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Which is Islam's Main Goal: To Captivate, Convert or Kill Us?

Which is Islam's Main Goal: To Captivate, Convert or Kill Us?

  • Captivate

    Votes: 6 9.4%

  • Convert

    Votes: 24 37.5%

  • Kill

    Votes: 14 21.9%

  • None of the Above

    Votes: 27 42.2%

  • Other (Specify)

    Votes: 9 14.1%
  • Total voters
    64

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Which is Islam's Main Goal: To Captivate, Convert or Kill Us?

From time to time I get indications there are people who believe the main goal of Islamic domination is to kill or convert us. I have long believed, however, that the true main goal is to captivate us.

This passage from a Front Page Magazine interview with Bill Warner, the director of the Center for the Study of Political Islam (CSPI) and spokesman for PoliticalIslam.com illustrates the idea well:


The goal, I believe is to captivate us and much of the tax money that goes now to Washington to pay for defense, for example, would instead go to Mecca.

That's how I see it. But what about you?

What do you think?
 
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Depends. What do you mean by "Islam"? The text of the Qur'an, or the various diverse adherents of the religion today?
 
Kandahar said:
Depends. What do you mean by "Islam"? The text of the Qur'an, or the various diverse adherents of the religion today?
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You can help educate the readership by explaining both. Thank you.

 
Islams main goal is to follow the Koran..


Why would you believe any of the absurd options you have put up there? What you are probably referring to is a tiny minority of Muslims... Just like a tiny minority of Christians are extremists as well..

Another question.. What is the main goal of Christianity? To poison us with low morals and constant lies?


This poll is absurd.. So is the source.. You dont expect us to post sources from one sided and racists magazines?
 
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bhkad said:
You can help educate the readership by explaining both. Thank you.

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Well the Qur'an certainly has a lot of bloodshed in it, and calls to convert people or execute them. However, the same is true of many ancient religious texts. Since most modern adherents of any religion don't follow the ancient texts, I don't think one can judge Islam as it exists today entirely by the Qur'an.

As for modern Islam...there are so many different beliefs WITHIN Islam that one can't really generalize like that. Islam doesn't really HAVE a single goal. There are certainly plenty of extremists like al-Qaeda which seek to wind the clock back to the sixth century and kill all the infidels. There are plenty of other groups which are just as violent but not as extreme, such as Hamas, which basically just use religion as a pretext for their political struggles which have little to do with Islam itself. There are also many reformers who seek to expand Islam's sphere of influence through modernization and making the religion attractive to encourage people to convert.
 



Your opinion and orientation are, both, noted here.
 
We only seem to want to talk about "them" and what their doing.

We never want to talk about "us" and what we are doing, to "them".
 
Islam and the followers are too diverse to have a specific goal.
 
Re: Which is Neocon's Main Goal: Terrorize Americans or fight Israel's wars?

Which is the Neocons main goal?

1) Terrorize the American public into supporting ridiculously high military spending, unnecesary wars, and restrictions on personal freedoms?

2) Establish a new American Imperialism?

3) Drag the US into the Arab Israeli conflict on Israel's side, and spill American blood and spend American treasure fighting Israel's wars?

From time to time I get indications there are people who believe the main goal of neocons is item 1 or 2. I have long perceived, however, that the true main goal is to have the US embroiled in the Israeli-Arab dispute in the ME, and fight Israel's wars.

This passage from a Wikipedia article about Doug Feith a necon given the key position of Undersecretary of Defense for Policy in the Bush administration, illustrates the point well:

 
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Re: Which is Neocon's Main Goal: Terrorize Americans or fight Israel's wars?

At this point in time, the neocon's are nothing more than a footnote in history. Most of them either lost their jobs through subsequent elections, or were shunned into retirement. The country finally caught on to their anti-American bull**** and did, just like I knew Americans would, something about it. That's the nice thing about our heritage, when American's finally decide a change is needed, they make that change. The trouble is, this is only the beginning. The next time you hear from a neocon speaking from authority, it will be 2028.
 
Re: Which is Neocon's Main Goal: Terrorize Americans or fight Israel's wars?


I disagree. My post above was a bit tounge and cheek, but neocon outlets like the Weekly Standard and FrontPageMagazine which folks like Bkhad continually cut and paste on boards like this one continue their anti-Islam campaign and push for the US to engage militaristically. Their biased message is picked up by mainstream media like Fox News and rebroadcast.

Just a recent example from yesterday was the Fox story railing about the Palestinian supporter shouting to the pro-Israel supporters "go back to the overns," while reporting not a word about the Israel supporters with signs like "nuke Gaza".

They have not gone away and are still hard at work, as our resident mouthpiece Bkhad reminds us daily.
 
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Re: Which is Neocon's Main Goal: Terrorize Americans or fight Israel's wars?

Thanks a lot!

I had a nice dream going and you just woke me up!
 
What is Catholicism's main goal: To Touch Boys, Collect Land, or Spread AIDS?


Oh, wait, "Catholicism" is not an animate object, so it can't have goals. Hmmm.
 
I think like most religions if anyone was to follow the teachings word for word they would be in jail in no time.

The concern is the amount of people who truly view their existence permantly through their religion.People who blame islamic extremism on "American imperialism" do so against evidence.

How does American Imperalism explain the Islamist attempts to takeover algeria? Or the attacks on India which started long vbefore 9/11 the list goes on but i guess your argument is gonna have to be its always the othersides fault.
 
Re: Which is Neocon's Main Goal: Terrorize Americans or fight Israel's wars?



This is quite funny. Neocons were saying EXACTLY the same thing about liberals 8 years ago. :lol:

You are two sides of the same coin and don't even know it because of your partisan bickering. Both partys are the same.
 
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Bkhad, your lack of tolerance for the Muslim faith is quite telling. Why are you so afraid?
 
Re: Which is Neocon's Main Goal: Terrorize Americans or fight Israel's wars?

Blackdog said:
This is quite funny. Neocons were saying EXACTLY the same thing about liberals 8 years ago. :lol:

You are two sides of the same coin and don't even know it because of your partisan bickering. Both partys are the same.
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I understand that you're new. So I won't hold it against you that you haven't seen, the couple of dozen times, I've posted that very comment.
 
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