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There are stairs at the Great White Throne.I have it on good authority that Heaven is at the top of a stairway.
Cheers and be well.
Evilroddy.
All religions look to the sky or high places when worshipping. So where is heaven or hell for that matter? Another dimension? Another universe? Another time?
Nope, no suffering in hell or Job would not have prayed to go there...In Hell there is only suffering, in Heaven there is only enjoyment, but in the middle Kingdom, there is both, allowing spiritual progress.
I'm not saying we should pity them or that it even hurts, it's kind of like working out, your muscles hurt, "No they don't I can't accept the concept of pain." Of course the suffering you feel in the Lake of Fire is different than working out.Nope, no suffering in hell or Job would not have prayed to go there...
“Oh that You would hide me in Sheol, That You would conceal me until Your wrath returns to You, That You would set a limit for me and remember me!" Job 14:13 NAS
Fire destroys...I'm not saying we should pity them or that it even hurts, it's kind of like working out, your muscles hurt, "No they don't I can't accept the concept of pain." Of course the suffering you feel in the Lake of Fire is different than working out.
Yes, but Krishna says in Bhagavad-Gita, not that he's right, that the soul is neither moistened by water nor burnt by fire.Fire destroys...
Yes, but Krishna says in Bhagavad-Gita, not that he's right, that the soul is neither moistened by water nor burnt by fire.
The Lake of Fire is a pretty bewildering visage, when you've been taught it was Eternal, the doubt can drag you under and you could be there for a long, long time.
GPS or celestial coordinates please?
Considering the universe did not actually exist yet, there is no specific coordinates for it. Essentially, the BB happened everywhere.Where did the Big Bang happen? Have you got the celestial coordinates for that?
All religions look to the sky or high places when worshiping. So where is heaven or hell for that matter? Another dimension? Another universe? Another time?
If one considers the Earth's molten core to be a (very large) "lake of fire," then I suppose that is somewhat accurate.Heaven is high in the sky. Hell is deep in the Earth and described as a "lake of fire" in the Bible.
No, they are 2 separate things in the Bible...if you study the original Hebrew and Greek words, you'll see the difference...the word hades/sheol/hell originally conveyed no thought of heat or torment but simply of a covered over or concealed place/pit/hole...“death and hades” are to be cast into the lake of fire so it is evident that the lake cannot represent the death man has inherited from Adam...it must be symbolic of another kind of death...one that is without reversal/permanent...the Bible nowhere speaks of the “lake” as giving up those in it, as does Adamic death and hades/sheol/hell...Hell is deep in the Earth and described as a "lake of fire" in the Bible.
If one considers the Earth's molten core to be a (very large) "lake of fire," then I suppose that is somewhat accurate.
Considering the universe did not actually exist yet, there is no specific coordinates for it. Essentially, the BB happened everywhere.
Southern Arizona.
Too far North.Ain't it great on Interstate 8?
Too far North.
But it shares some of the finer qualities of the ass end of the state that thinks it owns us.
Exquisitor:There are stairs at the Great White Throne.
Cordelier:Exactly. But that's completely different from heaven, isn't it?
Now here's another question... would you say that we move through time at the speed of light?
No one knows the answer to that question.All religions look to the sky or high places when worshipping. So where is heaven or hell for that matter? Another dimension? Another universe? Another time?
No, John's visions are very revealing.Exquisitor:
Isn't that being unnecessarily judgemental? It's a trial to be so judgey and might not lead to the revelations you might expect to have. Exile in Patmos may have affected John, rather badly. And speaking of great white thrones, Mother Nature is beckoning me thither. Good night sir!
Cheers and be well.
Evilroddy.
The question was about where is Heaven? Not where the BB originated.Exactly. But that's completely different from heaven, isn't it?
Moving at the speed of light would cause time dilation.Now here's another question... would you say that we move through time at the speed of light?
I think most people might have a different mental picture of what constitutes Hell's "Lake of fire."Yep, that's it. Earth's core is extremely hot liquid.
Only by inclination. One of those "If I were king for a day" things. Gila Bend can come too.You're not one of those Gadsden types by any chance, are you?
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