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Anybody who thinks that one race is better than another is an idiot. Plain and simple. If you think you're going to be able to get through with wise words, eloquent points and irrefutable facts, you're in for a long hard row. Something tells me that you haven't enough internet debating experience with these kinds of mental midgets to know better. Good luck if you think you know better than I though!herrwolf said:Crap to you, stimilating to others, not to mention someone's belief. If these people can't use a forum to express their views than you should't either! If racial eqaulity is your goal you wont ever get it in this world! How about the racial issue of very dark black americans as opposed to lighter skinned black americans? What do they call that? Colorism or something?
On the contrary I'm well versed in this area. I've learned that people will believe what they want for whatever reason they want. I'm not here to change someones view, I'm actually interested in what everyone has to say. It's the intolerant who won't listen to everyone. Maybe the white supremacist is using the whole story as a canard to get attention for any number of reasons? Who is more intolerant? The person who hates everyone? Or the person who claims to be for eqaultiy and hates the intolerant one?Something tells me that you haven't enough internet debating experience with these kinds of mental midgets to know better
You've conflated two disparate things in a muddled way.Aryan Imperium said:The law may recognise the artificial concept of "equality" but nature by contrast is hierarchical which must be very inconvenient for the multiculturalists amongst us.
The imposition of "equal rights" is in no way evidence or an indicator of "equality".Such a notion is ridiculous and no end of legislating will make it appear any more rational.
Of course you are. Every "non-racial supremacist" I've ever encountered on the web makes this claim. Usually then they proceed to misuse terms and misidentify concepts. Forgive me if I prejudge you and am prejudiced against the truthfulness of such a claim. Please, though, feel free to prove me wrong by demonstrating your knowledge. I'm open to correction.herrwolf said:On the contrary I'm well versed in this area.
Don't know where the **** you've been. I suppose you're prejudging the board based on your imagination rather than examining the content of the board. There're a number of posters who complain constantly about this. But, don't let facts or the search for facts interrupt your pre-planned whinging about how victimized you are. Please do go on with your rant.herrwolf said:Another thing, what about muslims that hate white, christian, jew or what ever else their is to hate. How come we never throw stones at them.
This is an example of argumentum ad ignorantiam, in particular, the false dilemma fallacy. Unless you are omniscient, your ignorance of something doesn't mean anything other than that you're ignorant of it.herrwolf said:The point that I'm trying to make is that I never hear the philippic fire storm against anybody but white sepremacists.
Don't really know what this is?"non-racial supremacist" I've ever encountered on the web makes this claim
No, I've got a great idea of exactly what I'm talking about. Why do you ask?herrwolf said:Don't really know what this is?
Because I don't know what your talking about!!!Why do you ask
This is a terrible example of argumentum ad ignorantiam.This is an example of argumentum ad ignorantiam, in particular, the false dilemma fallacy. Unless you are omniscient, your ignorance of something doesn't mean anything other than that you're ignorant of it.
If you don't know, why'd you ask me if I knew?herrwolf said:Because I don't know what your talking about!!!
You're not required to respond to my posts. If there's anything about them that makes you feel uncomfortable, feel free to put me on your ignore list.herrwolf said:So go back to your beltway until we call for more of you inanities.
You're not required to respond to my posts. If there's anything about them that makes you feel uncomfortable, feel free to put me on your ignore list.
I'm not so arrogant to tell someone that they are wrong about what they believe. You are, after all, the final arbiter and world's foremost authority on what you think and beliveherrwolf said:Oh I get it, you were calling me a racist! Why didn't you come out and say it?
^That's the kind of liberal whining I expected to hear.^herrwolf said:That's the kind of liberal categorizing I'm used to.
If you consider "That's the kind of liberal categorizing I'm used to" whining then your the biggest effeminate mollycoddler I've ever talked to. I have to say that your posts are confusing and lackluster at best. I read your profile, it says your conservative, I find that very hard to believe! Al Gore is more conservative than you are. Let me sum up by asking you a question. How in the hell did you become a moderator? The next time you point that dirty finger of accusation, have some sort of substance please!That's the kind of liberal whining I expected to hear
shuamort said:OK, but as you see, from the post from Aryan Imperium, it only begets more of this, well, crap.
shuamort said:Anybody who thinks that one race is better than another is an idiot. Plain and simple. If you think you're going to be able to get through with wise words, eloquent points and irrefutable facts, you're in for a long hard row. Something tells me that you haven't enough internet debating experience with these kinds of mental midgets to know better. Good luck if you think you know better than I though!
Simon W. Moon said:You've conflated two disparate things in a muddled way.
The element that you manage to miss so well that one should suspect that you have artfully dodged it on purpose is that the law makes no mention of nor was intended to reference any such things as a "natural hierarchy" or as a "natural aristocracy." The laws about equal rights pertain to the law. Equal rights before the law.
