White House admits fault on 'Mission Accomplished' banner

[Iriemon]

Could someone take away aquapub's use of smilies and clapping hands. I think we can all agree he is abusing the privilege.

I don't know. I crack up just about everytime I read one of his posts.

 

[aquapub]

I didn't know that Mark Foley, Larry Craig, Jeff Gannon, Ted Haggard, Lawrence Franklin, Jon Matthews, John Atchison, Donald Fleishman, Matthew Joseph Elliott, John Bryan, Ted Klaudt, Joseph Monteleone Jr., Jeffrey Nielson, Patrick Lee McGuire, Larry Corrigan, Jeffrey Kyle Randall, Brent Schepp, Randall Casseday, Lou Beres, Larry Dale Floyd, Mark Pazuhanich, Bobby Stumbo, Tom Randall, Armando Tebano, John Collins, Mark Siedensticker, Philip Giordano, Tom Adams, John Gosek, David Swartz, Edison Misla Aldarondo, John R. Curtain, Howard Scott Heldreth, Dennis L. Rader, Nicholas Morency, Tom Shortridge, Strom Thurmond, Mike Hintz, Peter Dibble, Carey Lee Cramer, Lawrence E. King, Craig J. Spence, Donald "Buz" Lukens, Richard A. Delgaudio, Mark A. Grethen, Randal David Ankeney, and many others described here (at least 200 more of them) were Liberals.

Um...we were talking about liberals protecting pedophiles, not being pedophiles...not that there aren't just as many left-wing pedophiles (or even more). Posting a list of less than .001% of Republicans, the ones identified as sexually deviant in some way, in no way establishes that the left doesn't protect and embrace pedophiles at every turn, often under the guise of free speech, which they routinely trample elsewhere.

Try again.

I've noticed the whole forum's far-right overly depends on emoticons.

I've noticed liberals here are easily-intimidated by them. Just look at how many liberals are derailing this debate to issue offended little taunts to get me to stop using them.

Very telling. :lol:

Now how about we get back to this debunked Mission Accomplished "controversy" invented by our persistently partisan media.

 

[BWG]

The removal of Saddam's regime is over, which was what the Mission Accomplished banner was referring to, obviously.

Just how obvious is it?

After shifting explanations, the White House eventually said the "Mission Accomplished" phrase referred to the carrier's crew completing its 10-month mission, not the military completing its mission in Iraq.

-First the White House claimed that the banner was the Navy's idea, it had nothing to do with it -- the sailors just wanted to celebrate their own homecoming, no more than that.

-When word emerged that the White House had actually made the banner, a spokesman explained, well, the Navy was not cut out for that sort of thing so we produced it -- but it was still all the sailors' idea!

-Okay, the White House admitted, we not only made it, we hoisted it -- but still, it was for the sailors!

-Time magazine later quoted some long-time Bush aides: "They (the White House) put up banners at every event that look just like that and we're supposed to believe that at this one it was the Navy that requested one?" Other insiders recalled staffers boasting about how the president had been specifically positioned during his speech so that the banner would be captured by cameras.

Ain't it a bitch when even the people you're defending disagrees with you...:lol:

 

[DeeJayH]

I didn't know that Mark Foley, Larry Craig, Jeff Gannon, Ted Haggard, Lawrence Franklin, Jon Matthews, John Atchison, Donald Fleishman, Matthew Joseph Elliott, John Bryan, Ted Klaudt, Joseph Monteleone Jr., Jeffrey Nielson, Patrick Lee McGuire, Larry Corrigan, Jeffrey Kyle Randall, Brent Schepp, Randall Casseday, Lou Beres, Larry Dale Floyd, Mark Pazuhanich, Bobby Stumbo, Tom Randall, Armando Tebano, John Collins, Mark Siedensticker, Philip Giordano, Tom Adams, John Gosek, David Swartz, Edison Misla Aldarondo, John R. Curtain, Howard Scott Heldreth, Dennis L. Rader, Nicholas Morency, Tom Shortridge, Strom Thurmond, Mike Hintz, Peter Dibble, Carey Lee Cramer, Lawrence E. King, Craig J. Spence, Donald "Buz" Lukens, Richard A. Delgaudio, Mark A. Grethen, Randal David Ankeney, and many others described here (at least 200 more of them) were Liberals.

