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While we're talking about honoring black people...

Should Malcolm X have appeared on a U.S. postage stamp?

  • An outrage.

    Votes: 10 55.6%
  • Probably not.

    Votes: 3 16.7%
  • Probably should have.

    Votes: 1 5.6%
  • Certainly.

    Votes: 4 22.2%

  • Total voters
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Deegan

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I said no, but I do think he made some serious changes at the end of his life, but he divided blacks and whites, not brought them together.
 
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Deegan said:
I said no, but I do think he made some serious changes at the end of his life, but he divided blacks and whites, not brought them together.
Well in that case he gets my vote!:2razz:
 

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Aryan Imperium said:
Well in that case he gets my vote!:2razz:
Yet another disturbed post from our resident village idiot. What is it in your psyche that makes you so divisive and causes you to take such glee in being a reject of society? Do you not realize that your very presence on this earth disturbs humanity and creates a blight on our collective consciousness?
 

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jallman said:
Yet another disturbed post from our resident village idiot. What is it in your psyche that makes you so divisive and causes you to take such glee in being a reject of society? Do you not realize that your very presence on this earth disturbs humanity and creates a blight on our collective consciousness?
you do realize you're playing right into the palm of his hand ?
 

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128shot said:
you do realize you're playing right into the palm of his hand ?
bah, demoralizing and smacking on nazis is just a past time when I am waiting for a more serious post to come along. It is always a pleasure to take a pot shot at pig boy and let him know where he stands. I mean, for the most part, I love that guy...he is almost cartoonish...every time I read his posts I just picture some fat, balding, greasy bellied guy in a splooge stained leiderhosen, sniffing eva braun's panties and jerking off to young nazi boy porn on the internet between posts. Is it my imagination...or some kind of clairvoyance? I havent decided yet. :2wave:
 

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I think putting Malcolm X on a stamp would be the equavilant to putting David Duke on a stamp.
 

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jamesrage said:
I think putting Malcolm X on a stamp would be the equavilant to putting David Duke on a stamp.
I couldnt agree with you more. Honoring any type of racism, be it from a Klansman, a Black Panther, or a disgusting pig boy Nazi is not the American ideal we should be presenting.
 

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jamesrage said:
I think putting Malcolm X on a stamp would be the equavilant to putting David Duke on a stamp.
The difference between the two is Malcolm X changed profoundly after he saw what his religion was supposed to mean. The Nation of Islam in this country filled their follower's heads with the propaganda that they wanted them to believe. The followers thought their organization's leader was infallible, angelic, they almost worshipped him. This happens to people in all religions-remember the Jim Jones thing? Look at Benny Hinn, some think a wave of his coat cures cancer. He sells snake oil.

Anyway, because Malcolm broke from the NOI, and stopped hating Whitey so much, the NOI killed him. He would have taken way too much attention away from them.

I am white, was brought up in the sixties and seventies in Memphis, Tennessee, where Martin Luther King Jr. was killed, there was always racial tension, and I was taught to be a prejudiced bigot. I know exactly how hard it is to change from that mindset. It had to be a lot harder for this guy.

You're asking me "Didn't you say that now you accept white men as
brothers?" Well, my answer is that in the Muslim world, I saw, I
felt, and I wrote home how my thinking was broadened! Just as I
wrote, I shared true, brotherly love with many white-complexioned
Muslims who never gave a single thought to the race, or to the
complexion, of another Muslim.

My pilgrimage broadened my scope. It blessed me with a new insight.
In two weeks in the Holy Land, I saw what I never had seen in
thirty-nine years here in America. I saw all races, all colors,
-- blue-eyed blonds to black-skinned Africans -- in true brotherhood!
In unity! Living as one! Worshipping as one! No segregationists -- no
liberals; they would not have known how to interpret the meaning of
those words.

In the past, yes, I have made sweeping indictments of all white people.
I will never be guilty of that again -- as I know now that some white
people are truly sincere, that some truly are capable of being
brotherly toward a black man. The true Islam has shown me that a
blanket indictment of all white people is as wrong as when whites
make blanket indictments against blacks.



www.colostate.edu
 

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The difference between the two is Malcolm X changed profoundly after he saw what his religion was supposed to mean. The Nation of Islam in this country filled their follower's heads with the propaganda that they wanted them to believe.
More than likely Malcolm X would be honored for racism not for his change of heart.While Martin Luther King Jr. was trying to bring the races together,Malcolm X busy trying to keep the races seperated.
 

