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Where next for Labour?

Wessexman

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I just wrote this new post, the first in quite some time for my blog. It is on the future of the Labour party in the UK. Just in case anyone is interested here it is.

The Human Scale.

It seems clear by now that Labour is heading for a wipeout and we are facing the rather unpalatable prospect of Conservative party rule again. On the bright side though hopefully there is a good chance the New Labour project will die with Brown's government.

The question is then where should Labour go from there? Particularly of interest to us decentralists; where could it go in our direction?

Personally I think it needs to go backwards but not just to the old labour of the 70s when the communists struggled for control of the party with the moderates. No they need to go further back than that, even further than Atlee and the triumph of Welfare Statism. They need to go back to those intellectual fathers who once meant so much to the fledging party, those British thinkers who once meant so much more than German communists and Thatcherites to Labour.
In particular they need to rediscover three key British Labour thinkers.

Firstly they need to rediscover the political and economic works of that radical Tory, John Ruskin. As strange as it seems now he was a major influence on the beginnings of the Labour party as well as on the likes of Tolstoy and Gandhi. According to the introduction of my copy of his seminal Unto this last it was this book which, as Clement Atlee retells it, was the favourite political and economic influence on the first 30 or so Labour MPs to reach parliament who were given a survey to complete on the subject.

In his works on political economy Ruskin set out his views on such things as value, dignified work, the right organisation of labour and wealth. He makes some extremely keen insights and Labour would do well to recall his importance. He reminds us of the need for dignified work rather than drudgery, and for the need to make sure the power to direct labour, or wealth, is used and not abused. His work emphasises the need for a more decentralised and satisfying economy where the quality is more important than quantity and the satisfaction of the worker in daily toil is as important as the consumer's.

Secondly Labour really needs to go back to the works of R.H Tawney, a name not well known now but who was once an important stalwart in certain quarters of the British labour party. He was famous within it for such works as the Acquisitive society and Religion and the Rise of Capitalism . In these works and particularly in the Acquisitive society he stressed two important ideas as Peter Etherden has emphasised:

Tawney had two big ideas. The first was the idea that society should be organised for the performance of duties rather than the maintenance of rights. This led to the idea that industry and banking should be organized as professions. The other was intrinsic in his analysis of the nature and proper function of property and led to far-reaching and incisive attacks on 'functionless property' and 'divorcing ownership from use'...attacks that went far beyond the ideas of either Marx or Proudhon and echoed Gesell.

In Tawney's view his two big ideas were related. He begins his discussion of 'property and creative work' in 'The Acquisitive Society' with the words: 'The application of the principle that society should be organised upon the basis of functions...offers a standard for discriminating between those types of private property which are legitimate and those which are not'. Nowadays most economists have learnt to discriminate between 'goods' and 'bads' in our gross national products, but if Tawney had his way, they would also be distinguishing between property and 'improperty'. 'Property,' exclaimed Tawney, 'is not theft, but a good deal of theft becomes property'.

He emphasised the importance of linking rights to functions or duties and therefore called for the removal, gradual or quickly, of functionless property and the organisation of industry in order to produce things of quality and provide worker satisfaction and goverance. This links him with the old labour idea of more producer control while also emphasising the need for community input.

He was therefore an important decentralist thinker even if he wrote little specifically on scale as he realised the need for human scale control and satisfaction in dignified work and the Labour party which has so long been into corporatism and centralised bureaucratic control coulb learn a lot from this past master.

Finally Labour could learn a lot by rediscovering another key early influence; the guild socialist and Fabian thinker G.D.H Cole.

Cole is perhaps the most decentralist of all these three figures. He was a pluralist through and through. He believed that individuals needed greater control over their existences but also realised the key place of association in the life of individuals. He emphasised that many of the functions of the state and industry could be broken up and federative, decentralised, largly self-governing associations could take their place from the block to the workshop.

In many ways he shared the recognition of intermediate association common among many Conservatives from at least Burke onwards as well as pluralist liberals like De Toqueville and of course the social anarchists like Kropotkin.

His influence could be very positive on Labour by drawing their attention to the importance of intermediate associations particularly those that are decentralised, participartory and democratic and helping them to rediscover the importance of function in the goverment of state and industry.

So it can be seen that Labour has within its own history three thinkers that could push in a new, refreshing direction making it a proper alternative to the Conservatives and bringing back some decentralism and diversity into the bleakness of modern British politics.


Will it do it? Of course not.
 
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I see Labour in the position Conservative has been in for the past 10 years.
As a distrusted party who's only job is opposition.

Its time now for Labour to take a good hard look at their policies and positions and try and win back their traditional supporters - the working class
 
I only got this far,

It seems clear by now that Labour is heading for a wipeout and we are facing the rather unpalatable prospect of Conservative party rule again. On the bright side though hopefully there is a good chance the New Labour project will die with Brown's government.

and had to write this. If it wasn't for New Labour the party would still be an unelectable antiquated shambles run by "old copper top".

I will read on to see if it improves.

I can see you have put a lot of effort into your account of political history. but i,m afraid its came across as a rhetorical rant full of idealistic b......s:cool:
your a fraudulent Succa!


Paul.
 
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I only got this far,

It seems clear by now that Labour is heading for a wipeout and we are facing the rather unpalatable prospect of Conservative party rule again. On the bright side though hopefully there is a good chance the New Labour project will die with Brown's government.

and had to write this. If it wasn't for New Labour the party would still be an unelectable antiquated shambles run by "old copper top".

I will read on to see if it improves.

I can see you have put a lot of effort into your account of political history. but i,m afraid its came across as a rhetorical rant full of idealistic b......s:cool:
your a fraudulent Succa!


Paul.
New Labour still suck but I agree the communist ridden Old labour of the 70s was bad as well, but personally I prefer them to New labour. I'm not a Labour party member or supporter btw, I support none of the major parties. My parties are the Greens and Wessex Regionalists.

I think you flatter me with the rhetorical rant bit, I thought it was quite poorly written. I've been trying to improve my writing.
 
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Where next for Labour? I think U should put them in the SEWERS where they

belong,all of the labour party each and every member has a lot to anwser for what they did to our country,the lies what they told us,and also the good lads that lost there lives.The English what did day do to U great poeple,they try to use your Troups to suit there selves,u no thats why you have the 4th

of July,I dont no,how we ever come to have a union with shi--te like that
is beyound me in 1703.We want to go back as the same as U

Independence for ever.

Fu-ck the lot of them.

GOD BLESS AMERICA
 
New Labour isn't really something that can die. Blair's administration has fundamentally changed the character and aims of the Labour party, and while other future Labour Party members might not be as keen on the idea of "New Labour" they are certainly going to be closer to New Labour than what Old Labour was before Blair took office.
 
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