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So among conservative women there are exceptions, but liberal women are all alike?ptsdkid said:Your poll almost becomes moot from the start. The fact that aqua and myself are conservatives or republicans insures from the previous facts/polls that we are considerably 'happier' than liberals in general.
Here you are pitting two liberal females against two conservative males in the quest to find who is angrier? It has already been established that liberals are less happy than we cons, and that females are much more psychologically unstable and unfit to assume the role of political leadership roles. There are a few exceptions to that rule, however. Conservative women like Condi Rice and Margaret Thatcher are not only happy women--they have the emotional stability to rule in the political and governmental realm.
Until liberal women learn that abortion is murder, and that not having the human capacity to nurture and love that child--you will never show up on any scale of happiness in this world.
ptsdkid said:***What does having a psychiatric disorder have to do with one's happiness? The fact that I was able to overcome some very debilitating combat traumas to the point of where my happiness and goal-oriented ideals have become paramount--make for many engaging public speaking sessions at various medical milieus a sign of my progress and contentment with life.
I still maintain that conservatives are happier people because they have learned the 'work ethic', whereas, liberals depend on others (especially the government) to take care of their every dependable need.
mixedmedia said:So among conservative women there are exceptions, but liberal women are all alike?
You don't know my stance on abortion, and I have loved and nurtured three children. Now try another tack. Tell me why I am unhappier than you. You whose sadness and resentment veritably oozes from at least every other post you write.
You mean the facts based on your impression of a handful of women?ptsdkid said:***Yeah, the exceptions come from conservative women in both politics and abortion. While there is always an exception or two to the general rule--the facts back me up on these two examples.
Facts? Where's these facts your say you have that can prove this argument? My own IMPRESSION? People who hate are unhappy. Will never find happiness.Lets take abortion first: Remember the feminists--the group of liberal women (NAGS) that claimed to have had women's best interest at heart when shouting/screaming into any available microphone, to any available audience? Their #1 issue has always been for a woman's right to choose murdering their unborn. Notice that there isn't a conservative woman representing this fringe movement. Those people (mostly liberals) that choose murder of loving a potential life cannot be happy with anything they do in life. Seeing how the liberal political platform embraces the option of pro choice/murder--then the majority of if not all liberals are of the pro murder set--therefore they are destined to a life of unhappiness.
Politically speaking: Conservatives=pro life=happiness.
Liberals=pro death=unhappiness.
It is the impression I get from reading your posts. That you are a sad and resentful man. Epitome of happiness? Really? Then I don't want to be happy. I am happy to be whatever it is I am then.I got a sizable belly laugh from your statement that sadness and resentment oozes from at least every other post of mine. I am the epitome of happiness; that is why I try so hard to get liblosers on the conservative bandwagon.
It is the liberals that resent successful conservative people. You see it in everything they do and or stand for. Try reading my post upstairs titled 'Liberal love class warfare' to get a better take on how resentful liberals have become. It could also be that you have a hard time in deciphering good dry humor.
George_Washington said:You guys, a little note on the concept of happiness. Happiness really has nothing to do with having a psychological impairment or not. Like Deejay mentioned, people that are mentally retarded do tend to be happy.
I really though don't think pts should be judged on the fact that he is mentally disabled or whatnot. Some of the most successful people in history have had mental problems. Millions of Americans suffer from depression at some point in their lifetime. Isaac Newton, Van Gogh, Russell Nash, and Howard Hughes were all tremendously successful people with mental conditions. I believe if a person has a good heart, than it doesn't matter if he or she is disabled.
I am not sure why you guys think that pts has gross impairment of thought just because he is disabled. There are many mentally disabled people that go onto college and live normal, successful lives.
National Center For PTSD said:Posttraumatic Stress Disorder, or PTSD, is a psychiatric disorder that can occur following the experience or witnessing of life-threatening events such as military combat, natural disasters, terrorist incidents, serious accidents, or violent personal assaults like rape. People who suffer from PTSD often relive the experience through nightmares and flashbacks, have difficulty sleeping, and feel detached or estranged, and these symptoms can be severe enough and last long enough to significantly impair the person's daily life.
