Which of these gun control measures could you support?

[American]

Yeah, actually it is. That's literally what it says.



That it would be like saying, "Gas, being necessary to power a car, the right of the people to drill for oil, shall not be infringed." Well as soon as cars become easy to power by electricity the need for Gas to power them goes away. Given that was the only justification given for not allowing the regulation of oil drilling that can go away too.

"Like" doesn't mean it's the same thing, and your drivel isn't actually written anywhere except your post, and maybe inside your own mind. So no, your nonsense is dismissed.

 

[vegas giants]

A survey doesn't prove if he is for or against assault weapon bans, magazine limits, universal background checks,firearm laws like those in the UK or any of the other **** that anti-2nd amendment trash support.

Okay dokey pokey. Lol

 

[uptower]

I don’t subscribe to the asinine idea that voter ID is racist.

I don't subscribe to the idea that any more regulation should be placed on something as harmless and fundamental as voting but not on something as dangerous as guns.

 

[Bullseye]

We're discussing automatic rifles.

But let's be realistic. There is no rational purpose for a militia in this day and age. We needed them hundreds of years ago because there was no standing army, and what little military we had couldn't be mobilized quickly enough to do any good. None of that is true anymore. Every state has a national guard and a decent state and local police force. Airplanes, Helicopters, automobiles, the interstate highway system, telephones, the internet and the U.S. Military make the need for a local militia none existent.

Militias in this country at this point are not particularly well regulated and the ones that do exist are a threat to the United States not a protector. So what little rational basis might have existed for this law in the past doesn't really apply anymore at all.[/QUOTE Why arle we discussing militias at all? SCOTUS has already confirmed the right to keep and bear arms as an INDIVIDUAL RIGHT. Why are you insisting on fighting the war? Time to come up with new arguments and thoughts on the topic.

 

[Aberration]

You are free to try.


Start with the bible

Your reply is confusing given what I said. Why would I try? You’re Ok with banning the Bible, or why would I start with it?

 

[Aberration]

I don't subscribe to the idea that any more regulation should be placed on something as harmless and fundamental as voting but not on something as dangerous as guns.

Voting is not harmless. Some people would vote to make me a felon for what I possess. Voting is what allowed slavery. Voting is what allowed Hitler to get elected.

 

[vegas giants]

Your reply is confusing given what I said. Why would I try? You’re Ok with banning the Bible, or why would I start with it?

If you feel that you want to push for banning books feel free to do so. I wont stop you

 

[bluesmoke]

you just proved you either dishonestly ignored that those countries confiscated guns after registration, or you didn't know. and there is no evidence that their societies became safer after they confiscated firearms. But thanks for admitting that is what you want here

You just proved you either dishonestly ignored that those countries with more gun safety laws already were safer and that passing more gun laws is what already safer societies do. And you provide no evidence that their societies confiscated guns as you say nor provide evidence they did not become safer if they did what you claim.

I can’t be expected to know what evidence you have to support what you say. It’s up to you to provide the proof of what you claim. You went first in making a claim, you go first in providing the evidence. Then I follow. That’s the order.

 

[Aberration]

If you feel that you want to push for banning books feel free to do so. I wont stop you

That is an intentionally dishonest misrepresentation of what I said.

 

[TurtleDude]

You just proved you either dishonestly ignored that those countries with more gun safety laws already were safer and that passing more gun laws is what already safer societies do. And you provide no evidence that their societies confiscated guns as you say nor provide evidence they did not become safer if they did what you claim.

I can’t be expected to know what evidence you have to support what you say. It’s up to you to provide the proof of what you claim. You went first in making a claim, you go first in providing the evidence. Then I follow. That’s the order.

Isn't this a repeat of a previous lie that we showed was bogus?

You have lied since Britain and Australia have both confiscated guns or made future possession of ones that were owned before the law took effect, a criminal offense.

 

[TurtleDude]

"Like" doesn't mean it's the same thing, and your drivel isn't actually written anywhere except your post, and maybe inside your own mind. So no, your nonsense is dismissed.

it is hilarious watching gun banners trying to reinterpret the second amendment so they can pretend their craven schemes are not unconstitutional

 

[jamesrage]

Okay dokey pokey. Lol

You are free to post links of what he does and doesn't support.

 

[vegas giants]

You are free to post links of what he does and doesn't support.

Thanks .

