why are people on this website being so hostile lately

[AConcernedCitizen]

I compared only blacks and whites and the total is 14,432. Doesn't matter at all. The facts are trhat blacks commit 4 times more murders than white people.

That still is incorrect, even according to your own link. For white people your own image you posted says 5,738.

5,738*4=22,952.

For black people, the image you posted says 8,694, which is significantly less than 22,952.

And since you are only looking at arrests and police reports, rather than convictions or exonerations, all you have demonstrated is the white people are less likely to be arrested.

That isn't really making the case that you seem to imagine it does.

 

[Paradoxical]

That still is incorrect, even according to your own link. For white people your own image you posted says 5,738.

5,738*4=22,952.

For black people, the image you posted says 8,694, which is significantly less than 22,952.

And since you are only looking at arrests and police reports, rather than convictions or exonerations, all you have demonstrated is the white people are less likely to be arrested.

That isn't really making the case that you seem to imagine it does.

Ad 8,694 and 5,738

 

[AConcernedCitizen]

Ad 8,694 and 5,738

Is that how you arrived at "4 times more murders?"

You need to get some of the basics of math down before you attempt applying it to things.

 

[Paradoxical]

Is that how you arrived at "4 times more murders?"

You need to get some of the basics of math down before you attempt applying it to things.

What is it you are not understanding about per capita? Blacks are only 13% of the population.

 

[AConcernedCitizen]

What is it you are not understanding about per capita? Blacks are only 13% of the population.

I understand per capita quite well.

Your math doesn't demonstrate that "blacks commit 4 times more murders than white people" as you claimed. It also doesn't demonstrate that "blacks commit 4 times more murders per capita than white people" after you moved the goal post.

You didn't even get the number of NIBRS homicide reports from your own link right after conflating the number of NIBRS homicide reports with the total number of murders in 2022.

All you have demonstrated is that you don't know the relevant data, you don't know how to get the relevant data, you don't know how to read the data that you did get, and you don't have a clue how math works.

 

[Diving Mullah]

So ive been here many times before ive been noticing alot more hateful comments alot more than before whats changed?

Ive been attacked a couple times because in one thread this guy said i didnt understand what i was talking about
so i said i dont wanna argue i thought he was talking about murder rates but he says i dont know what a rate is.

Then the grammar nazis come out saying every word i type is wrong.

Is something different or is it just this heated political environment?

I hope we can still have a sometimes heated but passionate debate without resorting to personal attacks.

You are right;

generally, it is easier to invoke *ad hominem* arguments than to spend time researching a point and crafting a comprehensive counterpoint. At the same time, there is a well-known effect in humans called the "backfire effect," where the more data you present as a counterargument to someone's belief, the more that person will hold onto their falsely held belief.

You seldom can change someone's mind, but it is interesting to see how people defend their closely held beliefs!

Diving Mullah

 

[Paradoxical]

I understand per capita quite well.

Your math doesn't demonstrate that "blacks commit 4 times more murders than white people" as you claimed. It also doesn't demonstrate that "blacks commit 4 times more murders per capita than white people" after you moved the goal post.

You didn't even get the number of NIBRS homicide reports from your own link right after conflating the number of NIBRS homicide reports with the total number of murders in 2022.

All you have demonstrated is that you don't know the relevant data, you don't know how to get the relevant data, you don't know how to read the data that you did get, and you don't have a clue how math works.

I did. You appear to have much trouble with math and logic and I cannot help you any further. Please accept my regrets.

 

[poweRob]

I posted here years ago, when the moderstion of the board was balanced and so were the participants. Now, the moderation is tilted way to the left and so are the participants.

The entire democrat appeal lies in convincing people they are a victim and it's that guy over there that is causing it. It's demagoguery 101 as they attract the disgruntled and angry, who then respond in angry, authoritarian ways. It makes sense, then that a place that caters to authoritarian leftists and made up mostly of authoritarian leftists will be a bitter, angry place.

That's some hardcore projection there. Remind me who it is out there putting fear in people about caravans and how brown people are coming for your black jobs. Or how the lbgtq+ folk are grooming your children.