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Which of the top cable news networks have a political bias? (1 Viewer)

Which of the top cable news networks are biased politcally?


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No I didn't. The question was about the top cable news networks.

Mainly just messing with you, but I do know for a fact that CBS, NBC, and ABC are news broadcasts that are on my cable. :2razz:

So specifically you're asking about 24/7/365 "news" channels.
 
Mainly just messing with you, but I do know for a fact that CBS, NBC, and ABC are news broadcasts that are on my cable. :2razz:

So specifically you're asking about 24/7/365 "news" channels.

Sure -- which are cable news networks. The top three are Fox, CNN and MSNBC.
 
Doesn't matter if Hannity doesn't "do news"; the question wasn't about which ones NEWS reporting has the most bias, but whether the networks platform as a whole has any. So things like Rachael Maddow, Jake Tapper, or Sean Hannity would all play into that for their respective networks.

Though yeah, the Limbaugh comment is just mind boggling since he wouldn't factor into ANY of the networks since he has no real connection to any of them.

I admitted the Fox was at least slightly rightwing, because they do have some leftwingers on there. I was responding to an attack trying to make the case that the Fox is crazy rightwing with no balance.
 
I admitted the Fox was at least slightly rightwing, because they do have some leftwingers on there.

The issue with getting upset with someone saying fox is slightly right wing or saying it's crazy rightwing....or similar with the other networks...is that it's a bit of a relativistic matter. Without some additional information, it's hard to make a judgement as to how to take their statement; whether it's a reasonable or ridiculous one. For me, without further info, I'd generally just dismiss it either way.

To my point...

You suggest fox is slightly right wing.

Using a similar nuanced scale that's more than just "left" or "right", what would you consider CNN and MSNBC?
 
The issue with getting upset with someone saying fox is slightly right wing or saying it's crazy rightwing....or similar with the other networks...is that it's a bit of a relativistic matter. Without some additional information, it's hard to make a judgement as to how to take their statement; whether it's a reasonable or ridiculous one. For me, without further info, I'd generally just dismiss it either way.

To my point...

You suggest fox is slightly right wing.

Using a similar nuanced scale that's more than just "left" or "right", what would you consider CNN and MSNBC?

I contend that Fox actually has leftwingers and rightwingers on their staff. They do lean right , but they're more balanced than MSNBC.
 
I contend that Fox actually has leftwingers and rightwingers on their staff. They do lean right , but they're more balanced than MSNBC.

That's not what I asked.

You said that fox is "slightly right wing"

How would you describe MSNBC and CNN. Not in relation to fox, but in relation to being left or right wing
 
Limbaugh isn't on Fox. You have a distorted perception of Fox. Sheppard Smith who does the midday news is obviously a leftwinger. Hannity doesn't do news, he is a commentator.

To say that "Hannity doesn't do News" is a gross misconception, when referring to FOX. People said that about Glenn Beck, O'Riley, Cavuto, etc. They are FOX. The fact of the matter is that most people don't tune into FOX to view their news.

Also, a while back, a few of the FOX News anchors quit, because the former CEO, Roger Ayles, sent out directives on bias wording, etc, that the Newsmen were directed to use. It's everywhere at FOX, just more-so on the evening segments.
 
A bit right?? When you have Limbaugh screaming about femi-nazis - it's more than a "bit" right. Hannity is out there with his conspiracy theories about Sandy Hook being a hoax.
WOWZA

I haven't watched or listened to Hannity in a long time --- he believes Sandy Hook was a hoax? Can you cite a source on that, please?

.....?

Or does anyone else have a source for this? I've never heard of Hannity being a Sandy Hook denier.
 
A bit right?? When you have Limbaugh screaming about femi-nazis - it's more than a "bit" right. Hannity is out there with his conspiracy theories about Sandy Hook being a hoax.
WOWZA

I haven't watched or listened to Hannity in a long time --- he believes Sandy Hook was a hoax? Can you cite a source on that, please?

.....?

Or does anyone else have a source for this? I've never heard of Hannity being a Sandy Hook denier.

I guess not. Must've been a lie.
 
*SIGH*

Will people please learn what "bias" means?

Humans write news. In any given day, there are too many stories to cover them all. They must select which news to run. Even in the most well-intended journalists who are total moderates on absolutely everything, eventually a pattern might emerge, because it's the same brain making that choice over and over again, and that brain has its own concept of what is most journalistically important and how best to hold on to an audience, even in the complete absence of partisan beliefs. Because of this, all news organizations will eventually develop a certain "personality" of what sort of coverage they tend to do, based on the patterns of the many brains involved in the editorial process.

THAT IS NOT WHAT BIAS IS.

Bias is taking an actual political position -- not a factual position, a subjective POLITICAL one -- on the issues on which you are reporting.

Furthermore, bias is not always bad. Bias used to be a universal feature of all news organizations, usually disclosed right on the header of the paper. There are still some that function that way (although increasingly this is being absorbed by the blogosphere), and there's a place for that. The reputational bar is higher for organizations like that, in my opinion, but it is good that they exist as a sort of fascilitator of democratic discussion.