Can I make you a sandwich first? Lol

 

[bluesmoke]

Isn't this a repeat of a previous lie that we showed was bogus?

You have lied since Britain and Australia have both confiscated guns or made future possession of ones that were owned before the law took effect, a criminal offense.

It's not a lie to not know. It's not a lie to ask for evidence of someone to prove their claim. I haven't read all the posts on this thread, so I don't know if what you say has been proved-out as you imply in your "bogus" sentence. If you can provide the evidence, being your burden of proof, we can debate from there. Otherwise the debate is over and your claims unfounded.

 

[jimbo]

Sure we can amend it away... just get Congress to do so by vote. Done.

Not exactly that simple. States, 3/4 of them, have something to say about that.

 

[TurtleDude]

It's not a lie to not know. It's not a lie to ask for evidence of someone to prove their claim. I haven't read all the posts on this thread, so I don't know if what you say has been proved-out as you imply in your "bogus" sentence. If you can provide the evidence, being your burden of proof, we can debate from there. Otherwise the debate is over and your claims unfounded.

seems like you know your arguments are both specious and based on dishonest claims as to your motivations. You claim that registration does not lead to confiscation-i proved that was a dishonest claim

 

[MSgt]

seems like you know your arguments are both specious and based on dishonest claims as to your motivations. You claim that registration does not lead to confiscation-i proved that was a dishonest claim

Has your registrations led to confiscation? Or are you one of the criminals who purchase his guns from a car trunk in an ally?

As always, you fulfill the expectation of the stereotype. There are exceptions to all rules. However, you use convenient exceptions to define the whole in order to validate an obtuse position, which helps to rage against said rules. Shall I declare that nationalism leads to Nazi Germany? Nah, that would be obtuse. Clearly, and in most cases, it does not.

 

[TurtleDude]

Has your registrations led to confiscation? Or are you one of the criminals who purchase his guns from a car trunk in an ally?

As always, you fulfill the expectation of the stereotype. There are exceptions to all rules. However, you use convenient exceptions to define the whole in order to validate an obtuse position, which helps to rage against said rules. Shall I declare that nationalism leads to Nazi Germany? Nah, that would be obtuse. Clearly, and in most cases, it does not.

more oozing idiocy. Every group that wants to ban guns and take them from their owners wants registration. anyone with a moderate level of intelligence understands that when a government has a list of who owns what-confiscating those things is so much easier

 

[vegas giants]

Has your registrations led to confiscation? Or are you one of the criminals who purchase his guns from a car trunk in an ally?

As always, you fulfill the expectation of the stereotype. There are exceptions to all rules. However, you use convenient exceptions to define the whole in order to validate an obtuse position, which helps to rage against said rules. Shall I declare that nationalism leads to Nazi Germany? Nah, that would be obtuse. Clearly, and in most cases, it does not.

Most guns are already defacto registered without confiscations. We just need to close the loopholes

 

[jamesrage]

Thanks .

Can I make you a sandwich first? Lol

Nothing to support your claim he is a second amendment advocate and nothing to contradict Lott's work. I knew you had nothing. Because if you had something then you would have posted it several posts ago.

 

[vegas giants]

Nothing to support your claim he is a second amendment advocate and nothing to contradict Lott's work. I knew you had nothing. Because if you had something then you would have posted it several posts ago.

Say hi to Mary for me. Lol

 

[Hondo]

more oozing idiocy. Every group that wants to ban guns and take them from their owners wants registration. anyone with a moderate level of intelligence understands that when a government has a list of who owns what-confiscating those things is so much easier

Registration will most certainly lead to paying a fee and taxing a right.

Registration successfully kept my stolen SUV and stolen kayak out of the hands of criminals.

 

[TurtleDude]

Registration will most certainly lead to paying a fee and taxing a right.

Registration successfully kept my stolen SUV and stolen kayak out of the hands of criminals.

If my gun is stolen-then I report it to the police. No need to let the government have a data base of guns-either to confiscate, or get hacked by criminals

 

[vegas giants]

Registration will most certainly lead to paying a fee and taxing a right.

Registration successfully kept my stolen SUV and stolen kayak out of the hands of criminals.

Voter registration has never led to a fee

 

[Hondo]

If my gun is stolen-then I report it to the police. No need to let the government have a data base of guns-either to confiscate, or get hacked by criminals

Exactly.