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White privilege

Thumper said:
You really aught to stop assuming. I was honestly asking which rules you were talking about.
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And you asked again. I like this game. You play stupid and I don't participate but get you to keep asking. Again. :mrgreen:
 
NonoBadDog said:
Stay confused. I don't care. You are playing coy.
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Or maybe he really doesn't know. I have to admit that I don't know what rules you are talking about either.
 
Henrin said:
Or maybe he really doesn't know. I have to admit that I don't know what rules you are talking about either.
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My answer to you would be the same.
 
RabidAlpaca said:
You're missing the point. This isn't a micro thing, it's a macro thing. Any given white person could easily be far poorer or have less social mobility than any given black person. However, after 200+ years of whites as a whole absorbing wealth and repressing blacks as a whole, the per capita wealth of blacks is dramatically less than it is for whites.

This isn't any individual's fault, just a historic reality. Wealth is passed down along the generations and blacks have had less wealth to pass down. Regardless of your race, having dirt poor or uneducated parents will echo down through multiple generations. Couple that with the fact that schools in black neighborhoods are statistically underfunded compared to white neighborhoods, there absolutely is an effect. When you take everything into account blacks as a whole have less wealth and opportunity than whites as a whole.



By the way that you would actually say something this ridiculously stupid shows you've never opened a history book in your life. This, what you're experiencing as a white person right now, is the worst and most extreme case of racism mankind has ever seen?
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The fact is that black people, as a demographic, were the most rapidly advancing economically group up to and for a short time after the Great Society initiatives of the Johnson Administration. But once progressive ideas and systems kicked in, that changed. Just spending a few hours with the writings of Thomas Sowell, and most people will have a very different perception about 'white privilege' than that presented by the politically correct left. Just one sampling he wrote and an informative commentary on his book:

Race, Politics and Lies - Thomas Sowell

Go to the 6th paragraph down in this one:
https://fee.org/articles/black-rednecks-and-white-liberals/

And McWhorter is brilliant in this essay:
Excerpt describing, IMO, the end result of Affirmative Action:
. . .To be sure, there is, indeed, a distinct White Privilege. Being white does offer a freedom not easily available to others. You can underperform without it being ascribed to your race. And when you excel, no one wonders whether Affirmative Action had anything to do it. Authority figures are likely to be your color, and no one associates people of your color with a propensity to violence. No one expects you to represent your race in a class discussion or anywhere else.

The Privilege of Checking White Privilege - The Daily Beast​
 
Henrin said:
Or maybe he really doesn't know. I have to admit that I don't know what rules you are talking about either.
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Kinda hard to make sure everyone is held to the same rules when people dont know them isnt it?
 
The whole concept of privilege based on race is so comical it hurts. Its ESPECIALLY fun watching rich minorities and whites at Ivy league colleges talking about 'white privilege'. I'm certain the poverty stricken white communities in the Appalachian states will take solace in knowing that while they face the same problems and in greater numbers than inner city black communities, its easier for them because of all that privilege they enjoy.

Privilege is a bi-product of social status and class...not race. Study after study shows that if you graduate from high school and dont have a child out of wedlock (and certainly not while in high school) have a high probability of success regardless of race. Families that work hard and invest in their childrens future of all races absolutely provide them an advantage over those that do not...regardless of race.

'White Privilege' is the whining cry of victim-hood.
 
NonoBadDog said:
That isn't a solution for racism. That is a way to cause more divide. Until the rules are the same for everyone things will never change. White privilege is just a buzz term to use as an excuse to ostracize a group of people that are different.
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The rules are the same for everyone, you're just one of the whiners that freaks out when someone points out that not every race has the exact same level of opportunity in the US.
 
RabidAlpaca said:
The rules are the same for everyone, you're just one of the whiners that freaks out when someone points out that not every race has the exact same level of opportunity in the US.
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Try competing for a government contract against a certified minority owned business, and then get back to us.
 
RetiredUSN said:
Try competing for a government contract against a certified minority owned business, and then get back to us.
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Uh huh, so you want priority white access to suckle off the government tit? Why don't you get a real job in the real economy instead of sucking tax payer funds from a government you want to downsize anyway.
 
RabidAlpaca said:
Uh huh, so you want priority white access to suckle off the government tit? Why don't you get a real job in the real economy instead of sucking tax payer funds from a government you want to downsize anyway.
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I have a real job as a small business owner and contribute my fair share back into the economy........ while not bidding on government contracts.

Would you care to expand on why you made these assumptions?

Or would you rather continue on with your ad hominem responses for lack of any real argument?
 
RetiredUSN said:
I have a real job as a small business owner and contribute my fair share back into the economy........ while not bidding on government contracts.

Would you care to expand on why you made these assumptions?

