There is physical, verifiable evidence of a train coming. If someone believed you would be abducted by aliens if you show any sign of genius intelligence is that believable, scare tactics, what?I guess it depends on how it’s presented. Imagine someone sitting on train tracks and you know (or believe) a train is coming, is it scare tactics to try to warn the people on the tracks of the train?
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But that has nothing to do with what happens potentially after death. We dont know that hell or hades or heaven or purgatory or Valhalla is real. We can't know while alive. We have no physical or objective evidence of any afterlife.Death is real...
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But I do know what the Bible tells me about death...the dead are conscious of nothing at all and hell is merely the grave...just as Paul said, in Adam all are dying (or are dead) and in Christ all will be made alive...there is no afterlife except through him...But that has nothing to do with what happens potentially after death. We dont know that hell or hades or heaven or purgatory or Valhalla is real. We can't know while alive. We have no physical or objective evidence of any afterlife.
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But I do know what the Bible tells me about death...the dead are conscious of nothing at all and hell is merely the grave...just as Paul said, in Adam all are dying (or are dead) and in Christ all will be made alive...there is no afterlife except through him...
You don't have a clue.There's nothing wrong with Islam or Judeo/Christianity. They both have two messages within them, one is of violence and one of peace. It depends on which one you want to take from them.
So, tell us then...what happens when you die if you're not actually dead?More myths.
Even if they were the most evil person on earth...a life of 70-80 years of evil punished by burning forever is not justice, in any sense of the word...A God that would create and populate a world with diverse people, then send anyone who didn't say the exact right magic words at precise moments to hell - even if that person lived their life in an Amazonian stone age tribe completely unaware of the 'right' religion - would be an evil God.
So, tell us then...what happens when you die if you're not actually dead?
So, you admit...there is truth to be found in the Bible...got it...I meant the last part. What "Paul said....."
When God is God, He can define good and evil Himself. We don't decide what is wrong and what is right without God willing so. It's just more of the arrogance of atheists to think everything in them originates from them. They can't, supposedly, even imagine that there could be something greater than themselves!A God that would create and populate a world with diverse people, then send anyone who didn't say the exact right magic words at precise moments to hell - even if that person lived their life in an Amazonian stone age tribe completely unaware of the 'right' religion - would be an evil God.
Here I thought your life circled around their beliefs (like with many others here who "don't care"...I am more bothered by religious people pretending their silly belief's have any effect on the lives of realistic people.
So you reject verses of the Bible because you don't think they're fair? But don't you think that God knows more than you?Even if they were the most evil person on earth...a life of 70-80 years of evil punished by burning forever is not justice, in any sense of the word...
There is only one Islam.Which brand of Islam specifically?
Sunni? Shia?
Something else perhaps?
Of course, the problem is not God defining what good and evil is, it is people who was a book written by man, and then proclaim it was God who wrote it, and then use their claims to control what I do. Some people use the New Testament, others use the Qur'an. Neither mean squat to my personal beliefs. IF they basically followed those beliefs for themselves, as long as it didn't impact me, I don't care. But, as soon as their actions (due to their beliefs) impact me, or they try to impose those actoins on me due to their beliefs, that is fighting words.When God is God, He can define good and evil Himself. We don't decide what is wrong and what is right without God willing so. It's just more of the arrogance of atheists to think everything in them originates from them. They can't, supposedly, even imagine that there could be something greater than themselves!
Your problem is precisely in God defining good and bad, as far as I can tell.Of course, the problem is not God defining what good and evil is, it is people who was a book written by man, and then proclaim it was God who wrote it, and then use their claims to control what I do. Some people use the New Testament, others use the Qur'an. Neither mean squat to my personal beliefs. IF they basically followed those beliefs for themselves, as long as it didn't impact me, I don't care. But, as soon as their actions (due to their beliefs) impact me, or they try to impose those actoins on me due to their beliefs, that is fighting words.
For example, I don't eat pork. I don't freak out if someone likes bacon though.
There is only one Islam.
The correct answer is "angry", but I see that most have to be dishonest and claim that they are indifferent.
The reason why: It's the same as for believers who are told that their beliefs are superstitions and fairy tales.
How many can be honest and change their answer now? Matt Dillahunty at 'the Atheist Experience' has taken on this question several times.
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edit: I should have also said that anger and annoyance are basically the same thing.
A Muslim.Yet you still didn't answer the question.
Rather than deflecting, care to try again?
Sunni? Shia? Something else perhaps?
You're already demonstrating your anger and annoyance. Work it out for yourself, considering that you're the one who already cares the most!No, anger and annoyance are not the "same thing". And the atheists who have replied are not dishonest. We really and truly don't care if someone claims that we will "suffer eternal damnation". Why should we? Not only are we not angry, we are not even "annoyed". "Hell" to us is a fantasy of the religionist. Why would we be upset about a fantasy? That makes no sense.
And I don't know and don't much care what Matt Dillahunty said. He does not speak for all atheists.
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