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White House to paint grim fiscal picture: source



Maybe the Dems will take a play from the Repub playbook and exclude things from being counted in the budget. Repubs did. they claim Reagan cut spending..if you didn't count the military spending that is......LMAO If we don't count the stimulas or any social program spending then the budget should show a drop..lol
 


Dude, take off those partisan glasses for a sec.....You stated to me that the recession from the Clinton years started in Mar 01, and after doing some research, you came to that conclusion using NBER's numbers. However, you stopped there, a classic liberal mistake.

From 2004:



Ahem!


j-mac
 
.....You stated to me that the recession from the Clinton years started in Mar 01



j-mac

Nope I stated that Repubs are trying to re-write history. It never was a Clinton Recession but a Bush recession. The first of 2....
 
Donald Luskin???The same fool who writes for the rightwinged National Review??? Hardly credible.
 
Donald Luskin???The same fool who writes for the rightwinged National Review??? Hardly credible.


Argumentum Ad-hominem, Sorry, try again. Another article from March of 2001:




j-mac
 
ummm Newsmax???? really? Charles R Smith..lol

[ame=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newsmax_Media]Newsmax Media - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[/ame]

who will you quote next? the Drudge Report, Redstate.com, Rush????
 


There was no Recession? Then why did Bush and Repubs claim there was a Clinton recession? Bush left office pointing a finger and Repubs still do...AWESOME NEWS!!!!! There was no Clinton Recession!!!!!!!.
 
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A recession involves more than two consecutive quarters of economic contraction. This did not happen on 2001.

Well by the standard textbook definition, we haven't had two consecutive quarters of economic contraction under Obama's watch either. He was sworn in in the middle of Q1, we had negative growth in Q2, and we were back in black in Q3.
 
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Do any of you folks who are blaming Obama for the deficit have any actual solutions for what we can DO to prevent the deficit from ballooning over the next decade? I'm not talking about fanciful solutions like abolish all entitlement spending overnight. It's not going to happen, and even suggesting it just shows that you are unwilling to even consider realistic solutions. Nor am I talking about trivial solutions like earmark reform, which will have almost no effect on the budget. Actual solutions, please.

I suggested entitlement reform (specifically health care) to get our deficit under control, and was attacked from the right by two separate posters, one of whom criticized me for not wanting to immediately abolish all of them, and the other of whom dismissed it as even being a problem.
 
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Do any of you folks who are blaming Obama for the deficit have any actual solutions for what we can DO to prevent the deficit from ballooning over the next decade?
Yes. Cut spending. A lot of it.
 
Answering-The-Question-Instead-Of-Boilerplate-Rhetoric Fail.

He can't. As a DittoHead he believes that all this is the Dems fault for being spendthrifts..Little does he realize that Reagan and Bush jr were 2 of our biggest spenders.
 
Answering-The-Question-Instead-Of-Boilerplate-Rhetoric Fail.
Just because you don't like the answer doesnt make the answer illegitmate or incorrect.
 
He can't. As a DittoHead he believes that all this is the Dems fault for being spendthrifts..Little does he realize that Reagan and Bush jr were 2 of our biggest spenders.
And your Messiah (or maybe, your Massa') wiull run up more debt in less than three years than GWB did in 8.

But, as your Messiah, you excuse Him.
 
And your Messiah (or maybe, your Massa') wiull run up more debt in less than three years than GWB did in 8.

But, as your Messiah, you excuse Him.

Jesus Christ is running up debt? News to me..unlike Repubs I don't count a Politician as a Messiah, another weak tactic from the far right who assumed that since they worship Reagan that the Dems must worship their people as well. I worship Jesus Christ...sorry..Reagan died but Jesus lives..
 
Jesus Christ is running up debt? News to me..unlike Repubs I don't count a Politician as a Messiah...
Stop lying to yourself -- your continued defense of The Obama speaks plainly enough.

For every $1 of debt run up by GWB, The Obama is running up $2.75.
 
That's a stupid ignorant statement.

The Depression was caused by Woodrow Wilson and the Federal Reserve.

When you learn enough history to admit this fact, come back.

When you learn something about economics and history, come back. The recession was caused by speculative debt, Florida real estate bubble, and multiple droughts. The depression was caused by a most serious backward monetary policy in which the Fed decreased the money supply coupled with the fact that monetary velocity (spending) declined substantially.

Bless your little scarecrow heart:2wave:
 
Just because you don't like the answer doesnt make the answer illegitmate or incorrect.

"Cut spending" is a two-cent answer. I'm asking what spending you would cut and how, given political and economic realities (as opposed to how things would be in Ronpaultopia). And don't say "all of it." That's just stupid.
 
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Stop lying to yourself -- your continued defense of The Obama speaks plainly enough.

For every $1 of debt run up by GWB, The Obama is running up $2.75.

Why are tax revenues down? Why have specific expenditures (unemployment) increased?

Give it time, i believe it will come to you....
 
Why are tax revenues down? Why have specific expenditures (unemployment) increased?

Give it time, i believe it will come to you....

Because taxes are to high duh. LOL J/K
 
Because taxes are to high duh. LOL J/K

Taxes are not too high. At 35% they are at near record lows. Even if they go back to Clinton era rates of 39.6% they will still be lower then most of our past..Taxes are a weak excuse for failures to blame something or someone other then themselves for not being a success...
 
"Cut spending" is a two-cent answer. I'm asking what spending you would cut and how, given political and economic realities (as opposed to how things would be in Ronpaultopia). And don't say "all of it." That's just stupid.
"All if it" is a perfectly legitimate answer.
But, I will be more specific:
First, eliminate the spending that provides people the means to exercise their rights. If anything is needed after that, then cut anything that does not go directly towards protecting the rights of the people.
 
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