Who are sending bomb threats to HCBU's?

[AmNat]

Let's not go nuts.

Yes, we can't discount the possibility of a hoax, but I daresay more of these stories prove legitimate than not.

One of the things often overlooked in these debates is that incidents like this are a microscopic look at issues that are fundamentally macroscopic. By this, I mean that, should this incident turn out to be a hoax, the fact remains that anti-black sentiment exists in the US and colleges--all institutions--need to take threats seriously. Conversely, if the threats turn out to be legitimate, the fact remains that hate crime hoaxes aren't uncommon and can't be ruled out a priori.

We bicker back and forth with speculation over whether a threat is legitimate or a hoax, but the eventual outcome is only one data point among thousands.

I can't recall a single hate crime story that became a big media story in the last ~5 years that was actually true. Granted I haven't studied the matter.

 

[RIP U.S. Democracy]

Whatever is happening, it's sick.

Trump has encouraged all of the white racists out there, most of whom have been in the closet for decades, to be bold.

That's what is happening.

 

[Credence]

I can't recall a single hate crime story that became a big media story in the last ~5 years that was actually true. Granted I haven't studied the matter.

These are just off the the top of my head; there are many more: Charlottesville, Pittsburg Synogogue shooting, Asian spas shooting, King Soopers Supermarket Shooting; Anti-Latino shooting Walmart El Paso, TX (from 2017-2019)

 

[RIP U.S. Democracy]

I can't recall a single hate crime story that became a big media story in the last ~5 years that was actually true. Granted I haven't studied the matter.

Geez....that's for sure.

I'm sure hate crimes get a lot of coverage on Fox News and OAN.

As studies have shown, watching no news is better than watching Fox News.

 

[AmNat]

These are just off the the top of my head; there are many more: Charlottesville

I was referring to crimes, like those mentioned in the OP, with an initially unknown perpetrator. Though Charlottesville is still a good example insofar as the narrative spun by the media was entirely false.

 

[NolanVoyd]

More outrage about things that never happened?

What never happened?

 

[trixare4kids]

More than a dozen HBCUs get bomb threats on the first day of Black History Month

At least 14 HBCUs reported bomb threats Tuesday. At least one of them, Howard University, also received a bomb threat Monday.

www.wmtw.com

THere were 14 bomb threats to HCBU's in just one day and of course it is Black History month. The callers say they are from White Supremacist groups, but who really knows. Since no bombs have yet been found, it would seem that whoever is doing this is trying to hassle the HCBU's. I wonder if they are caught they will yell freedom of speech. The problem is that as soon as a university or college decides it is just a prank, there will be a bomb and many will be hurt. Since this is happening in many states, the FBI is now involved. I think that whoever is doing this should be found, tried and sent away for a good long time. What do yo uthink?

Let them yell all the way to jail.
Bomb threats are not freedom of speech.

 

[code1211]

Ah, someone who follows in the footsteps of if I shot at him and missed I should not be charged. You do not think this costs anyone anything. The schools can not take it as a hoax in case there are bombs. The police have to search entire campuses to insure there are no bombs and classes are cancelled. All of this cost thousands off dollars and then the cost of the investigation. You sound like there is no cost to such actions because it does not effect you and no one was hurt, this time. And things did happen, there were threats made and if those who made the calls are found, I am sure they will look good in orange.

Not knowing who made the calls means that we don't know who made the calls.

I'm guessing kooks.

The outrage seems to be that hate cries have been committed.

The outrage seems to based on the belief that there are hate filled ideologues wishing to bomb colleges. The evidence is absent.

Seems more likely that there are idiots with too much time on their hands who have access to phones.

 

[code1211]

You do realize making bomb threats is a federal crime whether there's a bomb or not, correct?

I also realize that the threats were empty and the calls were very likely made by kooks.

 

[The AntiDonald]

I can't recall a single hate crime story that became a big media story in the last ~5 years that was actually true. Granted I haven't studied the matter.

Dillon Roof. Black church in South Carolina. 9 blacks shot and killed by young male white supremacist.

Just one of many. You should study up before posting such propaganda.

 

[COTO]

I can't recall a single hate crime story that became a big media story in the last ~5 years that was actually true. Granted I haven't studied the matter.

The case of the man spray-painting swastikas on synagogues in Chicago is fairly recent and has resulted in charges.

The man responsible apparently suffers from mental problems, so I'm not certain if he'll be found fit to stand trial, but it's definitely a hate crime and it's not a hoax.

Dillon Roof. Black church in South Carolina. 9 blacks shot and killed by young male white supremacist.

Just one of many. You should study up before posting such propaganda.

That occurred seven years ago. It doesn't qualify as a "big media story in the last ~5 years".

 

[code1211]

What never happened?

Thankfully, actual bombs and bombings.

