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Why are Leftists so Adamant about Killing Living Humans who have Committed No Crime?

IB daMann said:
What kind of society permits the killing of living humans who have committed no crime? Leftists, Marxists and Democrats (all flavors of the same thing) insist that it is necessary, because convenience demands it. That's just evil.
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You're shadowboxing.
 
IB daMann said:
What kind of society permits the killing of living humans who have committed no crime? Leftists, Marxists and Democrats (all flavors of the same thing) insist that it is necessary, because convenience demands it. That's just evil.
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Anti-IVF nuts are out of step with the American public.
 
IB daMann said:
What kind of society permits the killing of living humans who have committed no crime? Leftists, Marxists and Democrats (all flavors of the same thing) insist that it is necessary, because convenience demands it. That's just evil.
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It’s hard to take your polemic seriously when you failed to mention the Elites, the Swamp, the Commies, the Establishment and of course the Pukes. Look, if you’re going to take on the leftist filth, your posts need to be more robust and comprehensive. It’s important that you really lean in to some conspiracy theories, and possibly post a picture that is gory but does not violate any forum rules.

I have faith that your arguments can rise to this higher level.
 
IB daMann said:
What kind of society permits the killing of living humans who have committed no crime? Leftists, Marxists and Democrats (all flavors of the same thing) insist that it is necessary, because convenience demands it. That's just evil.
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Why shouldnt society allow it? There are no negative effects of abortion on society (since you focus on "society's interest"). If you disagree, please list some.

We allow killing humans that havent committed crimes all the time...self-defense, "pulling the plug," assisted suicide, abortion, etc.

While not all Americans agree with all of those, the majority do for all/most. Including abortion.

Why cant a pregnant woman kill her unborn?
 
phoenix2020 said:
It’s hard to take your polemic seriously when you failed to mention the Elites, the Swamp, the Commies, the Establishment and of course the Pukes. Look, if you’re going to take on the leftist filth, your posts need to be more robust and comprehensive. It’s important that you really lean in to some conspiracy theories, and possibly post a picture that is gory but does not violate any forum rules.

I have faith that your arguments can rise to this higher level.
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Needs some lawfare, God telling you to do things and of course the woke curse.
 
IB daMann said:
You're desperately EVADING. You tipped your king after only one move. You must suck at this.
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Listen up newbie.

Ask the question without requiring some level of interpretation.

Let's go back to survival of the fittest. The fittest are deciding that they don't want a child and then exercise their dominant position over the less fit.
 
IB daMann said:
What kind of society permits the killing of living humans who have committed no crime? Leftists, Marxists and Democrats (all flavors of the same thing) insist that it is necessary, because convenience demands it. That's just evil.
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Who's being killed exactly?
 
Lursa said:
Why shouldnt society allow it? There are no negative effects of abortion on society (since you focus on "society's interest"). If you disagree, please list some.

We allow killing humans that havent committed crimes all the time...self-defense, "pulling the plug," assisted suicide, abortion, etc.

While not all Americans agree with all of those, the majority do for all/most. Including abortion.

Why cant a pregnant woman kill her unborn?
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And as we've seen, severely limiting abortion access and-or banning it outright has had terrible effects on society, including (and not limited to) leaving women dealing with pregnancy compilations, and in need of an emergency abortion, stranded in parking lots, because doctors are not sure if they can legally treat them under state law without facing criminal charges.
 
Gordy327 said:
Its a human fetus. But it's not a person. "Human" is a scientific designation anyway, not a legal one.
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I concur, but that is the wording of the question.
 
mrjurrs said:
I concur, but that is the wording of the question.
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"Semantic games" are a common tactic to divert from the legal and moral aspects of the discussion. Pro-lifers esp. like to get down into the weeds on "science," which considers no legal or moral aspects and confers no value or rights on any species.
 
zincwarrior said:
Many are both Pro-Life and Pro-Choice. They are personally against abortion, but do not want the government interfering.
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That's fine but the government is interfering every day. They tax us, set our laws, overregulate everything. At least an abortion ban preserves life.
 
Integrityrespec said:
That's fine but the government is interfering every day. They tax us, set our laws, overregulate everything. At least an abortion ban preserves life.
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It may also cost the life of the mother, or the poverty of the mother.
Government extremely rarely gets so involved in a person's life, for the rest of their life, absent a felony criminal conviction.
In their view, if you don't believe in abortion, don't have one.
 
IB daMann said:
What kind of society permits the killing of living humans who have committed no crime? Leftists, Marxists and Democrats (all flavors of the same thing) insist that it is necessary, because convenience demands it. That's just evil.
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Abortion doesn't kill living humans. It ends the relation of pregnancy, and thus an embryo/fetus's use of a woman's body for nine months' continuous organ donation and blood donation and seven+ weeks' intercourse between a woman's sexual organ, a uterus, and the body parts of the embryo/fetus without the woman's consent.

Since no person in the US, not even a person's child, has the right to force any person to donate his/her bodily organs or blood even to save his/her life, it is ridiculous to claim that an embryo/fetus has that right or would have even if it were a person. If you change the law, then the government should have the right to force you to donate one of your kidneys or lungs, etc., to save the life of another, and the government should have the right to force you to donate blood, regardless of your religious beliefs or any other claimed constitutional right.

No person in the US has the right to rape or sexually assault anyone. That not only means you can't penetrate a person's sexual, anal, or oral orifice with a body part for your personal sexual gratification, but you can't keep your body part inside the person for your personal sexual gratification. Sex organs are developed by embryos in the seventh week of pregnancy, and if an embryo were a unique person and the woman didn't consent to have its sex organs in her uterus, a sex organ, it would be raping her if it had a legally competent mind. But if you make an anti-abortion law, it is your competent mind that is using the embryo/fetus to rape the woman, as you are seeking personal gratification by manipulating her sex organs.
 
Integrityrespec said:
That's fine but the government is interfering every day. They tax us, set our laws, overregulate everything. At least an abortion ban preserves life.
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There's no shortage of human 'life.' Those born into impoverished homes, or those dumped for adoption into an already huge pool of 100,000?

I believe in quality of life, not quantity...the mothers/couples and their other dependents, their commitments to others, all benefit from not having another kid, if that's their situation. That's a positive, not a negative.
 
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