Who still thinks Trump won?

[TU Curmudgeon]

Thanks. Not sure why the links didn't work.

Probably operator error, and not really used to using iphone for forum posting.

Glad to have been of assistance.

 

[TU Curmudgeon]

How about some big-time gerrymandering?
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If such an "electoral district" map were to be proposed in Canada there would be two very loud things happening:

1. laughter at the stupidity of the map;
   
   
   and
   
   
2. calls for the IMMEDIATE dismissal of the people who drew up the map.

The slamming of the office doors as the people who drew up the map left on their way to the unemployment office would be quieter but would follow shortly.

 

[American]

Big time fraud in the election of Biden, but because the GOP picked up House seats and did better than expected in the Senate, of course there is no fraud there... So the Dems were BRILLIENT in fixing the presidential race, but not so much with Congressional races.... lol

You can't make this stuff up... There may not be a more gullible, naïve bunch in the history of the US than Trumpsters...

GOP also picked up state legislatures. So that pattern that statistics show anomalies regarding the time of votes for president as far as spikes in comparison to past elections.

 

[calamity]

GOP also picked up state legislatures. So that pattern that statistics show anomalies regarding the time of votes for president as far as spikes in comparison to past elections.

lol...no. It shows people hate Trump's ****ing guts. 80 million of us do. My guess is over 8 million of them voted for Joe and then all the Repubs they usually vote for.

 

[American]

lol...no. It shows people hate Trump's ****ing guts. 80 million of us do. My guess is over 8 million of them voted for Joe and then all the Repubs they usually vote for.

C'mon, man! Get a grip on yourself. You didn't post anything substantiating the numbers. There has been more than one expert on showing these statistical anomalies. You do realize the number of people that voted for Trump is substantial.

 

[calamity]

...You do realize the number of people that voted for Trump is substantial.

Yes, we have a lot of stupid racists in this country. That has never been in dispute.

 

[Jonsa]

If such an "electoral district" map were to be proposed in Canada there would be two very loud things happening:

1. laughter at the stupidity of the map;
   
   
   and
   
   
2. calls for the IMMEDIATE dismissal of the people who drew up the map.

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The slamming of the office doors as the people who drew up the map left on their way to the unemployment office would be quieter but would follow shortly.

Greater Toronto federal election ridings: the result of extreme non partisan Gerrymandering (RED IS LIBERAL IN CANADA)

 

[ASHES]

Greater Toronto federal election ridings: the result of extreme non partisan Gerrymandering (RED IS LIBERAL IN CANADA)

Hey there's me! I am actually surprised we're in the red.

 

[Dragonfly]

You do realize the number of people that voted for Trump is substantial.

I assume you realize that a substantial number of people voted for Biden?

The question is, why would you (or anyone) assume that the only possible way Biden could have won is through fraud?

 

[switt]

Or, maybe only "brain-dead idiots" think Joe Biden won.
5 More Ways Joe Biden Magically Outperformed Election Norms (thefederalist.com)

So there.

 

[switt]

Certainly could go either way and I think this country should be dedicated to getting to the bottom of it all. I think the current situation is untenable. I have no idea what remedies could solve the mystery, but an election mystery is not an acceptable outcome. There are simply too many questions, inconsistencies, highly unusual situations and chart irregularities, vote counts, etc. Every legal vote needs to count. Every illegal vote needs to be discarded. This mail-in year has been a mess.

Getting to the bottom of it is code for screwing up democracy. Wonder if this shtuff will become a norm. If Trump were to hang on, don't think that silly 2 term "suggested" limit would stand in the way of his lifelong rule. Of course we would not give those lefties another chance to cheat in 2024. Trump for life!

 

[TU Curmudgeon]

Greater Toronto federal election ridings: the result of extreme non partisan Gerrymandering (RED IS LIBERAL IN CANADA)

Yep, and those riding boundaries sure do "snake" all over the place, don't they.

Of course, with an average population of 65,924 per riding with an overall provincial average of 78,094, Toronto is 18.46% over represented with respect to the rest of the province and with a national average of 74,970 per riding Toronto is 13.68% over represented with respect to the country at large.

Mind you, Ontario has 37.38% of Canada's electorate and has only 35.80% of Canada's federal seats so a good case could be made that Ontario is under represented (except, of course, it IS within the ±10% zone allowable under the legislation covering allocation of seats.

PS - The Democratic Party in the US "inherited" its "Blue" when it was "The MORE Reactionary Wing of the American Oligarchic Capitalist Party" and the Republican Party was "The LESS Reactionary Wing of the American Oligarchic Capitalist Party".