Or would you rather continue on with your ad hominem responses for lack of any real argument?
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Because I'm tired of hearing you guys' whining about how oppressed you are as a white person in America. No, the system isn't rigged against you. Man up. I can't imagine the hissy fit you guys would have if you actually were oppressed and didn't just have to suffer through equality.
 
RabidAlpaca said:
Because I'm tired of hearing you guys' whining about how oppressed you are as a white person in America. No, the system isn't rigged against you. Man up. I can't imagine the hissy fit you guys would have if you actually were oppressed and didn't just have to suffer through equality.
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You guys.....huh? Just more liberal white guilt on your part.

I simply pointed out that there are incompetence in how the government does business in reference to picking winners and losers.

Explain why minority owned businesses should go to the head of the line over any other competent contractor.

Should we hire contractors based on sex and skin pigment, or by their competence and quality of work?
 
RetiredUSN said:
You guys.....huh? Just more liberal white guilt on your part.

I simply pointed out that there are incompetence in how the government does business in reference to picking winners and losers.

Explain why minority owned businesses should go to the head of the line over any other competent contractor.

Should we hire contractors based on sex and skin pigment, or by their competence and quality of work?
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Uh oh, looks like I've triggered you by pointing out that you're not oppressed. Hope I haven't invaded your safe space. I'm so sorry you feel threatened. Maybe some day American whites will rise up and break the chains of their oppressors trying to shackle you with equality.
 
RabidAlpaca said:
Uh oh, looks like I've triggered you by pointing out that you're not oppressed. Hope I haven't invaded your safe space. I'm so sorry you feel threatened. Maybe some day American whites will rise up and break the chains of their oppressors trying to shackle you with equality.
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There you again with your nonsense.

I posed a logical question, and you continue throwing out more of your usual garbage.
 
The biggest argument against White Privilege is the success of Asian men, most of whom are recent immigrants.

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jaeger19 said:
So you had private education. What if you didn;t have the opportunity to have a private education? What if instead the only opportunity was to go to a cruddy public school? Would that have been YOUR choice?

And you had help from a local banker.. who knew your family and liked you. What if that local banker didn't like uppity folks like yourself and instead of helping.. denied you a loan.

you really can't go on.. you just admitted that you had help.. that it wasn;t just your good choices. And yes.. go look at nearly any person in history.. the thread is the same.. they had opportunities afforded them by people in position to do so.. whether family or friendly bankers, or government and they took advantage of that opportunity they were given. Very very.. dang few people are actually truly "self made".

dude.. you went to private education.. and you were in a family that could afford such... and you don't think that translates to an advantage????. Come on.
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I grew up on the lower east side of NYC (think bowery in the 70's) then Newark, NJ. We were working poor, where was muh privilege? We had no banker. so why would I be lumped in with him and his mysterious racist banker?
 
jaeger19 said:
That's because my friend.. none of those folks were enslaved. none of them had to endure the level of racism to any degree as much as the African americans.

AND those that look different.. like Japanese actually faced more discrimination.. and got REPARATIONS from the government for what was done to them. So you don't know your history.

You sir simply are being obtuse. The only one that seems to be screaming here is you. Grouping black folks into "the problem is themselves"..

Study after study shows that simply having a black sounding name makes it harder to get a job. that's not a problem caused by themselves.
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The Irish Slave Trade ? The Forgotten ?White? Slaves | Global Research - Centre for Research on Globalization

High school student disproves professor?s theory that ?No Irish Need Apply? signs never existed | IrishCentral.com
(liberal kooks recently tried to "whitewash" this from history)

Did Black People Own Slaves?
(free blacks owned black slaves, and even had white indentured servants)



Grouping black folks into "the problem is themselves"..
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wait, so you want to group all white people as "privileged" but then you make this comment? How does this work?






Study after study shows that simply having a black sounding name makes it harder to get a job. that's not a problem caused by themselves.
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http://www.nber.org/papers/w9873.pdf

"...African American sounding name or a very White sounding name"

What is a white sounding name vs a "african american" sounding name? Seriously?

also:

" Applicants living in better neighborhoods receive more callbacks but, interestingly, this effect does not differ by race."


Doesn't that kill the study?


"We eliminate any ad where applicants are asked to call or appear in person."

Flawed. it's a name not liking study, not a racist one.
 
ReverendHellh0und said:
I grew up on the lower east side of NYC (think bowery in the 70's) then Newark, NJ. We were working poor, where was muh privilege? We had no banker. so why would I be lumped in with him and his mysterious racist banker?
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As has been pointed out to you many times before, nobody on any side of the issue has claimed that individuals from either race can't be dirt poor or largely successful.

Yet as Calamity pointed out in post #221 , black households have about half the median income of white or asian households. Must be cause them damn negroes are just lazy right? There couldn't possibly be any socioeconomic reasons.
 
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