 

[Credence]

I can't recall a single hate crime story that became a big media story in the last ~5 years that was actually true. Granted I haven't studied the matter.

I was referring to crimes, like those mentioned in the OP, with an initially unknown perpetrator. Though Charlottesville is still a good example insofar as the narrative spun by the media was entirely false.

You changed the goal post. I specifically addressed your comments and listed hate crimes perpetrated within the past 5 years.

I don't know when you say the media spun the narrative on Charlottesville. The perp was convicted of first degree murder. Other White Supremacists plead guilty to rioting and the Unite the Rally organizers were ordered to pay millions.

Charlottesville car rammer found guilty of first-degree murder

Stems from the August 2017 attack at the violent rally.

abcnews.go.com

White supremacists plead guilty in Charlottesville riot

Two more members of a white supremacist group have pleaded guilty to conspiring to riot at a white nationalist rally in Virginia and political rallies in California

abcnews.go.com

‘Unite the Right’ Rally Organizers Ordered to Pay $25 Million in Damages to Victims | National Review

The panel did not determine that the far right-wing leaders are guilty of a federal conspiracy to orchestrate a racially-motivated attack.

www.nationalreview.com

 

[Credence]

FBI identifies 6 juveniles as persons of interest in bomb threats at Black colleges​

The minors appear to be using sophisticated methods to disguise the source of the threats, which seem to have a racist motivation, a law enforcement official says.

Minors identified as persons of interests in threats to Black colleges

The minors appear to be using sophisticated methods to disguise the source of the threats, which seem to have a racist motivation, a law enforcement official says.

www.nbcnews.com

 

[NolanVoyd]

Thankfully, actual bombs and bombings.

Are you aware that just making a bomb threat is a serious felony, even of there is no actual bomb?

 

[CaughtInThe]

FBI identifies 6 juveniles as persons of interest in bomb threats at Black colleges​

The minors appear to be using sophisticated methods to disguise the source of the threats, which seem to have a racist motivation, a law enforcement official says.

Minors identified as persons of interests in threats to Black colleges

The minors appear to be using sophisticated methods to disguise the source of the threats, which seem to have a racist motivation, a law enforcement official says.

www.nbcnews.com

babies are not born this way.

it takes teaching from adults/caregivers.

 

[SoCal]

I also realize that the threats were empty and the calls were very likely made by kooks.

You can blow them off as, "empty" threats, but you can terrorize a community without actually causing damage. Especially when they're directed at a people who have a long history of being victimized.

And we know exactly what kind of, "kooks" they are...

 

[rickc]

Trump unleashed a monster when he legitimize the white nationalist, white supremacist and just plain racist among us.

Going to be very difficult getting them back in the bottle.

 

[Lloyd Christmas]

These people immediately start going BUT WHAT IF ITS A HOAX and weirdly only seem to do this when it's black people being victimized...

Classic white supremacist tactic.

And projection. It is them that do that type of shit, becuase everything about them is dishonest and scummy. JUst like the white nationalist who showed up at night for BLM protest and stoked violence. Just like they claim "Soros paid protestors" when its actually shit they would do

 

[Chillfolks]

So this massive white supremacy campaign of intimidation is looking more like a few punk ass kids playing a really unfunny prank.

 

[Deuce]

So this massive white supremacy campaign of intimidation is looking more like a few punk ass kids playing a really unfunny prank.

It's literally terrorism directed at black people, would you accept "it's a prank bro" from an islamic "punk ass kid" making a bomb threat?

 

[jnug]

So this massive white supremacy campaign of intimidation is looking more like a few punk ass kids playing a really unfunny prank.

Does not matter. The threats need to be taken seriously and as a result their terror impacts are real an consequential. The entire Right end of the political dialog spectrum at this forum has gone entirely off the deep end since...........the court ruled that the National Archives should release the Trump WH documents to the Select Committee. Donnie has gone off the deep end as well. It would appear he is scared shitless finally and so are his acolytes.

 

[SoCal]

So this massive white supremacy campaign of intimidation is looking more like a few punk ass kids playing a really unfunny prank.

You mean racist punk ass kids playing a prank that will get you 5+ in the slammer. Very unfunny...

 

[code1211]

I was referring to crimes, like those mentioned in the OP, with an initially unknown perpetrator. Though Charlottesville is still a good example insofar as the narrative spun by the media was entirely false.

There have been hate crimes. There have also been untrue claims from the dim wits who claim a hate crime is committed when there was none.

The man who was murdered as he was dragged behind the pick up using a chain and the Jussie Smollett stupidity are probably at the extremes.

 

[code1211]

Are you aware that just making a bomb threat is a serious felony, even of there is no actual bomb?

I assumed it was. I can't quote the actual Code.

That said, though, all things considered, I'd prefer to have a bomb threat with no bomb than a bomb threat with a bomb.