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Where the Novichok that almost killed a former Russian intelligence officer in the UK was produced

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Where the Novichok that almost killed a former Russian intelligence officer in the UK was produced

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The Shikhany research base in the Saratovskaya Oblast. The labs/arsenal were subsequently destroyed.

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Since the New Year, the village of Shikhany in Saratov Oblast has lost its status as a Closed Administrative-Territorial Unit. According to statements from representatives of the British intelligence services, it was here that the Novichok was produced, the agent that, according to the British government, was used in the attempted poisoning of former Russian intelligence officer Sergei Skripal and his daughter Yulia. Anyone who wants can now visit the hometown of Saratov’s most famous brand. The residents of Shikhany are concerned that now their financing will be significantly reduced, layoffs will begin, and their specialized clinic will be closed.

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Take a tour with a Novaya Gazeta (New Newspaper) reporter to the town in central Russia where the nerve agent Novichok was manufactured. The settlement of 6,067 (2010 Census) comprises Shikhany-1 (the town proper), Shikhany-2 (military base), and Shikhany-4 (the arsenal). The Shikhany CW research site worked in tandem with another in the Moscow suburb of Yasenevo, and also another such site in Uzbekistan that was dismantled and decontaminated in 1999. The CW labs in Shikhany were demolished in April 2018 and fresh earth was trucked in after the Salisbury attack, presumably to thwart any inspection by the OPCW.
 

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Porton Down, just a few miles from where the Skripals were poisoned also produced Novichok. Porton Down the much more likely source. Do your homework on the Integrity Initiative (oxymoron) Skripal. Steele, and MSM manipulation in the British MSM.
 

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Porton Down, just a few miles from where the Skripals were poisoned also produced Novichok. Porton Down the much more likely source. Do your homework on the Integrity Initiative (oxymoron) Skripal. Steele, and MSM manipulation in the British MSM.


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Porton Down, just a few miles from where the Skripals were poisoned also produced Novichok. Porton Down the much more likely source. Do your homework on the Integrity Initiative (oxymoron) Skripal. Steele, and MSM manipulation in the British MSM.

Porton Down, just a few miles from where the Skripals were poisoned is where the Novichok was taken to be identified.

Have you EVIDENCE Novichok was produce there?

Timeline of the Skripal attack.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...imeline-russian-spies-poisoning-a8524381.html
 
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Porton Down, just a few miles from where the Skripals were poisoned is where the Novichok was taken to be identified.

Have you EVIDENCE Novichok was produce there?

Timeline of the Skripal attack.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...imeline-russian-spies-poisoning-a8524381.html


The same Porton Down scientists who refused to comment on where the agent was manufactured.


https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news...s-unable-to-verify-precise-source-of-novichok


British scientists at the Porton Down defence research laboratory have not established that the nerve agent used to poison Sergei and Yulia Skripal was made in Russia, it has emerged.

Gary Aitkenhead, the chief executive of the government’s Defence Science and Technology Laboratory (DSTL), said the poison had been identified as a military-grade novichok nerve agent, which could probably be deployed only by a nation state.
 

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The same Porton Down scientists who refused to comment on where the agent was manufactured.


https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news...s-unable-to-verify-precise-source-of-novichok


British scientists at the Porton Down defence research laboratory have not established that the nerve agent used to poison Sergei and Yulia Skripal was made in Russia, it has emerged.

Gary Aitkenhead, the chief executive of the government’s Defence Science and Technology Laboratory (DSTL), said the poison had been identified as a military-grade novichok nerve agent, which could probably be deployed only by a nation state.

And?

We know the delivery system and the delivery boys.

Salisbury nerve agent attack: Timeline of movements by Russian 'spies' charged with attempted assassination of Sergei Skripal

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...imeline-russian-spies-poisoning-a8524381.html
 

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Porton Down, just a few miles from where the Skripals were poisoned also produced Novichok. Porton Down the much more likely source. Do your homework on the Integrity Initiative (oxymoron) Skripal. Steele, and MSM manipulation in the British MSM.

Isn't it orders of magnitude more likely that Russian Foreign Intelligence Service officers received Novichok from their Russian handlers, than that they broke into Porton Down to get it? That makes no sense.
 

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Isn't it orders of magnitude more likely that Russian Foreign Intelligence Service officers received Novichok from their Russian handlers, than that they broke into Porton Down to get it? That makes no sense.

You are presuming facts not in evidence. Why would Russians want to kill Skripal? Follow the crumbs to Integrity Initiative, Skripal, Pablo Miller, Steele, misinformation campaign in UK MSM. Groups or agencies wanting to conduct a misinformation campaign against Russia are the prime suspects. This reinforces the Cold War need for an enemy that maintains the profit stream to the Military Industrial Corporate Comples.
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We are awash in unproven theories paraded as facts.