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Anyway, because Malcolm broke from the NOI, and stopped hating Whitey so much, the NOI killed him.
A postage stamp in his honor, just because at the end he lost his racism. Pretty low standards for honoring someone. Malcom X spent his whole life saying the most vile things imaginable against whites. When an airliner crashed in california in 1962, he said "125 whites dying is a beautiful thing". During WWII, he wasn't drafted because of his previous criminal record. Instead, he spent WWII robbing the houses of servicemen who were overseas fighting. He'd probably get a huge laugh over the stamp. No ifs, the stamp is a total outrage.
 

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alphamale said:
A postage stamp in his honor, just because at the end he lost his racism. Pretty low standards for honoring someone. Malcom X spent his whole life saying the most vile things imaginable against whites. When an airliner crashed in california in 1962, he said "125 whites dying is a beautiful thing". During WWII, he wasn't drafted because of his previous criminal record. Instead, he spent WWII robbing the houses of servicemen who were overseas fighting. He'd probably get a huge laugh over the stamp. No ifs, the stamp is a total outrage.
White people robbed houses during WWII also. He went to prison for the crimes. Then, in prison, he tried to better himself, and he kept trying for the rest of his life.

Picture yourself growing up in a country controlled by black people. You're growing up in a time when they are in charge, they own everything, you can't drink water at their fountains, can't eat at their nice restaurants. Your mother is raped by a black man, but the police won't arrest him. They tell you to simmer down, or they're going to arrest you. Black people everywhere, making the law, you just want fairness, an equal chance, some justice. What do you do, boy, just shut your mouth and take it? You hear a plane crashed and 125 of them 'darkies' just died. Don't you secretly enjoy it?
 

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Picture yourself growing up in a country controlled by black people. You're growing up in a time when they are in charge, they own everything, you can't drink water at their fountains, can't eat at their nice restaurants. Your mother is raped by a black man, but the police won't arrest him. They tell you to simmer down, or they're going to arrest you. Black people everywhere, making the law, you just want fairness, an equal chance, some justice. What do you do, boy, just shut your mouth and take it? You hear a plane crashed and 125 of them 'darkies' just died. Don't you secretly enjoy it?
Your logic is full of ****.Those 125 people have nothing to do with Malcolm X.The crimes of others does not entitle you to rob a perfect stranger.A racist would buy your argument,the blame a whole race for the crimes of a few individuals seems typical of a racist.
 

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jamesrage said:
Your logic is full of ****.Those 125 people have nothing to do with Malcolm X.The crimes of others does not entitle you to rob a perfect stranger.A racist would buy your argument,the blame a whole race for the crimes of a few individuals seems typical of a racist.
You brought the 125 up. My point is that if you were the person in my story, you would have said what he did long ago, about the 125 dying, "Good riddance." And I'm saying black people and white people robbed white people's houses during WWII, and for that matter, any other time. None of them were entitled. They were thieves.

Malcolm X was a racist, as many blacks, and many whites, were at that time. I made up the example above because you stated that he said the most vile things imaginable about white people. Why wouldn't he? He hated us (I am assuming you are white like me). When I was younger I said some of the most vile things about black people imaginable. Then at some point I realized how stupid that mindset was. So I changed it. He did too. If he hadn't been killed, he might still be preaching the right way.
 

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You brought the 125 up. My point is that if you were the person in my story,
Malcolm X was a racist.

Malcolm X was a racist, as many blacks, and many whites, were at that time. I made up the example above because you stated that he said the most vile things imaginable about white people. Why wouldn't he?
He was one of those racist who blamed a whole entire race for the actions of a few.
When I was younger I said some of the most vile things about black people imaginable.
I guess that explains your insite into a mind of a racist.


Then at some point I realized how stupid that mindset was. So I changed it. He did too. If he hadn't been killed, he might still be preaching the right way.
Perhaps you are right.
 

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He went to prison for the crimes. Then, in prison, he tried to better himself, and he kept trying for the rest of his life.
And for that he deserve's a postage stamp? Where's the bucket - I have to puke.
 

