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Which of you Conservatives/Republicans will take a CentGov handout?

but you'll still cash the handout check.

way to stick by your principals.

What principles are those? One can object to federal deficit spending and still be required to help pay interest on the national debt. The myth that we the people are somehow in charge of the federal government, by our ability to vote for (or against) 3 of the 535 congress critters, has been busted.
 
dude. do you really not know that when you either receive a refund or have to pay it's simply settling up a balance sheet? wow.



but, i do see how Trump, Hannity, Limbaugh and Fiscal Conservatives will now sell sucking off the CentGov teat (when times are hard) while exploding the National Debt.

really, really smart.

I have already paid them. it is called payroll taxes.
they are giving me my money back.

how do you not know this?

yet you didn't give your tax break back so we can write off your argument as more faux outrage.
 
for sure.


the fun part will be watching them justify it to themselves.

Yes, especially the part where they don't agree with the Fed income tax to begin with
 
Especially, when one doesn't agree with the progressive Fed income tax to begin with?

Who cares what one doesn't agree with?
 
a really good friend of mine was ORDERED to shut down his business

a business that has been going for 12 years.....has 110 employees, and has won award after award from the local community

now what pray tell was he supposed to have been getting ready for?

his sales exceed 6 million annually, but him and his wife take maybe 300k out of the business

how is he supposed to pay his employees....keep them going? pay his mortgages? his insurance?

maybe, just maybe think about what some of these business people are dealing with

or maybe those 110 employees really dont need a job, do they? is that your take? :shock:

democrats do not care about working people or their families.
they prove it every time they post crap like the OP does.
 
Actually they are giving me back most of the money that i have already paid them so i am not taking a hand out.
i am taking my money back.

did you return the tax cut money you received? if not why are you being hypocritical?



You provided your employer or the customers of your business a service for which you were paid. You then pay the govt for services provided to you. Call it what you want, this "handout" and all others are a service provided by the govt paid for by you and others. Period.
 
Nah... you can't suck off anything when you're just getting your hard earned money back

that's the way to sell your handout. you need to push that hard (although i'm sure Rush and Sean have you covered).


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If I am issued a check...unlikely due to my income...it will go into the savings in the bank and be used for next years taxes...because it is likely that it will be documented as 'income'. You will be shown as having an increase and have to include it on your taxes whether you tear it up or not.

But this is typical and not a little bit comical. Whenever a leftist is shown to have benefited by capitalism (say, Bernie Sanders millions for example), idiot leftists rush to defend that action claiming "so? He didnt break any laws!" But when the shoe is on the other foot...say with things like 'tax breaks' (and comically...idiot leftists call keeping your own money in tax breaks a 'handout' idiot leftists shriek see/ Socialism !!!

Which only goes to show that idiot leftists will pick the stupidest things to argue about, and they bleat about the word 'socialism' while not having a clue about what socialism is.

so, you will take the CentGov handout?

are you a fiscal conservative?
 
What principles are those? One can object to federal deficit spending and still be required to help pay interest on the national debt. The myth that we the people are somehow in charge of the federal government, by our ability to vote for (or against) 3 of the 535 congress critters, has been busted.

as you still cash the CentGov handout check.
 
that's the way to sell your handout. you need to push that hard (although i'm sure Rush and Sean have you covered).


National-debt-equal-to-national-economy.jpg

although i'm sure Rush and Sean have you covered).


No....

Funny how we had those early TP rallies and old Rush had to see "which way the wind was going to blow" first before he gave us any coverage
 
I have already paid them. it is called payroll taxes.
they are giving me my money back.

how do you not know this?

yet you didn't give your tax break back so we can write off your argument as more faux outrage.

you sound like some dude in Baltimore or Chicago.
 
so, you will take the CentGov handout?

are you a fiscal conservative?
Do you need someone to draw responses in crayon stick figure format for you to better understand them? Thats not an insult...just a question...so I can know how better to address you in the future.
 
Who cares what one doesn't agree with?

he's building the foundation to justify taking a CentGov handout (and thus calling it something else). pretty smart really. that way he can look at himself differently that some dude from Oakland.


what's funny is that a lot of our taxes go to soldiers, healthcare for seniors (tons of Republicans) and other stuff that Republicans benefit from. but they won't mention that.
 
You provided your employer or the customers of your business a service for which you were paid. You then pay the govt for services provided to you. Call it what you want, this "handout" and all others are a service provided by the govt paid for by you and others. Period.

but, if "fiscal conservatives" can say it's "unfair" to them personally then they can create an argument for themselves to take the handout ($$$$ from the Gov).

it's very smart. hell, i bet a ton of rich Republicans take that handout too.
 
Imagine our Founding Fathers saying that?

More opportunistic necrophilia, but ok. Read Washington's farewell address. He describes Dimbulb as a cautionary tale.
 
as you still cash the CentGov handout check.

I have been getting (and "cashing") Social Security retirement benefits every month since I became eligible to receive them. I have no objection, in principle, to taking an "entitlement" benefit which I was forced to support for over 40 years by paying FICA payroll taxes.

Why do you have no "principled" objection to congress paying COVID-19 "stimulus" benefits to federal employees (none of which lost a single dime in pay), yet feel that republicants (fiscal conservatives?) should not accept (or return?) them?
 
Yes, because the Tea party pub's were always a minority(wink)

...and totally silent since Republicans regained the Presidency and have exploded the debt.

you'd think maybe 12 would show up at some Tea Party rally.
 
...while texting, Facebooking, Message Boarding, Social Mediaing about slackers who take handouts from the CentGov?

And if you do, why were you not prepared for emergencies like this (3 months to a year)?

An astroturf liberal narrative that died before it even left the gate...

Another WuFlu victim?

:hm
 
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