PTSD is marked by clear biological changes as well as psychological symptoms. PTSD is complicated by the fact that it frequently occurs in conjunction with related disorders such as depression, substance abuse, problems of memory and cognition, and other problems of physical and mental health. The disorder is also associated with impairment of the person's ability to function in social or family life, including occupational instability, marital problems and divorces, family discord, and difficulties in parenting.
ptsdkid said:***Surprise, I want to judge the rest of you based on your political views. Surprise, this is a 'Debate Politics' forum...isn't it?
Do you think that people (both liberals & conservatives) formulate political opinions just by reading the news? We are all human, (at least most of us). I did start this happiness issue off with an over 30-year long survey that backed up my suspicions that conservatives were the happier of the two.
So backed up with the factual survey--I then went on to submit my personal opinions as a buffer to all this 'garbage' reference.
Wouldn't it make greater sense for me to claim that your personal views were the real 'garbage' since you do not have a legitimate survey to back up your views?
mixedmedia said:I missed seeing the survey. What thread is it on?
That said, the whole idea that political persuasion is somehow a determinate of your happiness seems a specious theory at best. My happiness doesn't depend on being a liberal. Neither does it depend on how much money I make or who is president or whether Islamic terrorists want to kill me. I am happy because I am an optimist, I enjoy my life and because I feel tremendous love for the people close to me. Which brings me back around to the very real fact that close to half of Americans are not political at all. Some of them are happy, some are not. Don't you think the same things that effect their happiness also effect ours?
ptsdkid said:***The survey, I believe it is on the thread 'Who are happier, conservatives or liberals'.
The survey on happiness was taken in context with political affiliations, not with other groups of an apolitical nature.
On a side note: Optimism is certainly key for those wanting happiness in their lives. Its only when one tries to combine a liberal outlook on life with the word optimism that I disagree with. Optimism and liberalism make for an interesting oxymoron. If you can show me one optimistic ideal or one optimistic (forward looking) liberal leader of the U.S. of A--then I'll begin to question my my entire political outlook on things.
mixedmedia said:I could give you many optimistic liberal ideals and leaders, but give me one reason why I should bother. Don't you think having complete lack of faith with about 50% of America's registered voters and what they care about and believe is a little lacking in optimism?
ptsdkid said:***Surprise, I want to judge the rest of you based on your political views. Surprise, this is a 'Debate Politics' forum...isn't it?
Do you think that people (both liberals & conservatives) formulate political opinions just by reading the news? We are all human, (at least most of us). I did start this happiness issue off with an over 30-year long survey that backed up my suspicions that conservatives were the happier of the two.
So backed up with the factual survey--I then went on to submit my personal opinions as a buffer to all this 'garbage' reference.
Wouldn't it make greater sense for me to claim that your personal views were the real 'garbage' since you do not have a legitimate survey to back up your views?
I see you also have PTSD...:2wave:Gardener said:It is only through my own near saintly concerns for the well being of the women (and naughtynurses) of this forum that I have not released any examples from my own latest photo set (The speedo muses, volume 5), because I realize the highly erotic nature of the rope-like musculature of my sinewy inner thighs, the perfect symmetry of my steely buns, the sublimity of my washboard abs and the rather regretable qualities intrinsic to a fabric that refuses to leave anything to the the sorts imaginatons that would run wild even if it were not to cling with such tenacity -- well, I think this may have been too much for them to bear without some sort of psychological trauma. Good thing I'm so nice, myself.
ptsdkid said:***One reason to bother giving me many optimistic liberal ideals or leaders is because you can't give me even one.