 

[TU Curmudgeon]

I assume you realize that a substantial number of people voted for Biden?

The question is, why would you (or anyone) assume that the only possible way Biden could have won is through fraud?

Because Mr. Trump said so and Mr. Trump has never told a lie (not even when his father asked him who chopped down the cherry tree)?

 

[Dragonfly]

Because Mr. Trump said so and Mr. Trump has never told a lie (not even when his father asked him who chopped down the cherry tree)?

Dear Leader.....

 

[mrjurrs]

I opted for "Still not sure," as there are several issues yet to be resolved.

I do honestly think there was massive voter fraud utilizing the mail-in balloting process. Possibly also the counting machines provided by Smartmatic.

Even CNN (back when Lou Dobbs worked there) and more recently Democrats in Congress 12/2019 questioned it on the same basis as the current complaint by Sidney Powell:

CNN admitted smartmatic cannot be trusted: Democracy for Sale - YouTube

Here is the Democrat Congressperson's letter back in December 2019:

H.I.G. McCarthy, & Staple Street letters.pdf (senate.gov)

I am just not certain how much occurred, where it was used to effect the State balloting, and if it was significant enough to have actually changed the outcome or not.

Got any evidence? Nope. What people think doesn't matter in the judicial system. What the law says does.

 

[Dragonfly]

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/scotus-denied-election-texas-election-suit

Supreme Court declines to hear Trump-supported Texas case over election results in four other states

Another defeat.....

 

[Eriech]

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/scotus-denied-election-texas-election-suit




Another defeat.....

Trump still won and hasn't quit yet. Would you give your life, fortune and sacred honor that Joe won a free and fair election.

 

[Dragonfly]

Trump still won and hasn't quit yet. Would you give your life, fortune and sacred honor that Joe won a free and fair election.

 

[calamity]

Trump still won and hasn't quit yet. Would you give your life, fortune and sacred honor that Joe won a free and fair election.

Uh, wut?

 

[Eriech]

Uh, wut?

I take that as a no

 

[pamak]

After the Electoral College vote, who is still not sure?

 

[TU Curmudgeon]

After the Electoral College vote, who is still not sure?

The so-called "Electoral College vote" is invalid because Mr. Trump's observers were not allowed to personally examine every ballot cast, the so-called "electors" didn't provide photo ID that was approved by Mr. Trump, the so-called "electors" never provided proof of American citizenship, and the so-called "electors" cast their votes under duress. Not only that, but the Constitution requires that the Electoral College ACTUALLY meet (which meant at one place at one time) and that didn't happen so the whole so-called "Electoral College vote" is a nullity (especially since it didn't elect the person who actually won the election - Donald John Trump.

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[CaughtInThe]

I opted for "Still not sure," as there are several issues yet to be resolved.

I do honestly think there was massive voter fraud utilizing the mail-in balloting process. Possibly also the counting machines provided by Smartmatic.

Even CNN (back when Lou Dobbs worked there) and more recently Democrats in Congress 12/2019 questioned it on the same basis as the current complaint by Sidney Powell:

CNN admitted smartmatic cannot be trusted: Democracy for Sale - YouTube

Here is the Democrat Congressperson's letter back in December 2019:

H.I.G. McCarthy, & Staple Street letters.pdf (senate.gov)

I am just not certain how much occurred, where it was used to effect the State balloting, and if it was significant enough to have actually changed the outcome or not.

Are you sure yet?

 

[TU Curmudgeon]

Are you sure yet?

Most of those people who are saying "I'm not sure." are truncating I'm not sure, but I am keeping an open mind (because of something that someone who supports Mr. Trump told me)." and are actually saying "I don't believe that Mr. Biden won and I agree with Mr. Trump that he actually won in a landslide (because that is what I want reality to be).".

However,

THERE ARE STILL

1,397 DAYS

LEFT

in the current American presidential race and campaign to overturn the results of the 2020 elections,​

so we will simply have to wait and see what happens.

 

[CaughtInThe]

Most of those people who are saying "I'm not sure." are truncating I'm not sure, but I am keeping an open mind (because of something that someone who supports Mr. Trump told me)." and are actually saying "I don't believe that Mr. Biden won and I agree with Mr. Trump that he actually won in a landslide (because that is what I want reality to be).".

However,

THERE ARE STILL

1,397 DAYS

LEFT

in the current American presidential race and campaign to overturn the results of the 2020 elections,​

so we will simply have to wait and see what happens.

That's funny.