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Why Conservatives should NOT vote for Romney. [W:348]

Since he's a 'liberal', I will guess you and other liberals will be voting for him?

If I believed he would be any better I would. Since I don't I won't vote for him or Obama.
 
You can say he will be defeated all you want Con, but this election was Obama's to lose because of his lack of leadership and he is polling near Romney. You guys are rallying behind a liberal expected HUGE change and it just isn't going to happen.

Anyone that looks at history, what a president can actually do, and what precedence has been set would realize that there is going to be no major result difference between Romney and Obama.

Yes, keep buying the media spin and ignoring the actual Obama results. Obama is close to Romney now because of the media that ignores the results. Look at history anyone that is undecided today is too stupid to vote because there is a stark contrast between ideologies. You choose to buy the media spin and ignore reality. the undecided will be voting for Romney in November
 
Not this time. in 2012 we have a real choice between ideologies. Either you want marxist collectivism (obama) or you want a business like approach to getting the economy back on track.

Thats what the 2012 election is about.

There's no difference in ideology. One is a status quo supporter seeking to expand governments oligarchy the other is a status quo supporter seeking to expand government's oligarchy.
 
Remember voting for Dole in '96? Or McCain in '08? Remember watching Clinton being sworn in for a second term and that sinking feeling of Wow, I wasted an entire afternoon going to the polls to vote for a canidate who really didnt have a snowballs chance of winning anyway. Remember thinking, why did I even waste my time?

Well, if you vote for Romney this November then most likely you will be having that same feeling come January 2013.

But that is not why you should NOT vote for Romney in November. The reason you should not vote for Mitt Romney is because he is not a Conservative. The reason you should not vote for him is because of his stance on abortion, on gun control, on health care, on gay marriage, on religion. But these are all wedge issues, you say. Sure, Romney's policies on these issues have been in line with the liberal agenda, but the big issue this year is the economy, you say.
Ok, fair enough. So why exactly do you think Romney would be good for economy??? Because he was born with a silver spoon in his mouth and has never worked one minute of manual labor in his enitre life? Because he has NO IOTA of what us working folk have to do every day? Because he has an army of nannys, maids, chauffers and assistants to clean up after him and wipe his crack every day? Or maybe it is because he wants to INCREASE government spending even MORE than what we currently have.

Look, unless you are a millionaire who was born with a silver spoon in your mouth, Romney does NOT represent you and you would be a FOOL to vote for him. It would be far better to cast your vote in a respectable manner - in a way that would let you sleep well at night and look yourself in the mirror each morning. It would be far better to vote for the person who actually reflects your vision and your values. Be that Gary Johnson or Ron Paul, or any other write-in candidate like Chris Christie or Jeb Bush or Mike Huckabee. Because if you vote for Romney, you are saying THIS is what the Republican party stands for: a flip-flopping political opportunist who hides the money he made in shiping jobs overseas and stealing our retirement funds in Swiss bank accounts and a maze of tax shelters. THAT is not what my Republican Party is about, my friends. THAT is not what our future should be. We need to vote our conscience on this one. Vote for a canidate that actually reflects our Republican-American values. That is the way to go. Or even sit this one out, for 2012 is not our year. It is not the year that we send a true representative of the Republican Party to the White House. 2016 will be that year. 2016 will see the strongest group of Republican contenders since 1976 or 1980. We must be patient. We must circle the wagons and tough this one out. We must NOT vote for a lesser of two evils or a canidate that is not a true Republican. And Mitt Romney is NOT a true Republican!

This is horse****. I imagine that liberals would LOVE for conservative people, libertarians, and other people who feel that this country is being destroyed from within itself to either not vote or to vote for a candidate with no chance of winning. After all, not voting- or voting for a third party candidate- strikes a vote from the GOP nominee's column (in this case from Romney), which is the same thing as voting FOR Obama.

Right leaning people (like me) frankly think that both of our choices suck major ass.

However, I believe an Obama reelection will result in, at minimum, the destruction of capitalism and the implementing of a socialist society which can never be undone, and at worst, the complete, utter, and intentional destruction of this country. I do NOT believe Romney is a socialist. He is just a leftist Republican from Massachussets.

He may do nothing for this country other than stop the "progress" of Obama's policies. That's more than enough for him to get my vote. .
 
Yes, but the actual results won't change and you are rallying behind a liberal that is the hilarious part. I have never seen Cons go so ga ga over a liberal like ROmney before. Cons should really be ashamed of themselves at this point.

That is wrong on all counts. I would vote for a one legged toad over obama. Pay attention, its not that Romney is wonderful, its that obama is terrible.

"lessor of two evils"? maybe, but when one is truly evil the choice is clear.
 