There are about 12-15% more registered Republican than Democrats. Not sure on the specific numbers. Growing red-stated America helps to confirm those percentages. Optimisim as defined for me in relation to politics happened in 1994 when Newt Gingrich and company delivered a rather progressive, important, desirable, viable and extremely optimistic package to congress called the Contract with America. Every item in the contract was geared toward growth, redevelopment, economic, military, and for humanistic needs of the American people. No sooner was it delivered than the Democrats/Liberals in congress started ragging on the proposals by calling it "The Contract on America". Despite having a liberal president at the time in Bill Clinton, and an already Democratically controlled congress--Newt and the Republicans managed to get 9 of the 10 proposals passed. This my dear, was when the optimistic voters got in gear by voting Republican--going on 12 years now--without looking back, and without worrying about the negativity oozing from the Democrat's platform mouthpieces. The only hurdle since 1994 that the Republicans had to overcome was in waiting out the second term of a phony presidency in 1996 of Bill Clinton. The rest of the story is pure optimistic Republican leadership, for the betterment and contentment of it's people.
cnredd said:I see you also have PTSD...:2wave:
[Sarcastic Moderator Mode]Gardener said:Yes, I have to admit -- my Preternaturally Tantalizing Speedo Display becomes a burdon at times, but I try to keep bear it in my typical stoic fashion. Stiff upper, you know......
***Never expected you to seek my approval of anything. I just enjoy stating facts by backing them up with my well-intentioned/experienced view on life.
If you ever do find the time to watch a political news program at night or on Sunday morning--I suggest you pay close attention to the words, to the facial expressions, and to the temperments of all the political talking heads. Follow the emotional outbursts and overall demeanor of liberals like John Kerry, Howard Dean, Terry McCauliffe, Ted Kennedy, Hillary Clinton, James Carville, Harry Reid, Nancy Pelosi, Al Sharpton, Jessie Jackson and any other big wigs from the Democratic party. Then tell me with an honest face whether you think these people are angry, enraged, negative, unhappy, short-fused, or if they look to be happy, positive, care-free, forward looking, helpful, on board, non partisan, sincerely engaged and content.
I think your answer (if truthful) would put each one of those characters squarely into the former category.
To keep things fair and balanced--I would also suggest you study the Republican operative counterparts to get a firm take on their overall countenance and demeanor. I think you'll find with the Republicans that there is an overall picture of people engaging, positive, helpful, non partisan, helpful, happy and content in life.
Even the one most vociferous voice among the Republicans (Ann Coulter) is a sweetheart, and she tends to use harmless sarcasm when needed against any Democrat rat fink. Almost every Republican I see on TV has a sense of worth, a sense of responsibility, a sense of worthwhile ideals, a sense of resolution to and for the issues, and a sense of happiness coupled with varying degrees of a sense of humor. I don't see or sense any of these character traits among the most visual Democrats of leadership. You do remember Ronald Reagan's engaging personality and sense of humor amidst a heavily controlled Democratic Congress?
I said before, there are always exceptions to the rule--you obviously being one of them. But the overall majority of liberals are miserable people for the most part. I suspect you have broken the mold because you really don't study the ineffective dangerous platform ideals of the Liberal/Democratic party as we know them today.
Gardener said:Just commenting on the original question here, but while I think MM has to be one of the very nicest people on this whole board, Stace must have at least a little bit of a mean streak in her. I mean, why else tantalize all the young fellows here (and some that are not so young) with the glimpes of such delightful goodies, the likes of which they they may never hope to sample?
It is only through my own near saintly concerns for the well being of the women (and naughtynurses) of this forum that I have not released any examples from my own latest photo set (The speedo muses, volume 5), because I realize the highly erotic nature of the rope-like musculature of my sinewy inner thighs, the perfect symmetry of my steely buns, the sublimity of my washboard abs and the rather regretable qualities intrinsic to a fabric that refuses to leave anything to the the sorts imaginatons that would run wild even if it were not to cling with such tenacity -- well, I think this may have been too much for them to bear without some sort of psychological trauma. Good thing I'm so nice, myself.
Gardener said:Yes, I have to admit -- my Preternaturally Tantalizing Speedo Display becomes a burdon at times, but I try to keep bear it in my typical stoic fashion. Stiff upper, you know......
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