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Who will be new Labour leader?

Andalublue

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So, the ConDems take power. Good luck to them. I give it about 2 years.

In the meantime Brown resigns. Who do you think will be the new leader? Who should it be and who do you want it to be?

Personally, I think Labour needs to return to the left with a new critique of liberal economics and new ideas for offering a socialist alternative. Who could be the figurehead for such a move? Were I still a Labour Party member (haven't been since 1998), I'd go for John Cruddas. If you're thinking Miliband, I'm thinking (Ed) Balls to that! No pod people please. That rules those two out of it.

Any thoughts? It's a big decision for them to take as the new person could be knocking on the door of No.10 before the Olympics.
 

I am sorry to say I do not know John Cruddas though I did check him out on Wiki.

With the Millibands I would prefer Ed. What is a pod person. God, you make me feel so stupid.
 
Andalublue said:
-- Personally, I think Labour needs to return to the left with a new critique of liberal economics and new ideas for offering a socialist alternative.
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Haven't Labour gone down the left before after a General Election defeat and consequently paid a heavy price?

Methinks Cruddas could be a new Michael Foot

Andalublue said:
--. If you're thinking Miliband, I'm thinking (Ed) Balls to that! --
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Interesting that you rule the New Labour elements out.
Personally I really dislike Ed Balls and would vote Miliband (pod person or not) however I still have memories of the disappointment with who and what Tony Blair turned out to be after most of the country invested so much hope in him in 1997.
 
Of course, being partisan as I am to the wereckers of the Labour Party, I'd say the best man for me would be their worst.


So, then, we'd need a ex-communist paedophile warmongering traitor who wages constant war on men, taxpayers, 'homophobics', 'Islamophobics', middle-class middle-incomers to tax us to death, before signing away the last scraps of national sovereignty to the EU without permission, then telling us patriotism is just fascism really, selling off all our assets at boot sale prices, before being robbed when caught looking for gay sex on a common and telling us it was all just a private affair.


I know that wouldn't scale it down much, but that would shave off one or two mismatches I shouldn't wonder!


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Sorry thing is that they need someone with a lot of charisma, that is essential nowadays. Then they need someone who can come over as having integrity or even better have some.

Yes, would be a good idea to have some kind of a vision and genuine ways to try and get equality of opportunity on the move again.

I don't know who the person is.

To me David Miliband just does not come over strong enough. Alistair Darling and Ed Balls would get us nowhere.

John Cruddas is possibly a possibility

BBC News - Labour leadership contest: Runners and riders

I think we do need to revive ideas of social conscience and include all areas of the community. We need to remember again we are a society.

Anyway, I will look out for him and see what he sounds like.
 
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Labour need a John Smith.
Unfortunately for them there is no one within the Labour Party who can command the respect the he was given by almost everyone.

If only Mandelson would keep his slimey hands out of the Labour party politics they may be able to find someone who is honest (well relatively) and able to have the respect of the electorate.

Cruddas is a wee bit too far to the left for my vote, wonder if he learned from from that twit Brown how not to run a Government.
 
I doubt Labour is going to go "back to the left" any time soon. The party has changed not only its composition but its means and overall ideology; there is no turning back. Labour is a party of capital.

I think that there will be a push for a new party in the near future.
 
jujuman13 said:
Labour need a John Smith.
Unfortunately for them there is no one within the Labour Party who can command the respect the he was given by almost everyone --
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Agree, John Smith brought together both sides of the Labour Party. The dark horse seems to be David Milliband's younger brother Ed - however all he does is bridge the Blairite / Brownite wings which are on the right of the party.


There are always pushes for new versions - Arthur Scargill tried as have others. We also have the Socialist Worker's party mainly in England and Scotland has many versions of the SWP - usually numbering very few members. The Respect Party took more left leaning members / voters away mainly in London.
 
Yes but I was talking about an actual significant focus. The push for a new party will become a big discussion, and not just be confined to the socialist parties.
 
Khayembii Communique said:
Yes but I was talking about an actual significant focus. The push for a new party will become a big discussion, and not just be confined to the socialist parties.
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Discussion with who?

Paul
 
I wanted Alan Johnson but he's ruled himself out of the race. Damn!!!!

[ame=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alan_Johnson]Alan Johnson - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[/ame]
 

That's a bit off topic but I've seen that the BNP has been severly defeated! Good news!
 
Give me mrs Clinton,y not she is the boss of the uk anyway god bless her.

mikeey
 
"It's all about young", says Alan Johnson in his backing for Milliband.

Why are we all so obsessed with how old we are? LIZ JONES MOANS | Mail Online



Milly's off on a revelatory mystery tour as he tries to discover why his bunch of odious, nation-wrecking arrogant traitorous creeps are so unattractive to the punters.

David Miliband tours Britain to discover where Labour failed | Mail Online



(And as his government helped ram the population up to a breathtaking 61 MILLION, he'll have a whole lot of waffling to do and complaints to hear:

61million now live in Britain: Migrant boom fuels 3m rise since 1997 | Mail Online

No wonder there are so many different mutually alien communities in need of 'cohesion'! Jesus!)



The man who helped immerse Britain more fully into the unwanted top tier of EU autarky without permission says he'll rebuild trust in the Reds again.

David Miliband declares himself as Labour leadership contest candidate | Mail Online



Youth lacks the wisdom and experience of the older troopers in keeping a steady hand on the tiller. But because we're talking Labour, I suppose they've got a point in wanting to leave behind the old dyed-in-the-wool failure merchants who did so much to destroy Britain since the 1960s.



Milly: 'I'll lead Labour to rebuild itself as the great reforming champion of social and economic change'.

IT WAS THAT SH*T WHICH TURNED BRITAIN INTO SUCH A POLITICALLY-CORRECT, WAGE-SLAVING, HERITAGE-FREE SCRAPHEAP IN THE FIRST PLACE!
 
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Republic_Of_Public said:
"It's all about young"--
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You had a really good angle there but as usual went off on one. Shame really as the age of the leaders across all the parties is important - all the parties seem to have chosen leaders to reflect vigour and energy at the expense of other attributes that are important.
 
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