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Why Attack the 2nd Amendment?

American said:
Well you better take a refresher course, if you think "juden" is an epithet.
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He's making reference to an admitted error on my part, in another thread, completely irrelevant to this one. I was under the impression (apparently incorrectly so) that “Juden” was an epithet against Jews, used by the Nazis. The only reason that there is any mention of it in this thread is that he's now losing so badly that he is grasping at any desperate thing now to try to use an insult against me.
 
Bob Blaylock said:
He's making reference to an admitted error on my part, in another thread, completely irrelevant to this one. I was under the impression (apparently incorrectly so) that “Juden” was an epithet against Jews, used by the Nazis. The only reason that there is any mention of it in this thread is that he's now losing so badly that he is grasping at any desperate thing now to try to use an insult against me.
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Interesting, well now he can answer up to the information showing the jews were disarmed by Hitler, which he denied.
 
Thunder you are not willing to acknowledge the facts here bud.

1)Guns do not cause violence. They are simply an object. A tool. Murders have been around since the dawn of time, but our societies have become LESS violent over time. It isn't guns that are the problem.
2)Poverty is probably the number one cause of violent crime. Look at who is committing the crimes, who fills the prison systems, and what cities are considered the most dangerous in America. The most common factor among them is that they are all broke. They the poorest ones on Seaseme Street. ____ I live in a ____ing trash can BROKE.
3)So if poverty is the PROBLEM then GUN CONTROL CANNOT be the solution.
4)Historically speaking: the AVERAGE population is better off with access to the standard issue arms of the military (right now we do...an AR15 is basically the same thing...and an M9? I can get my hands on BETTER and I have). Do you even know what the storming of the Bastile was? The PEOPLE of the French Revolution had to storm a FORT to aquire ammo and powder. Do you see what I am getting at? The aquirement of arms is KEY in fighting a corrupt government.
5)While perhaps our government is filled with corruption, it cannot be defined as corrupt(YET). That being said it is important to MAINTAIN the ability of the people to defend themselves from a government.
6)There is no statistical proof of the correlation of gun control and the reduction of crime. It is a skewed statistic that proves nothing, and does not take into account important factors like police presence, funding, and visibility. Not only that, statistics like gun defense do not require the firing of a weapon in order to be useful. The simple fear of an owner possibily being armed is good enough.
7)You have ignored snowballing effects like access to things like Tasers and Pepper spray. These are banned in places that have handgun bans.


Pick your favorite bud.
 
jimbo said:
I don't understand, could you reference something or some post?
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I think that was a drive by posting, by the time I read it he was no longer on the thread
 
Thunder said:
what is your evidence that the Holocaust began with the disarming of the Jews?
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Have you read Stephen Halbrook's stuff?

Not only that, but do you understand history? Events set things in motion, but it takes many. ONE of the events that can be added into the collum of wholesale slaughter of the Jews is their deprivation of arms.

Yes I jumped the gun on my statement, but I never made the claim that it was the ONLY event that allowed the Jews to get dominated by the Nazis. As a matter of fact, numerous violations and changes and exceptions being made to the Constitution can be counted as a major step to slaughter. THAT being said...The United States Constitution has the 2nd Amendment and we should NOT simply nix because some people actually believe politicians surrounded by armed security.
 
Bob Blaylock said:
...The only reason that there is any mention of it in this thread is that he's now losing so badly that he is grasping at any desperate thing now to try to use an insult against me.
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oh, again with the irony.

I'm not trying to insult you, Bob. I'm showing the ignorance of you claims.
 
Now is a good time to talk about what the Road to Hell is paved with, because quite frankly that is why a lot of people don't understand the concepts of gun control.

I almost feel sorry for thunder. Is he the only one defending the other side? If only he was on the pro-gun side. At least the last man standing on our side has a last resort.
 
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Thunder said:
oh, again with the irony.

I'm not trying to insult you, Bob. I'm showing the ignorance of you claims.
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1) you are showing Bob your ignorance that he claims you have?

2) you are showing Bob the ignorance of your claims?
 
Thunder said:
ah, Godwin strikes again!!!!!

:lamo
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you think this is the first place where a nazi reference that was made in this thread? Or are you trying to divert yet again
 
Thunder said:
why ask someone a question if you immediately assume he has no answer?

what a waste of time.
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Didn't you just do that? You didn't even let him respond to that one......

Or MAYBE

 
Attacking the 2nd amendment is a futile and pointless endeavor. It's too late for that. You can't get toothpaste back into the tube. Too many guns are on the streets already. It is a civillian arms race in a manner of speaking.

In the perfect world, we would all be defending ourselves with words or, worst case scenerio, fisticuffs. Guns would not be known.

Regretfully, it is not a perfect world. And I have no intention on bringing a knife to a gunfight.

It's just a sad truth.
 
Captain America said:
Attacking the 2nd amendment is a futile and pointless endeavor. It's too late for that. You can't get toothpaste back into the tube. Too many guns are on the streets already. It is a civillian arms race in a manner of speaking.

In the perfect world, we would all be defending ourselves with words or, worst case scenerio, fisticuffs. Guns would not be known.

Regretfully, it is not a perfect world. And I have no intention on bringing a knife to a gunfight.

It's just a sad truth.
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And now it becomes a philosophical question...what about hunters? I guess one could say that there would be no need for guns because if you ate meat there would be no need to kill it? Or the animal would willingly die of natural causes in a manner that did not cause the meat to spoil, but left it intact enough so as to be salvagable? lol.
 
stonewall50 said:
And now it becomes a philosophical question...what about hunters? I guess one could say that there would be no need for guns because if you ate meat there would be no need to kill it? Or the animal would willingly die of natural causes in a manner that did not cause the meat to spoil, but left it intact enough so as to be salvagable? lol.
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Well, I guess you could say that if ya wanna. It's a free country. LOL!
 
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