Yes, keep buying the media spin and ignoring the actual Obama results. Obama is close to Romney now because of the media that ignores the results. Look at history anyone that is undecided today is too stupid to vote because there is a stark contrast between ideologies. You choose to buy the media spin and ignore reality. the undecided will be voting for Romney in November

We'll see, but what are you going to do when Obama is re-elected? Are you going to run away to another country?

I buy into nothing which is why I'm not voting for either Romney or Obama. You on the otherhand as a conservative are voting for a liberal :lamo
 
This is horse****. I imagine that liberals would LOVE for conservative people, libertarians, and other people who feel that this country is being destroyed from within itself to either not vote or to vote for a candidate with no chance of winning. After all, not voting- or voting for a third party candidate- strikes a vote from the GOP nominee's column (in this case from Romney), which is the same thing as voting FOR Obama.

Right leaning people (like me) frankly think that both of our choices suck major ass.

However, I believe an Obama reelection will result in, at minimum, the destruction of capitalism and the implementing of a socialist society which can never be undone, and at worst, the complete, utter, and intentional destruction of this country. I do NOT believe Romney is a socialist. He is just a leftist Republican from Massachussets.

He may do nothing for this country other than stop the "progress" of Obama's policies. That's more than enough for him to get my vote. .

well said, and right on.
 
That is wrong on all counts. I would vote for a one legged toad over obama. Pay attention, its not that Romney is wonderful, its that obama is terrible.

"lessor of two evils"? maybe, but when one is truly evil the choice is clear.

Of course you vote that way, you suck the Koolaid too much. You are more interested in getting rid of a guy not even realizing that the actual results are going to be the same with a liberal like Romney.

Have fun, hope you won't be too embarrased voting for a liberal like Romney and (if elected) getting the same economic results.
 
We'll see, but what are you going to do when Obama is re-elected? Are you going to run away to another country?

I buy into nothing which is why I'm not voting for either Romney or Obama. You on the otherhand as a conservative are voting for a liberal :lamo

why is it so hard for you to grasp that conservatives are voting AGAINST obama? The only way to remove obama is to vote for romney.
 
Would you like to find the Romney site and read it? It's OK. I'll do it.

Smaller, Smarter, Simpler Government | Mitt Romney for President

"Send Congress a bill on Day One that cuts non-security discretionary spending by 5 percent across the board"

"Pass the House Republican Budget proposal, rolling back President Obama’s government expansion by capping non-security discretionary spending below 2008 levels"

"Repeal Obamacare — Savings: $95 Billion"

"Privatize Amtrak — Savings: $1.6 Billion"

"Align Federal Employee Compensation With The Private Sector — Savings: $47 Billion"

"Repeal The Davis-Bacon Act — Savings: $11 Billion"

There are many other items on the list.

So the big stuff, like our wars and such, that all still gets funding. No cuts to the trillions spent in the middle east being in everyone else's business. What are we cutting then? Across the board "non-security discretionary". So we're talking more scientific research, education, healthcare, infrastructure, etc. The stuff that normal people use and need. OK, so screw the People cause they suck. Obamacare hasn't really even cost us anything at this point, so you can't really claim to be making any savings. Those are just projected and thus made up numbers.

So you're proposing that we kill off more of our high tech research, cut all the stuff normal people will use, a smattering of "cuts" that claim to same a few million here or there, which in the end adds up to less than 200 billion when we have a problem at the near trillion level.

Meanwhile what will remain the same? The Corporate State will remain and be made stronger, the wars in the Middle East will at least be held constant (likely expanded), GITMO still open, Patriot Act still in effect, bigger more intrusive government into our personal and daily lives, etc. So what are you really offering that's different? Nothing. Thanks for nothing.
 
why is it so hard for you to grasp that conservatives are voting AGAINST obama? The only way to remove obama is to vote for romney.

Yes, your vote is to get rid of Obama, but the ACTUAL economic results that you hated with Obama will be no different. They're BOTH liberals, Enjoy!
 
Of course you vote that way, you suck the Koolaid too much. You are more interested in getting rid of a guy not even realizing that the actual results are going to be the same with a liberal like Romney.

Have fun, hope you won't be too embarrased voting for a liberal like Romney and (if elected) getting the same economic results.

it won't be the same. mark my words, if romney wins, the stock market will skyrocket, companies will start spending the money they are holding and unemployment will go down. If obama wins, the malaise will accelerate.
 
This is horse****. I imagine that liberals would LOVE for conservative people, libertarians, and other people who feel that this country is being destroyed from within itself to either not vote or to vote for a candidate with no chance of winning. After all, not voting- or voting for a third party candidate- strikes a vote from the GOP nominee's column (in this case from Romney), which is the same thing as voting FOR Obama.

Right leaning people (like me) frankly think that both of our choices suck major ass.

