Times change. It's not for the government to force some obsolete idea that certain days have to be designated family-only time. That's not for everybody, and, increasingly it's not for anybody.
Instead of resisting change due to personal prejudice, people need to respect the rights of others to require their employees to show up to work.
Nobody claimed otherwise. Now run along with your strawman.
Bull****. Plenty of people have claimed otherwise. Yourself included, at least implied so. You just haven't got the balls to take an actual stand.
My experience is the owner often has the ass manager handle holidays.
Big difference between friday and thanksgiving.
There is a huge difference between government jobs (fun to watch so many CONs point to the sacrificing government workers after spending an entire year blasting them as over paid and incompetent) and low wage service sector jobs. You really need Pizza Hut to be open?
Big difference between manning the ramparts of Freedom and a cash register so some dumb ass smuck can buy a can of corn, or pummel each other for one of three cheap TVs in stock.
Once upon a time most of us took the day off to be with family, now it is go-go commercialism.
What I am waiting for is the bracket creep, like there was in immigration. As long as the competition was for picking lettuce or mowing lawns most the middle class just shrugged- no skin off their nose. NOW as immigrants work up the skill ladder, more and more citizens sit up and squawk.
All well and good to snicker at the retail low end workers- until YOUR boss says no more holidays. :doh
They can change jobs. Dislike it from the unemployment line.
WF should fire the lot of them.
Funny you say that, since US conservatives and Republicans have been looking down (and spitting upon) the "masses" that don't pay income taxes.
Gipper used the phrase, in the first post of this thread.
None of that excludes the option by employees to protest when faced with what they regard as unfair (or unsafe) working conditions. The fact that you agree to work somewhere does not mean you surrender unilaterally to your employer on every point.
Nor is this an example of "entitlement." They don't want to work on a national holiday, and their jobs are not critical in nature. As such, they are well within their rights to coordinate in this fashion.
You also get what you're willing to fight for. If employees can get together and fight (peacefully) to get a holiday off, good on them.
I don't agree that it's strikeworthy, but they shouldn't be forced to work Thanksgiving.
Why not? That's their job. Nobody is holding a gun to their heads, they can quit and go find another job that doesn't require them to work nights, weekends and holidays.
Why not? That's their job. Nobody is holding a gun to their heads, they can quit and go find another job that doesn't require them to work nights, weekends and holidays.
I'm sure they have enough people to where everyone on payroll won't have to work. If they went down the seniority line to see who wanted to work and who didn't, that'd be fine. Some employees will want to work, since it won't be for all day, and they'll be making time and a half.
However, if you've been there 2 months and lots of other people want it off, tough crap for them.
I love that fairy tale. Enjoy your Thanksgiving.
Not always easy to get a government job, but I agree - why not think big!!
How dare people dislike something and then act to change a thing they dislike. That's messed up, man.
Hey, I don't work nights, weekends or holidays and neither does my wife. Of course, we are both educated professionals who have put in our time working our way up, unlike these people who are bottom of the barrel. It can be done, it just takes work, not just a bunch of liberal whining about how unfair things are.
How dare people dislike something and then act to change a thing they dislike. That's messed up, man.
I don't agree that it's strikeworthy, but they shouldn't be forced to work Thanksgiving.
Comparing emergency workers to retail doesn't work.
My whole point about values is, if people are fine with other people working on holidays like Christmas and Thanksgiving for the sake of convenience, then put your values where your mouth is and be willing to work too. I've a feeling people would change their tune if their own place of business sacrifices holiday for profits. I would ask them why anyone should get the day off at all?
There's a certain tinge of judgementalism in your post. That's not me - I'm the type of conservative that isn't interested in or doesn't judge you and your personal tastes or likes/dislikes. Who am I to say that someone who lives alone and can't afford or need a big turkey dinner can't enjoy him/herself and order from or go to Pizza Hut? Likewise, who am I to say someone who likes shopping on their day off shouldn't be able to go shopping if they choose? One of the main rationales for stores being open 24/7 and on holidays is because many in society these days work two or three jobs and it's hard for them to get to a store during regular store hours. Likewise, if someone forgets that can of corn and the family loves canned corn with their turkey dinner, who am I to disappoint the little ones and not let mom or dad run out and get that precious corn. Bottom line, there are 11 million people in the US looking for work and unemployed and there are at least that many who've given up trying to find work because there's just not any out there. If opening up some stores on a holiday gives more people employment, thus more money to spend, thus less government money needed to support them, and make them feel like they're contributing, who am I to say that's wrong. Finally, not once have I "snickered at the retail low end workers" - that's on you. I honor all forms of work. Isn't it funny that you're the second person who's complained about my views and supposedly been supportive of those working on holidays who's found a need to be dismissive and unkind when describing retail workers?
It's not a fairy tale, they have the right to find any job that will pay them for their skills. Sorry if you don't understand that. Enjoy your fantasy world.
What about people that don't celebrate Thanksgiving and that need to shop today?
Should every retail business be closed?
If you forgot to buy something yesterday for your Thanksgiving dinner, should all retail stores be closed? Where would you get what you need to complete your dinner?
Whole Foods Employees Strike Against Working on Thanksgiving
Don't wanna work holidays? Don't work retail or service.
F'n wage-scrubs.
people who want to work Thanksgiving should be able to. people who don't want to shouldn't be forced. i'm happy with that compromise.
people who want to work Thanksgiving should be able to. people who don't want to shouldn't be forced. i'm happy with that compromise.
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