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Who is lying... Trump or Comey?

Who is lying... Comey or Trump?

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Trump: I'm '100 percent' willing to testify under oath | TheHill

Trump said he did not pressure the FBI chief to drop an investigation into his former national security adviser Michael Flynn, reiterating a denial made by his personal lawyer, Marc Kasowitz.


“I didn’t say that,” Trump said of his alleged request of Comey to “let go” of the Flynn probe.


Trump flatly denied that he demanded a pledge of personal loyalty from the former FBI director.


“No,” Trump said. “I hardly know the man, I’m gonna say, 'I want you to pledge allegiance.’ ”
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So who do you think is lying?
 
I think Trump is lying. Because of this tweet right here:

Despite so many false statements and lies, total and complete vindication...and WOW, Comey is a leaker!
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First of all, he's accusing Comey of 'leaking' their private conversation. Trump saying that he 'leaked' their conversation, is indirectly admitting that Comey's account of what happened is in fact accurate. How could Comey possibly 'leak' something that Trump is denying he even said in the first place? I call BS Trump.

Once again, Trump's urge to Tweet without thinking is probably going to bite him back in the ass.
 
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Why is this even a question when Trump is a pathological liar?
 
No one here knows.
 
lurchadams said:
Anyone who feels that Trump is the truthful one is either in denial or lying to us and themselves.
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...or, clicked the wrong box thinking the poll was 'who was telling the truth"..... I just doubled the number of people that believed in Trump, just going to prove "ya can't believe the polls"
 
upsideguy said:
...or, clicked the wrong box thinking the poll was 'who was telling the truth"..... I just doubled the number of people that believed in Trump, just going to prove "ya can't believe the polls"
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Comey, a well-respected person who carries himself professionally with 30 years of public service v.s. a buffoon like Trump? I have to agree.
 
Josie said:
No one here knows.
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You're saying that because you know there's about a 99.9 percent chance that comey is being completely honest and trump is lying.

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The administration that lied about the motivation for the firing of Jim Comey, saying it was due to the handling of the Hillary Clinton investigation, and then switched the excuse to the FBI was 'in disarray' and had lost confidence in their leader, and then lied about supposed tapes, that until produced, I consider a flat out fabrication, and now the administration is saying Comey is lying in his sworn testimony, yeah they're the ones lying again.
 
Winston said:
The administration that lied about the motivation for the firing of Jim Comey, saying it was due to the handling of the Hillary Clinton investigation, and then switched the excuse to the FBI was 'in disarray' and had lost confidence in their leader, and then lied about supposed tapes, that until produced, I consider a flat out fabrication, and now the administration is saying Comey is lying in his sworn testimony, yeah they're the ones lying again.
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Who da fuq is Jim Comey? James Comey's long lost brother? :lol:
 
I chose "I don't know" because while:

1. I know Mr. Trump often misspeaks, brags, has a poor memory for facts, and that he stubbornly refuses to recognize or apologize for clear errors; but...

2. If Mr. Comey was truly a "man of integrity" he would have (respectfully) stood up to both Mr. Trump during the alleged conversations, AND also the Obama Administration regarding the results of the email/server investigation and recommended prosecution of Ms. Clinton.

It is clear Mr. Comey was more concerned about preserving his job than doing it properly in both cases, which makes creating a CYA memo series with a somewhat slanted "memory" of the Trump conversations for when and if he did get fired entirely possible IMO.
 
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TheGoverness said:
Who da fuq is Jim Comey? James Comey's long lost brother? :lol:
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Introducing Doctor J. Comey is more like it. He is like 6'5", with a lot of free time, maybe time to scrape the rust off the jump shot..

On a more serious note, from what I've seen almost everyone who had a personal or professional relationship with him, referred to James Comey as Jim Comey.
 
I know this might sound crazy to many people, but I think both men are telling the truth as they interpreted the same conversation differently. Commentators I’d hope at this point noticed Trump doesn’t ever talk political speak [I am not even sure he can] and this runs him into problems with those who do especially when they mostly do. From my POV, as one who takes Trumps tweets, conversations and impromptu speeches as I would anyone else musing…and yes, generally like the guy.

Comey is reading into conversations, preparing contingencies, and from all indications paraphrasing in his notes. He was attempting to try his best to look balanced between perceptions of “Hillary favoritism” and “trump puppet” both which would impede him doing his job. As let us not forget this is happening at the time he’s being accused of swinging a very controversial election with his strange actions before the election. He leaks the notes as a image strategy and as a way to get the special council. Get's fired(long overdue) – in true legal style reviews and rewrites the events the best he can(and as he should).