However, I believe an Obama reelection will result in, at minimum, the destruction of capitalism and the implementing of a socialist society which can never be undone, and at worst, the complete, utter, and intentional destruction of this country. I do NOT believe Romney is a socialist. He is just a leftist Republican from Massachussets.

He may do nothing for this country other than stop the "progress" of Obama's policies. That's more than enough for him to get my vote. .

Sorry, I take my responsibility to keep this Republic seriously. I won't be swayed into voting for candidates who will harm the Republic just because some of you think his harm won't be as great as the other candidates harm. The slow boat to hell still goes to hell.
 
Yes, your vote is to get rid of Obama, but the ACTUAL economic results that you hated with Obama will be no different. They're BOTH liberals, Enjoy!

one is a marxist one is a capitalist. one hates america, one loves america. the economic results will be significantly different, you, my friend are FOS
 
We'll see, but what are you going to do when Obama is re-elected? Are you going to run away to another country?

I buy into nothing which is why I'm not voting for either Romney or Obama. You on the otherhand as a conservative are voting for a liberal :lamo

You have yourself convinced that there is no difference when the reality says something entirely different. The determining factor will be the Obama results and the fact that obama and the media continue to run from those results.

If Obama is re-elected I will be fine as I live in TX a state that Obama will lose by 3 million votes. This state has it right and that is why it is growing with excellent economic results. The population, labor force, and jobs are growing here and it is getting done on basic private sector economic policies something the rest of the country could learn from.
 
Sorry, I take my responsibility to keep this Republic seriously. I won't be swayed into voting for candidates who will harm the Republic just because some of you think his harm won't be as great as the other candidates harm. The slow boat to hell still goes to hell.

that approach will reelect obama, if thats what you want, keep it up.
 
it won't be the same. mark my words, if romney wins, the stock market will skyrocket, companies will start spending the money they are holding and unemployment will go down. If obama wins, the malaise will accelerate.

And the red sea will be parted and there will be peace between Palestine and Israel, and Iran will realize the error of their ways and....

Is there anything you don't believe Romney can do? My guess is you think he can walk on water as well :lamo

Romneybots, gotta love the stupidity from them it's comic.
 
You have yourself convinced that there is no difference when the reality says something entirely different. The determining factor will be the Obama results and the fact that obama and the media continue to run from those results.

If Obama is re-elected I will be fine as I live in TX a state that Obama will lose by 3 million votes. This state has it right and that is why it is growing with excellent economic results. The population, labor force, and jobs are growing here and it is getting done on basic private sector economic policies something the rest of the country could learn from.

We in Louisiana will join you in a sesession movement if obozo gets another term.
 
And the red sea will be parted and there will be peace between Palestine and Israel, and Iran will realize the error of their ways and....

Is there anything you don't believe Romney can do? My guess is you think he can walk on water as well :lamo

Romneybots, gotta love the stupidity from them it's comic.

cute, but I neither said nor believe any of those things.
 
that approach will reelect obama, if thats what you want, keep it up.

Well since there will be relatively no difference between Obama and Romney, it doesn't matter. You want to try to use fear tactics and ignorant arguments to support Romney, but it makes little to no difference. Any functional difference between Romney and Obama are merely superficial, that's it. They'll do pretty much the same thing as I've already laid out.

So it makes no difference which one is elected. Obama or Romney, we're still on our way to hell. That's what you folk who vote only the letter seem to not grasp. The lesser of two evils is still evil.
 
Well since there will be relatively no difference between Obama and Romney, it doesn't matter. You want to try to use fear tactics and ignorant arguments to support Romney, but it makes little to no difference. Any functional difference between Romney and Obama are merely superficial, that's it. They'll do pretty much the same thing as I've already laid out.

So it makes no difference which one is elected. Obama or Romney, we're still on our way to hell. That's what you folk who vote only the letter seem to not grasp. The lesser of two evils is still evil.

One question: do you want 2 or 3 more raving libtards on the supreme court?
 
cute, but I neither said nor believe any of those things.

Well you have the world pretty much going into the next golden age with Romney, I figured those things I listed were just as probable to happen as the ones you listed :lol:
 
One question: do you want 2 or 3 more raving libtards on the supreme court?

Is that the best you can do for support of Romney? Not much support. I don't want the SCOTUS politicized, but it's been done (which kinda starts to defeat the purpose, but I guess if we don't think about it, it's not that disconcerting). The person I think is best capable of doing the job, who's platform best matches mine, who I think would make legitimate and good choices for SCOTUS candidates should it come up is Gary Johnson and that is whom I shall vote for. Only through intelligent use of voting, unconcerned with political party but rather concerned with political platform and philosophy, may we keep this Republic. Ignorance and stupidity cannot maintain a free State.
 
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