WE USED TO BE BETTER
 

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You are presuming facts not in evidence. Why would Russians want to kill Skripal? Follow the crumbs to Integrity Initiative, Skripal, Pablo Miller, Steele, misinformation campaign in UK MSM. Groups or agencies wanting to conduct a misinformation campaign against Russia are the prime suspects. This reinforces the Cold War need for an enemy that maintains the profit stream to the Military Industrial Corporate Comples.
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We know the delivery system and the delivery boys.

Salisbury nerve agent attack: Timeline of movements by Russian 'spies' charged with attempted assassination of Sergei Skripal

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...imeline-russian-spies-poisoning-a8524381.html

Please fail again.
 

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We know the delivery system and the delivery boys.

Salisbury nerve agent attack: Timeline of movements by Russian 'spies' charged with attempted assassination of Sergei Skripal

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...imeline-russian-spies-poisoning-a8524381.html

Please fail again.

Baseless accusations. Absolute fraud. A lovely MSM Narrative created by the Integrity Initiative.

You are as usual having

Your problems with the truth noted, but your steadfast mouthing noted for
The Company line, I presume. DoD BOT!
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Baseless accusations. Absolute fraud. A lovely MSM Narrative created by the Integrity Initiative.

You are as usual having

Your problems with the truth noted, but your steadfast mouthing noted for
The Company line, I presume. DoD BOT!
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More RT.com nonsense.

They tracked the RUSSIANS through their trip.

Try thinking before responding.
 

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Isn't that how all investigations begin?

They have hard evidence of the Russians where they were in close proximity to the victims.

Porton Down is even closer and many Porton Down employees in Skripal town and neighborhood.

Your problems with the truth are noted, but your steadfast mouthing noted for
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Porton Down is even closer and many Porton Down employees in Skripal town and neighborhood.

Your problems with the truth are noted, but your steadfast mouthing noted for
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And?

First, you are untrue.

4 March

8.05am: Suspects repeat journey from Bow to Waterloo station, and onwards to Salisbury.

11.48am: Men caught on CCTV exiting Salisbury railway station.

11.58am: Suspects caught on CCTV near Mr Skripal’s house in Wilton Road, Salisbury, “moments before the attack”.

1.05pm: Men filmed in Fisherton Street, Salisbury city centre, heading towards the train station.

1.30pm: Mr Skripal’s car seen driving towards Salisbury city centre, where he and his daughter arrived at the Sainsbury’s car park 10 minutes later.


Second, have you EVIDENCE Novichok was produced there?
 

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Isn't that how all investigations begin?

They have hard evidence of the Russians where they were in close proximity to the victims.

Motive, Means and Opportunity as they say on the TV shows.

Russia likely is the perp, but we dont know that Russia is the perp, those who make the claim are lying.
 

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You are presuming facts not in evidence. Why would Russians want to kill Skripal? Follow the crumbs to Integrity Initiative, Skripal, Pablo Miller, Steele, misinformation campaign in UK MSM. Groups or agencies wanting to conduct a misinformation campaign against Russia are the prime suspects. This reinforces the Cold War need for an enemy that maintains the profit stream to the Military Industrial Corporate Comples.
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Why would Russians want to kill Skripal? Do you even know who he was? I seem to recall Putin calling Skripal a scumbag and that "Traitors will kick the bucket."

The prime suspects are the two Russian spies caught on video who staged a sloppy chemical attack on UK soil against a wanted ex-Russian spy that resulted in the collateral deaths of two UK citizens. The same type of attack, by the way, that Putin has ordered in the past against other ex-spies on Russian soil. The type of attack that the UK has never engaged in on their own soil...

I think you are ignoring facts in evidence. Occams razor says the simplest explanation must be assumed. Why assume a conspiracy when there is no evidence for one?
 

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Why would Russians want to kill Skripal? Do you even know who he was? I seem to recall Putin calling Skripal a scumbag and that "Traitors will kick the bucket."

The prime suspects are the two Russian spies caught on video who staged a sloppy chemical attack on UK soil against a wanted ex-Russian spy that resulted in the collateral deaths of two UK citizens. The same type of attack, by the way, that Putin has ordered in the past against other ex-spies on Russian soil. The type of attack that the UK has never engaged in on their own soil...

I think you are ignoring facts in evidence. Occams razor says the simplest explanation must be assumed. Why assume a conspiracy when there is no evidence for one?

Occams razor absolutely. Porton Down chemical weapons lab 10 miles from Skripal's town and professes experience with Novichok and this lab never verified that Novichok was used. That puts Novichok at Porton Down. Porton Down employees live in neighborhoods near Skripal. That gives access by Porton Down employees or surrogates. UK attempting to make Russia look bad in the MSM to further a renewed Cold War and the huge profit stream it generates for the MIC. Profit supplies motive. Novichok in French perfume bottle found by two welfare citizens living in expensive home. Strange. Access, nearby chemicals, motive, Corporate profits, typical Intelligence Agency false flag. All video of the two Russians appear to show two typical tourists. No chemicals, no dna, nothing tangible or sufficient for courtroom evidence.
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