A lack of equality before the law thwarts and perverts the natural aristocracy among men.
No contradiction at all. The OP and your posts? Why, they're all crap.Aryan Imperium said:Very "tolerant" of you. So you describe alternative views to the ones that you hold as being "crap" and have the temerity of criticising the quality of the opening post.Do you not see the contradiction there?
One what basis are you contending that the assertion that races are of unequal value is "idiotic"? Surely it is the one lesson of nature?
Nowhere in the natural world is "equality" realised and are humans not part of the natural world?
Does simply making the statement "all men are equal" and repeating it over and over again as a mantra make it any more valid?
If you contend that races are "equal" do you also believe that individuals are as well? What is your evidence for this and how do you explain everyday examples of superior achievement in sports,the arts and acadaemia?
The obsession with equality betrays an underlying self-loathing.
You're the biggest effeminate mollycoddler I've ever talked to.herrwolf said:If you consider "That's the kind of liberal categorizing I'm used to" whining then your [sic] the biggest effeminate mollycoddler I've ever talked to.
I have to say that your posts don't even rise to the level of being confusing and lackluster.herrwolf said:I have to say that your posts are confusing and lackluster at best.
You pretend you're conservative, I find that very hard to believe!herrwolf said:I read your profile, it says your [sic] conservative, I find that very hard to believe!
Ward Churchill is more conservative than you are.herrwolf said:Al Gore is more conservative than you are.
The ususal way.herrwolf said:Let me sum up by asking you a question. How in the hell did you become a moderator?
I'm clean and serene. No substances for me. Thanks though.herrwolf said:The next time you point that dirty finger of accusation, have some sort of substance please!
Perhaps you should provide an example of what you're talking about. ISTM, that equal rights can only refer to rights in re the law.Aryan Imperium said:On the contrary,the laws in most white countries have in recent decades gone beyond the concept of "equality before the law"[which I concede is a seperate issue"] to introducing legislation which outlaws people receiving unequal treatment on the grounds of race[and frequently these days on grounds of religion and gender too].
In effect through the introduction of "equality/equal rights legislation"[a distinction that you conveniently ignore] the concept of human levelling[attempted originally through xtianity and bolshevism] has begun.
Human beings are in their natural environment and are behaving as humans naturally do. To attempt to draw some sort of distinction between natural and artificial re human behavior is not very meaningful. There has been no outside force like extraterrestrials acting upon humans. We've decided to do the myriad things that we have done.Aryan Imperium said:The point that I am making in defence of Rob is that nature unlike the politically indoctrinated does not recognise any notions of equality and indeed only hierarchy is acknowledged.
There are a lot of things wrong with that. But probably not the bigoted thoughts I get the feeling that you're having.tr1414 said:What about the fact that blacks make up less then 17% of the US pop. but over 80% of the US jail pop. Something is very wrong with that.
[sarcasm]You're absolutely right! It's so much easier and efficient just to hate people. [/sarcasm]tr1414 said:As for tolerance & PC.... it might get us all killed.
When you feel like taking off the white sheet and joining the rest of society, please let us know. As for right now, it's a damn shame your mom didn't swallow.tr1414 said:When we can't profile when we know who to look for but in the name of PC we can't. It's just a matter of time before the head-choppers hit us again. But maybe that would please the Ward Churchhill's among us.
shuamort said:There are a lot of things wrong with that. But probably not the bigoted thoughts I get the feeling that you're having.
[sarcasm]You're absolutely right! It's so much easier and efficient just to hate people. [/sarcasm]
When you feel like taking off the white sheet and joining the rest of society, please let us know. As for right now, it's a damn shame your mom didn't swallow.
shuamort said:There are a lot of things wrong with that. But probably not the bigoted thoughts I get the feeling that you're having.
[sarcasm]You're absolutely right! It's so much easier and efficient just to hate people. [/sarcasm]
When you feel like taking off the white sheet and joining the rest of society, please let us know. As for right now, it's a damn shame your mom didn't swallow.
Since when have I been a liberal? Is it because I'm not a racist against arabs? Is it because I'm not going to the KKK white sale at the local Walmart with you? Poor little tr1414, anything different from his myopic view of white america and he gets skeered.tr1414 said:Wow... this coming from "we love everyone" liberal.... this is so TYPICAL of the left.
I sure would have the balls to say that to your face. The problem is, I have no desire to go under the bridge to tell it to your troll face.tr1414 said:If your view is not the same as theirs... OUT COMES THE HATE. As for the what you said about my mother.... hey if that makes you feel better. But I think we both know that your a 'net punk that would never have the balls to say that to my face. Have fun hugging a head-chopper
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