If life is a right, then health care is a right. And health care is two words, not one word.
I read an article that showed most people favored the specific aspects of the law, but opposed the law overall. Seems to be the opposition has done a great job in giving the ACA a bad name....
Anyway it is time for a single payer system, but lets just hope they don't shut down the government over this malarkey.
Hey....sooooo...I heard that people would need to show a valid ID card to sign up for Obamacare............................
If life is a right, then health care is a right. And health care is two words, not one word.
You use the word "IF" let me assure you "life is not a right". Where did you ever get the idea that "life is a right" and how do you equate "health care is a right". Let me ask you, who are you to demand health care from anyone? Let me tell you. If your dying in the street and I'm standing over you, I could give a **** if you live or die. And I could care less what "right" you think you have. I have the right to walk away and let you die, because that is my "right"
Ok, head over to the science part of the forum and lets talk particle physics.
C'mon, it's a challenge. Lets see of you can "keep up".
I mean you already made a fool out of yourself ONCE, so lets see if you can keep up with even a laymans discussion of the grand unifying theory or Super String theory.
And you're full of sh** as usual on your supposed understanding of the Sub-prime collapse and Fannie and Freddies input.
The private markets held 7.8 million total in sub-prime, alt-a and CRA loans by 2008.
The GSE's held 19.2 million loans or securities backed by sub-prime loans by 2008, but of-course, the private markets were responsible for the "majority"...
I'll cut you some slack, after reading your innacurate and clumsy description of quantum particle supposition.
You know, maybe you think " majority" means something entitely different than its actual meaning, but never the less, your'e still wrong.
Without a buyer, and without a buyer that was allowed to qualify the risk factor of its own debt, and allowed to manipulate the value of their own securities, there would have NOT been a sub-prime bubble.
Because those securities without the backing of the Democrat party, would have been worthless.
Only Fannie and Freddie could have gotten away with piling up so much debt, with so little capital requirements.
READ the SEC report on the 6 F and F executives that were CONVICTED of securities fraud, and then go from there.
The fact that the largest consumer of sub-prime debt and securities backed by sub-prime debt was allowed to arbitrarilly qualify its own collateral means nothing to you lefties.
The country does NOT want Obamacare!
RealClearPolitics - Election Other - Public Approval of Health Care Law
Notice how people only use popular American opinion when it agrees with them...Don't many of us realize that most Americans are just plain dumb? I mean, EVEN IF you put aside the REALLY unaware ones, the ones who can't name the vice president and think Africa is a country...even semi-politically aware Americans change their minds en masse like they are the god damn weather. This shouldn't really be part of the argument. The law was voted on by elected representatives, signed by the president, and affirmed (mostly) by the highest court of the land, AND THEN that same president was RE-ELECTED. So obviously this issue wasn't important enough to get American's out to vote Obama out, even if they have problems with the law...and actually, if you look at poll statistics on specific parts of the ACA, many parts retain full support by a vast majority of the American public.
So you think Obamacare is good for the country?
I think it's a vast improvement over what we have now, which, for those not old enough to qualify for Medicare and not poor enough to qualify for Medicaid, is nothing.
But it's not enough. We need total coverage. There is no "national security" without health security.
Of course the more government freebies the better. 17 trillion in debt and Obama adding a trillion a yr. no big deal. Have to have more entitlements no matter the cost.
Democrat = more entitlements and kill jobs = more Democrats.
So you think Obamacare is good for the country?
Congress has worse approval ratings.
Funny but in the years after that event we had the greatest economic growth ever and the middle class rose out of poverty for the first time in history. We sure could use some of that action today
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Obama is just spending out of control!.... I heard that he wanted to start giving everyone free cars now?
Completely irrelevant to my points sir.
Nice chart, now post up the national debt increases by president and who got the US downgrade the first time in US history. I mean really, Obama has increased the national debt more than any president before him combined. Further Obama has increased the national debt by over 1 trillion each and every year he has been in office. Of course you progressives have no concern about the national debt, as long as you get yours and don't have to pay a dime back. You could care less who has to bay back the debt as long as it's not you.
Born Free,.... obviously the spending hasn't increased dramatically, so the debt increased due to lack of tax revenue.... maybe because of some sort of recession we had? Also realize that the national debt was worse after WW2, and I don't think any of us "paid" it back.
You need to realize that we would have perfect credit if it wasn't for Republicans
The world has enough faith in us to use us as their bank, and people trust the US enough to lend us this money at low rates. Tell me how if you took out a loan for a house, one day the lender would come and force you to pay it all back at one instant?Inform me how the National Debt is such a huge issue, especially when the deficit is decreasing every year.
Nice chart, now post up the national debt increases by president and who got the US downgrade the first time in US history. I mean really, Obama has increased the national debt more than any president before him combined. Further Obama has increased the national debt by over 1 trillion each and every year he has been in office. Of course you progressives have no concern about the national debt, as long as you get yours and don't have to pay a dime back. You could care less who has to bay back the debt as long as it's not you.
I wonder if anything happened in late 2007 and early 2008 to explain this? I'm sure if it had economists would have discovered it by now.
The country does NOT want Obamacare!
Why don't the fringe Republicans understand that budgeting process is not the place to force a removal of a piece of legislation that has already cleared all branches of the federal government. Holding the country hostage because things didn't go your way is both immature and pathetic.
Typical liberal response, I didn't do it, it's all your fault. The truth is all these trillions that have increased the national debt is all Obama's from the day he was elected. Further the trillion dollar stimulus was all Obama's, he did not get one Republican vote in support of it. Same with his idiot Obamacare, not one Republican vote.
And how else are they to defund it? Democrats won't pass a budget.
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