I knew that they were Republicans, I knew that they were convicted of child molestation, homosexual sex in public bathrooms, solicitation of homosexual prostitutes, and the like, but I didn't know that they were Liberals. Thank you for clearing that up for me. :rofl

i find it very scary that this is what you choose to store in your memory :shock:

i prefer filing my memory with porn, whores and good times:mrgreen:

 

[aquapub]

Just how obvious is it?

After the evidence posted by American Woman, showing Bush in his own words on the carrier, demonstrating that he knew full well the rebuilding mission was far from over, it is completely obvious.

Bush:

We have difficult work to do in Iraq. We are bringing order to parts of that country that remain dangerous. We are pursuing and finding leaders of the old regime, who will be held to account for their crimes. We have begun the search for hidden chemical and biological weapons, and already know of hundreds of sites that will be investigated. We are helping to rebuild Iraq, where the dictator built palaces for himself, instead of hospitals and schools. And we will stand with the new leaders of Iraq as they establish a government of, by, and for the Iraqi people. The transition from dictatorship to democracy will take time, but it is worth every effort. Our coalition will stay until our work is done. And then we will leave — and we will leave behind a free Iraq.

The Battle of Iraq is one victory in a war on terror that began on September the 11th, 2001, and still goes on. That terrible morning, 19 evil men — the shock troops of a hateful ideology — gave America and the civilized world a glimpse of their ambitions. They imagined, in the words of one terrorist, that September the 11th would be the "beginning of the end of America." By seeking to turn our cities into killing fields, terrorists and their allies believed that they could destroy this nation's resolve, and force our retreat from the world. They have failed.

Our mission continues. Al-Qaida is wounded, not destroyed. The scattered cells of the terrorist network still operate in many nations, and we know from daily intelligence that they continue to plot against free people. The proliferation of deadly weapons remains a serious danger. The enemies of freedom are not idle, and neither are we. Our government has taken unprecedented measures to defend the homeland — and we will continue to hunt down the enemy before he can strike.

The war on terror is not over, yet it is not endless. We do not know the day of final victory, but we have seen the turning of the tide. No act of the terrorists will change our purpose, or weaken our resolve, or alter their fate. Their cause is lost. Free nations will press on to victory.

After shifting explanations, the White House eventually said the "Mission Accomplished" phrase referred to the carrier's crew completing its 10-month mission, not the military completing its mission in Iraq.

-First the White House claimed that the banner was the Navy's idea, it had nothing to do with it -- the sailors just wanted to celebrate their own homecoming, no more than that.

-When word emerged that the White House had actually made the banner, a spokesman explained, well, the Navy was not cut out for that sort of thing so we produced it -- but it was still all the sailors' idea!

-Okay, the White House admitted, we not only made it, we hoisted it -- but still, it was for the sailors!

-Time magazine later quoted some long-time Bush aides: "They (the White House) put up banners at every event that look just like that and we're supposed to believe that at this one it was the Navy that requested one?" Other insiders recalled staffers boasting about how the president had been specifically positioned during his speech so that the banner would be captured by cameras.

Hence my argument in post 4, that Bush should not have cowered to such bogus partisan newsmedia inventions as this carrier landing "controversy."

Ain't it a bitch when even the people you're defending disagrees with you...:lol:

Ain't it a bitch when you taunt people only to find out the record proves you wrong? :lol:

 

[John1234]

Is this the first time Bush has ever admitted making a mistake of any kind?

 

[jfuh]

Is this the first time Bush has ever admitted making a mistake of any kind?

He did? His administration has a speaker that does, but I don't think you'd ever hear him admitting any err.

 

[mpg]

The banner was obviously correct. This apology is the stupidest thing that Bush ever did.

 

[aquapub]

He did? His administration has a speaker that does, but I don't think you'd ever hear him admitting any err.

