First offense isn't even a felony in my state.
You drive drunk, you lose your license for 6 months and your vehicle becomes state property. Perhaps that will make folks think twice before doing something this dangerous and this avoidable.
it won't prevent a thing, people are not going to be worrying about the potential consequences when they're drunk.
If someone is caught driving under influence then fine them, take away their license and ban them for a period of time.
No second chances, everyone knows what the law is so ignorance is no excuse.
It doesn't matter how strict the laws get, people will always drink and drive. I am tired of MADD and other organizations like them trying to make getting from point A to point B more financially costly and difficult for the rest of us. Stop creating bureaucracy and all these permits for driving. The vast majority of the population know their limits and wouldn't put others in danger.
Laws that become more and more severe cannot save us from stupid people. It only makes life harder on everyone else.
it won't prevent a thing, people are not going to be worrying about the potential consequences when they're drunk.
TheIllinois Liquor Control Act, also known as the Dram Shop Act, gives any person injured by an intoxicated person the right to sue the intoxicated person, the vendor or person who sold the liquor to the intoxicated person, and the owner of the premises at which the intoxicated person became intoxicated, if it is in the business of selling liquor for a profit. Essentially, if the business is responsible for causing that person to become intoxicated illegally, the business owner may be liable. This area of the law is known as Dram Shop Law.
First offense isn't even a felony in my state.
When a politician's loved one is killed?
I just read about a nun getting killed and two others seriously injured on Sunday morning when an ILLEGAL immigrant with two prior DUI convictions ran into a car into the Subaru these ladies were in. He was NOT allowed to drive.
Driver in fatal Va. crash had previous DUI violations
That same morning, we have a father and his three sons going out to see a movie. They never came home because some effing scumbag who was drunk driving killed them. KILLED ALL 4 of them. I am disgusted.
Florida family hopes DUI tragedy will help prevent others - CNN.com
Maybe. But the consequences may prevent them from doing it again... considering they will no longer have a vehicle.
"The vast majority of the population know their limits and wouldn't put others in danger," is the epitome of someone who thinks there's a difference in being drunk and having a nice buzz.
It doesn't matter how strict the laws get, people will always drink and drive. I am tired of MADD and other organizations like them trying to make getting from point A to point B more financially costly and difficult for the rest of us. Stop creating bureaucracy and all these permits for driving. The vast majority of the population know their limits and wouldn't put others in danger.
Laws that become more and more severe cannot save us from stupid people. It only makes life harder on everyone else.
Irrelevant to this conversation. People don't go to prison for DWI except in the case of violating their probation or hitting a "habitual" level which makes them a felony (4 DWI convictions in 10 years in my state).The US has more people locked up per capita than any country in the world already.
And thank god for our government's persistance to ensure that your freedom doesn't infringe upon my rights or safety.So much for the old "land of the free" crap.
Again, irrelevant.Making a simple DUI a felony would increase our lead in this dubious catagory.
Even when personal property damage IS incurred the penalty is usually not much more if at all severe.Fatal accidents are always tragic, but there is no reason to treat anyone who has a .08 alcohol blood count while driving as a felon or even a criminal. Especially if no personal or property damage is incurred. What we need here are less laws and less imprisoned citizens. Let's not turn this country into the USSR champ...
You drive drunk, you lose your license for 6 months and your vehicle becomes state property. Perhaps that will make folks think twice before doing something this dangerous and this avoidable.
Not true. The word is on the street. In Illinois, get caught drunk driving, and it's going to cost you $5K or more. You may or may not lose your license unconditionally on the first offense. We have checkpoints where they pull drivers over. They've been found constitutional. More people than ever are planning ahead when they drink. Dram Shop litigation is not unusual:
Drunk/buzzed drivers kill innocent people every day. What a useless way to die.
That begs the question of whether ignorance is ALWAYS at play, though. Or rather, of the law versus how much they drinked and the level of imparity they are under. One issue is that many people can really hold their liquor better than others and will feel perfectly fine [and in some cases may seem to do just as well as somebody who is merely buzzed when it may not even be the case].
Still, though, the "buzzed driving = drunk driving" thing is complete crap. Buzzed = buzzed / impared != legally drunk [.08 and above].
I don't believe unlawful confiscation of property should be part of the punishment. They do that with drug offenses too, they'll take every bit of property they claim is related to it. But it's nothing more than State sponsored theft and nothing more. And I do not endorse the government stealing more of our money and property. No excessive punishment, that's it. We'll just have to deal with the consequences of being free.
When a politician's loved one is killed?
I just read about a nun getting killed and two others seriously injured on Sunday morning when an ILLEGAL immigrant with two prior DUI convictions ran into a car into the Subaru these ladies were in. He was NOT allowed to drive.
Driver in fatal Va. crash had previous DUI violations
That same morning, we have a father and his three sons going out to see a movie. They never came home because some effing scumbag who was drunk driving killed them. KILLED ALL 4 of them. I am disgusted.
Florida family hopes DUI tragedy will help prevent others - CNN.com
... and there isn't a difference? I mean, yes you can be severly impared even before being drunk, but to equate being on a light buzz after 1 drink and being drunk is intellectually dishonest, IMO.
It's already taken seriously. The punishments for DUI are hefty indeed. Well more than what they should be. At least when no casualties or property damage are involved. But let's be serious here. There will never be zero incidents of drunk driving; it's always going to exist on some level due to both cars and booze being legal in this country. I think people tend to freak out and over react a lot, especially in something as emotionally charged as drunk driving cases. And we've gone so far as to endorse things like check points (I know the SCOTUS says they're fine, but I don't see it as anything other than an illegal search), horrible amounts of fines, jail time, etc. Complete over punishment, and because of the money that goes to the State because of it, it's treated more as a fundraiser ticket than anything else.
... and there isn't a difference? I mean, yes you can be severly impared even before being drunk, but to equate being on a light buzz after 1 drink and being drunk is intellectually dishonest, IMO.
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