Meanwhile, Trump: “WTF man – my god when is all this nonsense going to end”
(cough cough – never :-|)

If Comey was truly concerned he would have expressed that – the sequence of events says otherwise and nothing he has done or said has countered that, everything points to a saving face narrative… but alas he was too worried about fixing his image to try and look balanced. Poor guy. I hope the email investigation conspiracies are just as empty(my suspicion is they are). Poor guy was above his head; I mean what was the letter/statement before the election?

but, I am sure that's all just a pro-trump lens to most people - but anyway that how I see it for what that is worth.

Edit: I do think he asked for loyalty in a round about way and mentioned Flynn ~ I really don't see the issue with that and think framing it such is insane...but than I am not a military vet, bureaucratic guy or a lawyer...and so it might even bite him in the legal bum as with the context and current status its a lawyer question. But I promise that if so, it will be viewed as absolutely insane by a lot of people like me...and though whatever government can easily move on without trump, it will have consequences...of course if my suspicious is correct it's all smoke and mirrors in a strategy to bog down the trump narrative and distract his team from his policies, in which case I think he's playing them as he likes playing from the defensive.
 
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Captain Adverse said:
I chose "I don't know" because while:

1. I know Mr. Trump often misspeaks, brags, has a poor memory for facts, and that he stubbornly refuses to recognize or apologize for clear errors; but...

2. If Mr. Comey was truly a "man of integrity" he would have (respectfully) stood up to both Mr. Trump during the alleged conversations, AND also the Obama Administration regarding the results of the email/server investigation and recommended prosecution of Ms. Clinton.

It is clear Mr. Comey was more concerned about preserving his job than doing it properly in both cases, which makes creating a CYA memo series with a somewhat slanted "memory" of the Trump conversations for when and if he did get fired entirely possible IMO.
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Though, Comey made an intelligent and straight forward impression he was under severe pressure and obviously understands bureaucratic maneuvers. I suspect that he suspected that his term was approaching rough waters and that is, when organization man writes the selectively worded aide memoir.

What i find disturbing at this juncture is the fact that Trump would offer to swear instead of just supplying the recordings behind closed doors.
 
ModerateGOP said:
Liars don't take notes.
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That is just a truly stupid statement.

Sure liars do, especially after claiming the notes to be contemporaneous. Note how his narrative quickly changed about the President atempting to obstruct justice when Trump put out the idea that the conversation might have been recorded. Then he lies about his middle of the night epiphany (although the way he lawyerly phrased it, he could maybe weasel out of it ), he has also lied under oath about the requirement of intent with regard to all the various and sundry national security violations by ol Thunder thighs, Cankles, herself...of which, in any case there was undeniable proof of intent.

His lies, under oath mind you, are numerous and should be prosecuted as he, as at least equal to anybody else in his law enforcement position, should well have known.
 
Trump has thrown out the possibility that there might be tapes which will prove who is telling the truth and who is lying. Comey has said to bring the tapes on. So lets look at the possibilities.

1- there are tapes and they prove Trump right and Comey lied.
2- there are tapes and they prove Comey right and Trump is lying.
3- there are no tapes which makes it highly questionable why Trump would bring up such a possibility in the first place

Trump controls the tapes.

If #1 is the case, Trump would have already revealed them - and he has not - so that makes it very very unlikely.
If #2 is the case, Trump would NOT reveal them as they only work against him.

So logically, there either are no tapes or they would prove Comey is telling the truth.
 
TheGoverness said:
I think Trump is lying. Because of this tweet right here:



First of all, he's accusing Comey of 'leaking' their private conversation. Trump saying that he 'leaked' their conversation, is indirectly admitting that Comey's account of what happened is in fact accurate. How could Comey possibly 'leak' something that Trump is denying he even said in the first place? I call BS Trump.

Once again, Trump's urge to Tweet without thinking is probably going to bite him back in the ass.
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How can you leak a conversation without it being accurate? Are you joking...do you truly not understand how someone can leak without also lying about some of the particulars?

I call BS on YOU.
 
Gaugingcatenate said:
How can you leak a conversation without it being accurate? Are you joking...do you truly not understand how someone can leak without also lying about some of the particulars?

I call BS on YOU.
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The fact that Trump is a constantly lying piece of **** has escaped you, of course.
 
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