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White House seeks to transfer two Gitmo prisoners to Algeria

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The Department of Defense has notified Congress of its intention to return two Guantanamo Bay detainees to their homeland of Algeria, the White House said Friday.






“Today the Department of Defense certified to Congress its intent to repatriate an additional two detainees to Algeria,” White House press secretary Jay Carney said in a statement. “We are taking this step in consultation with the Congress, and in a responsible manner that protects our national security.”


Read more: White House seeks to transfer two Gitmo prisoners to Algeria - The Hill's DEFCON Hill

Two down! Many more to go!
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Watch the teabaggers demagogue this as "soft on terrorism" and then crow that Obama hasn't kept his promise to close Gitmo, even though it was GOP demagoguery that kept it open.
 

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I'm a little confused. That doesn't sound like release, nor does it sound like these people are charged with any offense under Algerian law. Are these people going to be protected in Algeria, or are we just handing them over so someone else can abuse them and we keep our hands clean?
 

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I'm a little confused. That doesn't sound like release, nor does it sound like these people are charged with any offense under Algerian law. Are these people going to be protected in Algeria, or are we just handing them over so someone else can abuse them and we keep our hands clean?
Thats what im wondering too.. I dont know if they are gonna be thrown right in jail once they get to Algeria (if they are actually ever officially released) or are they gonna be able to try to return to their normal lives.
 

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If we had intelligent people running our government, we would microchip GITMO detainees (unknowing to them) and allow them to lead us to terror cells.

Of course democrats would be opposed to such a clever trick while they call for Snowdens head on a pike.
 

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If we had intelligent people running our government, we would microchip GITMO detainees (unknowing to them) and allow them to lead us to terror cells.

Of course democrats would be opposed to such a clever trick while they call for Snowdens head on a pike.
Doesnt sound very "libertarian" of you.
 

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I'm a little confused. That doesn't sound like release, nor does it sound like these people are charged with any offense under Algerian law. Are these people going to be protected in Algeria, or are we just handing them over so someone else can abuse them and we keep our hands clean?

“We are taking this step in consultation with the Congress, and in a responsible manner that protects our national security.”
sounds to me like they will be detained there for a bit and probably released when nobody is looking.
 

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Doesnt sound very "libertarian" of you.
Well, GITMO detainees aren't US citizens. Our constitution and Bill of Rights doesn't apply to them.

I'm a libertarian because I defend the ideas our founding fathers manifested and I don't allow alternative opinions/ideas cloud what our founding fathers envisioned as a society..

Other nations can do whatever the **** they want - it's up to their populace to revolt/coup or legislate their civil rights.
 
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Well, GITMO detainees aren't US citizens. Our constitution and Bill of Rights doesn't apply to them.
I see so you're all about "Life, love, liberty, understanding, knowledge, Wisdom" for people as long as they came out of a ***** within your borders that were created by murder, racism and slavery.

Got it.
 

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I see so you're all about "Life, love, liberty, understanding, knowledge, Wisdom" for people as long as they came out of a ***** within your borders that were created by murder, racism and slavery.

Got it.
Look, it's up to the people in other nations if they want civil liberties.

The only way civil liberties can mean anything to anyone is if they fight for them.... Those that are truly oppressed need to earn their civil liberties from governments that oppress them with an authoritarian or totalitarian hand.

We did that here in the US, hence our constitution and Bill of Rights.
 

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Look, it's up to the people in other nations if they want civil liberties.

The only way civil liberties can mean anything to anyone is if they fight for them.... Those that are truly oppressed need to earn their civil liberties from governments that oppress them with an authoritarian or totalitarian hand.

We did that here in the US, hence our constitution and Bill of Rights.
That addresses nothing I've said.

Your government is the one violating peoples rights.

And you support it simply because they came out of a ***** in a different country.

That's what I'd like you to address.
 

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That addresses nothing I've said.

Your government is the one violating peoples rights.

And you support it simply because they came out of a ***** in a different country.

That's what I'd like you to address.
I don't support "my" government.... An hour ago I posted in a different thread that our government is essentially evil.

IMO, most politicians have this "us vs the people" mentality - that's why they spy on us - because they're paranoid knowing they would get their asses kicked in a revolt because they know they have no defense - our government is generally a bunch of retards who have the personality flaw of believing they know whats best for average guys like me.
 

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I don't support "my" government.... An hour ago I posted in a different thread that our government is essentially evil.

IMO, most politicians have this "us vs the people" mentality - that's why they spy on us - because they're paranoid knowing they would get their asses kicked in a revolt because they know they have no defense - our government is generally a bunch of retards who have the personality flaw of believing they know whats best for average guys like me.
So government is evil and you're against it... just not when they violate the fundamental human rights of foreign citizens.

Are you ever consistent or do you make it up as you go along?
 

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That addresses nothing I've said.

Your government is the one violating peoples rights.

And you support it simply because they came out of a ***** in a different country.

That's what I'd like you to address.
Politicians violate peoples rights..

We already have a Bill of Rights which is pretty much being ignored.

I don't believe everyone can responsibly handle freedom, however those that can shouldn't be burdened by those who can't.

I think the founding fathers of the United States believed that individuals were on par with their intelligence and motivation... I don't believe they envisioned all this nonsense we call "politics."

Our founding libertarian fathers would turn in their grave over how their words have been manipulated for personal partisan political gain.

I don't know what the hell to tell you however, understanding goes a long way...
 

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So government is evil and you're against it... just not when they violate the fundamental human rights of foreign citizens.

Are you ever consistent or do you make it up as you go along?
Government is an institution that allows evil...

Only a sociopath would want to be a politician... Legislating is in fact forcing an individuals ideas on others.

These idiots are paid to make law. What happens when there is no more ideas to ban or regulate?

In essence were becoming totalitarian with every passed piece of legislation.

The only damn thing we have as a nation is our civil liberties outlined in the Bill of Rights and even the Bill of Rights is being overlooked.

90% of politicians don't give a **** about the Bill of Rights and then paint those that do as "kooks." Of course these same clowns will run to the Bill of Rights or constitution if it backs their agenda.

So yeah, government is evil.

I would love to say that to congress.

Reality check...
 

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Well, GITMO detainees aren't US citizens. Our constitution and Bill of Rights doesn't apply to them.

I'm a libertarian because I defend the ideas our founding fathers manifested and I don't allow alternative opinions/ideas cloud what our founding fathers envisioned as a society..

Other nations can do whatever the **** they want - it's up to their populace to revolt/coup or legislate their civil rights.
Self-evidence - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
 

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So government is evil and you're against it... just not when they violate the fundamental human rights of foreign citizens.

Are you ever consistent or do you make it up as you go along?
He makes it up as he goes along.

He's a libertarian who thinks some people don't get any rights, and favors big government when it helps him, which is really a Republican.
 

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He makes it up as he goes along.

He's a libertarian who thinks some people don't get any rights, and favors big government when it helps him, which is really a Republican.
Don't speak on behalf of me.

I don't give a **** how you interpret my ideas however I can speak for myself.

If you have a question about my ideology you can ask me but your interpretation is unnecessary.
 

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Well, GITMO detainees aren't US citizens. Our constitution and Bill of Rights doesn't apply to them.

I'm a libertarian because I defend the ideas our founding fathers manifested and I don't allow alternative opinions/ideas cloud what our founding fathers envisioned as a society..

Other nations can do whatever the **** they want - it's up to their populace to revolt/coup or legislate their civil rights.
So if they arent US citizens then we can just be authoritative big brother ass holes to the rest of the world?
 
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