Bush and his administration both admit to errors all the time, many of which aren't even errors, like saying "mistakes were made" in reference to the partisan media-invented "scandal" about Gonzales and the firing of federal prosecutors, like his ridiculous concessions on Democrat policy failures in New Orleans, like his "Saddam had no WMD" misstatement, etc.

Bush is one of those Republicans who hurts the party by being easily-intimidated by bogus left-wing witchhunts and hysteria. WWRD?

 

[Hatuey]

like his "Saddam had no WMD" misstatement, etc.

Don't forget. Cheney said it too.

Bush, Cheney Concede Saddam Had No WMDs

WASHINGTON (AP) - President Bush and his vice president conceded Thursday in the clearest terms yet that Saddam Hussein had no weapons of mass destruction, even as they tried to shift the Iraq war debate to a new issue — whether the invasion was justified because Saddam was abusing a U.N. oil-for-food program

George Tenet also brought it up in 2002 while he was still in the administration :

Salon.com | Bush knew Saddam had no weapons of mass destruction

CIA director George Tenet briefed President Bush in the Oval Office on top-secret intelligence that Saddam Hussein did not have weapons of mass destruction, according to two former senior CIA officers. Bush dismissed as worthless this information from the Iraqi foreign minister, a member of Saddam's inner circle, although it turned out to be accurate in every detail. Tenet never brought it up again.

Richard Boucher(State Dept.) also said the WMD search yielded no results.

CNN.com - Official: U.S. calls off search for Iraqi WMDs - Jan 12, 2005

State Department spokesman Richard Boucher said though the search for WMD yielded no results, the United States, based on "extensive intelligence," believed before it invaded Iraq that Saddam was intent on acquiring them.

I guess all these people were simply misstating.

 

[danarhea]

pedophiles, not

Um...we were talking about liberals protecting pedophiles, not being pedophiles...not that there aren't just as many left-wing pedophiles (or even more). Posting a list of less than .001% of Republicans, the ones identified as sexually deviant in some way, in no way establishes that the left doesn't protect and embrace pedophiles at every turn, often under the guise of free speech, which they routinely trample elsewhere.

Try again.



I've noticed liberals here are easily-intimidated by them. Just look at how many liberals are derailing this debate to issue offended little taunts to get me to stop using them.

Very telling. :lol:

Now how about we get back to this debunked Mission Accomplished "controversy" invented by our persistently partisan media.

I see, you mean how Dennis Hastert protected Mark Foley? I didn't know that Hastert was a Liberal either. Thank you for clearing that up for me too. Damn, according to you, the Republican party is chock full of those child molesting Liberals, not to mention all those Liberal Republican enablers of child molesters. Tis a scary party, isn't it?

 

[aquapub]

Don't forget. Cheney[, George Tenet, Richard Boucher] knew it too...I guess all these people were simply misstating.

Considering all the WMD we found there, even after giving Saddam 9 months to get rid of the evidence while we publicly debated invading, I would have to say the only logical answer to this question is yes.

It's the maddening, politically spineless trademark of the Bush Administration: Make concessions you have no reason to make, and apologize for things you were right about.

I see, you mean how Dennis Hastert protected Mark Foley? I didn't know that Hastert was a Liberal either. Thank you for clearing that up for me too. Damn, according to you, the Republican party is chock full of those child molesting Liberals, not to mention all those Liberal Republican enablers of child molesters. Tis a scary party, isn't it?

I think I'd rather address the fact that you just lied and then address your crappy logic regarding this lie.

First, Hastert never protected Foley. It was brought to Hastert's attention that Foley had sent a completely non-sexual email to one of his pages. Hastert brought Foley in, Instructed him to stop sending emails of any kind, and he did. Later, Foley sent an instant message to a page with graphic sexual content.

This was not Hastert protecting anyone. This was our partisan media inventing yet another election year "Republican scandal" out of thin air.

2nd, even if you weren't lying about Hastert here, you would still be trying to claim that since one Republican protected a pedophile, it must be invalid to point out that Democrats widly protect pedophiles at every turn, in every way.

Nice try. :bs