Bias is bad when it is undisclosed, or insidious.

CNN is not bias. Stop it. Their personality is very simply whatever will get their guests arguing the most.

MSNBC and FOX both have quite a lot of bias. But they are not the same.

MSNBC actually does disclose their bias. But they also have a very high margin of opinionated coverage, and relatively less straight reporting. I don't find most of their programming very useful for learning the actual news.

FOX has more straight reporting. But they also don't disclose their bias (and often outright lie about it) and they are also basically owned by the Republican party in very literal monetary terms. Because of this, I don't really consider FOX to be a news organization at all. Even MSNBC had the integrity to suspend Olbermann merely for making an undisclosed personal donation to a candidate.
 
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*SIGH*

Will people please learn what "bias" means?

Humans write news. In any given day, there are too many stories to cover them all. They must select which news to run. Even in the most well-intended journalists who are total moderates on absolutely everything, eventually a pattern might emerge, because it's the same brain making that choice over and over again, and that brain has its own concept of what is most journalistically important and how best to hold on to an audience, even in the complete absence of partisan beliefs. Because of this, all news organizations will eventually develop a certain "personality" of what sort of coverage they tend to do, based on the patterns of the many brains involved in the editorial process.

THAT IS NOT WHAT BIAS IS.

Bias is taking an actual political position -- not a factual position, a subjective POLITICAL one -- on the issues on which you are reporting.

Furthermore, bias is not always bad. Bias used to be a universal feature of all news organizations, usually disclosed right on the header of the paper. There are still some that function that way (although increasingly this is being absorbed by the blogosphere), and there's a place for that. The reputational bar is higher for organizations like that, in my opinion, but it is good that they exist as a sort of fascilitator of democratic discussion.

Bias is bad when it is undisclosed, or insidious.

CNN is not bias. Stop it. Their personality is very simply whatever will get their guests arguing the most.

MSNBC and FOX both have quite a lot of bias. But they are not the same.

MSNBC actually does disclose their bias. But they also have a very high margin of opinionated coverage, and relatively less straight reporting. I don't find most of their programming very useful for learning the actual news.

FOX has more straight reporting. But they also don't disclose their bias (and often outright lie about it) and they are also basically owned by the Republican party in very literal monetary terms. Because of this, I don't really consider FOX to be a news organization at all. Even MSNBC had the integrity to suspend Olbermann merely for making an undisclosed personal donation to a candidate.

Your definition of "bias" is far too narrow. And it is true that the same mind can produce a pattern without being biased, but that in and of itself does not mean that a pattern isn't actually biased.

A "news" story written from the point of view that a particular position is correct -- even if it does not state that position -- is a biased one.

These biases can manifest themselves in numerous non-overt ways, such as word choice, emphasis of certain facts over others, positioning of facts or data within a story, the possibilities go on and on. So no, they don't have to actually state a position as fact to treat it as fact.

It can be done much more subtly, too. For an example from CNN, during Clinton's war on Yugoslavia, Clinton was taking a lot of criticism for his contention that victory can be achieved through air power alone. On May 8, 1999, right in the middle of this tussle, when CNN ran its "today in history" blurb, they declined to mention that it was VE day, but they highlighted a battle in the Pacific from the same day in 1945, an insignificant battle of no particular importance to the war that no one but the staunchest of WWII buffs knew about, and noted that it was a battle in which the Japanese were driven from the island using air power alone. Did they mention Clinton's air war? Did they take a position on it? Overtly, no. But clearly, yes.

So no, "bias" is not nearly so narrow as you want to define it here.
 
Do you believe the top cable news networks choose their wording, timing and duration of stories based on their political bias? Which ones, if any, do this?

CNN
MSNBC
FOX

If so, feel free to provide examples of such bias.

If not, you might be delusional. :)

They all have a bias. One of them does give a fair hearing to both sides though and doesn't report ONLY the part that supports their bias. Two of them do not give a fair hearing to both sides and report or create only stories that support their bias.
 
Do you believe the top cable news networks choose their wording, timing and duration of stories based on their political bias? Which ones, if any, do this?

CNN
MSNBC
FOX

If so, feel free to provide examples of such bias.

If not, you might be delusional. :)

Yes all three are biased. IMO for these particular three Fox and MSNBC take top honors. They are the worst of the worst for having biased.
 
Your definition of "bias" is far too narrow. And it is true that the same mind can produce a pattern without being biased, but that in and of itself does not mean that a pattern isn't actually biased.

A "news" story written from the point of view that a particular position is correct -- even if it does not state that position -- is a biased one.

These biases can manifest themselves in numerous non-overt ways, such as word choice, emphasis of certain facts over others, positioning of facts or data within a story, the possibilities go on and on. So no, they don't have to actually state a position as fact to treat it as fact.

