wouldn't be able to keep it, but I never got a government hand out to keep it either.


CalGun, I think the figure is based-on an average number, and not solely based-on just the area you live in, don't you think?
 
Ah, so you made a claim, were proven wrong and now want to switch the topic. And I'm supposed to believe you're capable of writing a thesis on anything? Lolz.

I was not proven wrong - the states built the roads any way you want to look at it - some of the funds for the EXPRESSWAYS to build the EXPRESSWAYS did come from the federal government, however that funding was just given to states to use on any projected they wanted via the New Deal....
 
Gina;1061150184[B said:
]Called private roads, if private investors build it[/B]. If they receive tax payer funds to build it, it is a public road and a service of the government.

If private investors build it, it is investors that put up the money to build and they own it. They do not receive tax payer funds to build anything when it's investors doing all the funding. The only thing the government does is collect tax dollars and issue contracts to private companies to build roads the people want and who the tax payer pays for.

I have no argument about private funds collected for private roads.

Yes the only thing government does is collect tax dollars to pay for public roads. The companies that build them, do not own them.

Taxes fund the government, then they spend it. The poster said they didn't want anything from the government. Roads are funded via the government.
 
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