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You make a lot of people happy by putting him on a stamp. If it makes you angry don't buy the stamp and get a life. You white people can do more good for race relations by not sweating this trivial bullshit.

Suck it up cowboy, it's a small thing.


The preceding message paid for by a male W.A.S.P. who thinks X was a dick.
 

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teacher said:
You make a lot of people happy by putting him on a stamp. You white people can do more good for race relations by not sweating this trivial bullshit.
Distortion of history is NOT trivial - that's why liberals do it all the time.
 

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alphamale said:
Distortion of history is NOT trivial - that's why liberals do it all the time.
Right as usual, Mr. Hannity. And I sure enjoy your 3 hour commercial for the GOP on the radio every day.
 

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Malcom the Tenth on a stamp? How totally absurd. Who's next, Robert Byrd in his Grand Dragon of the Klan Uniform?

If the purpose is to honor terrorists and racists, I do suppose it's appropriate to put Malcom Little on a stamp. No one can name anything useful he did, though.

If the purpose is to sell stamps, I'm sure there's lots of Flavor-Aid drinkers that's buy it.

But, if honoring thugs is the goal, may I recommend Rodney King, OJ Simpson, and Calypso Louis Farrakhan to follow?
 

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Malcom the Tenth on a stamp? How totally absurd. Who's next, Robert Byrd in his Grand Dragon of the Klan Uniform?

If the purpose is to honor terrorists and racists, I do suppose it's appropriate to put Malcom Little on a stamp. No one can name anything useful he did, though.

If the purpose is to sell stamps, I'm sure there's lots of Flavor-Aid drinkers that's buy it.

But, if honoring thugs is the goal, may I recommend Rodney King, OJ Simpson, and Calypso Louis Farrakhan to follow?
Let's see, one, two, three, four...

Oh. Okay. At first I thought you were saying all thugs are black people. But, my bad, you prove yourself unbiased, you do name one white man.
 

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galenrox said:
Dude, that's one way to percieve things, but you could also say he strengthened them, mostly both.
He was a real hateful dude for most of his life, but I mean, christ, I'm sure we have a Christopher Columbus stamp, and there is NO WAY Malcom X was more hate filled than Columbus
He fought very hard to separate blacks from whites, we all now know that was not a good idea, for either race. He may have reached some folks, the rational, intelligent folks, but the ignorant, he sent those people back a hundred years.......or who was that you compared him to, Columbus, yeah, he probably set them back at least that far. Not a good comparison my friend, much different times, that kind of violence was still considered acceptable, and Columbus discovered America, that's all he should be remembered for, and some even doubt that!

He was a useful figure in those days, someone needed to stand up, but the hatred he instilled, that is so very prevalent, even today. His message was lost in anger, and the violence that preceded it, he could have been worthy of a stamp, but he took a wrong turn.
 

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jamesrage said:
I think putting Malcolm X on a stamp would be the equavilant to putting David Duke on a stamp.

Or Hitler or Stalin...........Malcom X was a rascist.......
 

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Deegan said:
He was a useful figure in those days, someone needed to stand up, but the hatred he instilled, that is so very prevalent, even today. His message was lost in anger, and the violence that preceded it, he could have been worthy of a stamp, but he took a wrong turn.
Think about it. There were twenty white people, maybe more, per black, instilling hatred publicly at that time. We didn't outnumber blacks by that much, but most of them were not as bold as the Malcolm X types, afraid they might be put in jail.

He was recruited by the Nation of Islam, and they despised whites, whites were the devil. He became disillusioned with them because he began to see that their great leader was a liar, among other things. So he formed his own group, went to Mecca, had an epiphany, and guess what? He came back, said he no longer hated the white man, and the Nation of Islam killed him. He was a racist, and when he changed, like very few of us do, he had very little time to show it.

Somebody below mentioned Robert Byrd, a member of Congress, who was a bigot, and if I'm not mistaken, a KKK member. He has been in Congress longer than most posters on this site have been alive. If he were an open member of the KKK today he could not get elected. He changed, right? He was not assassinated, given a second chance. Somebody mentioned David Duke, who will die white trash, and never redeem himself from the pathetic weakness he enjoys so much.

I think that all of the people who voted no on this poll are not black. Why does a black bigot bother white people so much (even one who gave racism up)? A bigot with no power (blacks are a small fraction of the population) shouldn't scare anybody.
 
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