It can be done much more subtly, too. For an example from CNN, during Clinton's war on Yugoslavia, Clinton was taking a lot of criticism for his contention that victory can be achieved through air power alone. On May 8, 1999, right in the middle of this tussle, when CNN ran its "today in history" blurb, they declined to mention that it was VE day, but they highlighted a battle in the Pacific from the same day in 1945, an insignificant battle of no particular importance to the war that no one but the staunchest of WWII buffs knew about, and noted that it was a battle in which the Japanese were driven from the island using air power alone. Did they mention Clinton's air war? Did they take a position on it? Overtly, no. But clearly, yes.

So no, "bias" is not nearly so narrow as you want to define it here.

No, it isn't. The only thing it excludes is the inevitable selection trend that will happen no matter who you are, or even if the decision is made by machine. That is not bias.

Said news story is not biased if the thing being said to be correct is based on stuff that is simply factual. That is not a "position." Positions are subjective.

CNN cannot highlight literally every single thing that has ever happened on that day. The fact that they didn't pick your hobby horse doesn't make them "biased." It makes YOU biased.
 
No, it isn't. The only thing it excludes is the inevitable selection trend that will happen no matter who you are, or even if the decision is made by machine. That is not bias.

I just said a pattern doesn't necessarily mean bias. But you apparently think that because that's so, then a pattern never means bias, which is ridiculous. That's the only way this response makes sense if you actually read what I wrote.

Said news story is not biased if the thing being said to be correct is based on stuff that is simply factual. That is not a "position." Positions are subjective.

It is when it's written from the point of view that a particular position is correct. I already explained how.

CNN cannot highlight literally every single thing that has ever happened on that day. The fact that they didn't pick your hobby horse doesn't make them "biased." It makes YOU biased.

VE day isn't my "hobby horse," it's literally one of the most important days in human history. I explained how the bias manifested; this from you is hardly much more than saying "nuh-uh." :shrug:
 
This is probably a stupid question, and I'm certain someone will point that out, but why bother with having a Poll if there is only one correct "answer" and everyone who doesn't give it (checking all three boxes) is going to be called out by name and told what they "should have" done to... what... pass the test? :lol:
 
Do you believe the top cable news networks choose their wording, timing and duration of stories based on their political bias? Which ones, if any, do this?

CNN
MSNBC
FOX

If so, feel free to provide examples of such bias.

If not, you might be delusional. :)

I would say all three. Fox definitely is biased towards the Republicans, MSNBC might was well be a propaganda wing for the DNC, CNN isn't as bad. Although I would say CNN is in the middle of those other two, it is left of center when it comes to bias.

The thing is all three networks are in the news business to make money and all three cater to their audience. I do think CNN has made a conscious effort to get from being pretty left back towards the middle and may be the least bias of the three.

But this is always in the eyes of the beholder.
 
I would say all three. Fox definitely is biased towards the Republicans, MSNBC might was well be a propaganda wing for the DNC, CNN isn't as bad. Although I would say CNN is in the middle of those other two, it is left of center when it comes to bias.

The thing is all three networks are in the news business to make money and all three cater to their audience. I do think CNN has made a conscious effort to get from being pretty left back towards the middle and may be the least bias of the three.

But this is always in the eyes of the beholder.

I have to commend CNN for recently firing a few who apparently strayed outside of even the CNN bias. Hopefully this is a good sign for the future.
 
I have to commend CNN for recently firing a few who apparently strayed outside of even the CNN bias. Hopefully this is a good sign for the future.

Very true. It's strange that CNN as organized by Ted Turner as a far left, pro-liberal new network would be the one today that has the straightest news with the less bias.
 
This is probably a stupid question, and I'm certain someone will point that out, but why bother with having a Poll if there is only one correct "answer" and everyone who doesn't give it (checking all three boxes) is going to be called out by name and told what they "should have" done to... what... pass the test? :lol:

If you're referring to this:

https://www.debatepolitics.com/poll...rks-have-political-bias-4.html#post1067356265

I didn't start this poll, so what I said has no bearing on the poll.

I stated my opinion that everyone should say all three are biased (and the vast majority who voted did this, so I'm not out of line in saying so).

I asked the ones who didn't for explanations as to why they only thought one of the three was biased, which is a perfectly legitimate question. I didn't, in fact, "tell" them anything.
 
Fox takes political bias to the next level. They are willing to distort the truth to promote their own agenda.
 
Fox takes political bias to the next level. They are willing to distort the truth to promote their own agenda.

Um -- they all do that.
 
This is probably a stupid question, and I'm certain someone will point that out, but why bother with having a Poll if there is only one correct "answer" and everyone who doesn't give it (checking all three boxes) is going to be called out by name and told what they "should have" done to... what... pass the test? :lol:

There is no "correct answer" -- it's an opinion poll. It's my opinion that they are all politically biased and it's my opinion that anyone who watches them with a critical eye can clearly see that they're all politically biased. That's what we do here --- discuss news, current events and politics and give our opinions. Surely you don't expect anyone who creates a poll or votes in the poll or views the poll to not have an opinion on how people answer - that would be ridiculous, wouldn't it?
 

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