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When Trump does it, it is not against the law!!

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That is what MAGA people think. It reminds me of Nixon saying that when the president does it , it is not illegal. Nixon found out that it was not true and got run out of office and had to be pardoned to keep out of jail. Now we have he MAGA group that believe that no matter what Trump does, it is not illegal even if he steals documents from the White House, boxes and boxes full of them. there is a woman serving time, four years, for taking one document from the government. There were no negotiations giving her a chance to bring it back, just a short trial. So we know he broke the law and yet when he refused to give all of them back and the government had to get a warrant and go get them, do the MAGA crowd blame their cult leader, no, they blame the DOJ and the FBI for doing their duty. SO for them, when Trump does it, there is no crime. The crime is taking Trump's stolen stuff from him by the FBI.
 
independentusa said:
That is what MAGA people think. It reminds me of Nixon saying that when the president does it , it is not illegal. Nixon found out that it was not true and got run out of office and had to be pardoned to keep out of jail. Now we have he MAGA group that believe that no matter what Trump does, it is not illegal even if he steals documents from the White House, boxes and boxes full of them. there is a woman serving time, four years, for taking one document from the government. There were no negotiations giving her a chance to bring it back, just a short trial. So we know he broke the law and yet when he refused to give all of them back and the government had to get a warrant and go get them, do the MAGA crowd blame their cult leader, no, they blame the DOJ and the FBI for doing their duty. SO for them, when Trump does it, there is no crime. The crime is taking Trump's stolen stuff from him by the FBI.
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again, if they can prove that he stole classified documents from the federal government, then he deserves punishment... how much depends on what they were.

however, I remain adamant that the current federal government does not automatically deserve my trust due to previous BS they have tried to claim and I will approach this cautiously with an eye on both as the facts are revealed.

but i have to say, this is the last straw. they either need some serious proof of crimes or else their politics are destroyed.

Trump wins 2024., if they cannot do so.

and we better get some facts WAY before then, or else i WILL NOT believe them. this drawing it out BS = lying now.
 
The truth is that nobody cares about this but for the specific person involved.
 
independentusa said:
That is what MAGA people think. It reminds me of Nixon saying that when the president does it , it is not illegal. Nixon found out that it was not true and got run out of office and had to be pardoned to keep out of jail. Now we have he MAGA group that believe that no matter what Trump does, it is not illegal even if he steals documents from the White House, boxes and boxes full of them. there is a woman serving time, four years, for taking one document from the government. There were no negotiations giving her a chance to bring it back, just a short trial. So we know he broke the law and yet when he refused to give all of them back and the government had to get a warrant and go get them, do the MAGA crowd blame their cult leader, no, they blame the DOJ and the FBI for doing their duty. SO for them, when Trump does it, there is no crime. The crime is taking Trump's stolen stuff from him by the FBI.
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Yes, the law is only of use to them when they can use it against their opponents. Their ultimate projection is claiming the left are doing that. As we've seen, they were not able to prove the elction was stolen after trying for over a year, yet here now is the DoJ able to get a search warrant for probable cause of violation of The Espionage Act against Trump! Who's corrupt? :rolleyes:
 
BlueTex said:
LOL.... You don't care about national security?
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I care about things that impact me in my daily life. I’m not expending a bunch of calories on political voyeurism - which is what this is all about. You don’t really care about it either except that Trump is involved.
 
Napoleon said:
The truth is that nobody cares about this but for the specific person involved.
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Presidential records are the property of the US government and should not be stored in Trump's private residence. Do you agree or disagree?
 
JMB802 said:
Presidential records are the property of the US government and should not be stored in Trump's private residence. Do you agree or disagree?
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I don’t care. Why do you? Were you planning a trip to the National Archives to view every doodle Trump ever made?
 
JMB802 said:
Why not answer the question? It's simple, agree or disagree.
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The answer is neither because I don’t care. But I am interested in knowing why you and others are acting so butt hurt over something that doesn’t affect you at all.
 
BlueTex said:
LOL.... You don't care about national security?
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Apparently, it's totally fine if the documents contain info, that if got into the wrong hands, could compromise the safety of the military or other US personnel.
 
Napoleon said:
The answer is neither because I don’t care. But I am interested in knowing why you and others are acting so butt hurt over something that doesn’t affect you at all.
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How is asking a question being "butt hurt"? :rolleyes:

Presidential records are the property of the US government and should not be stored in Trump's private residence. Do you agree or disagree?
 
JMB802 said:
How is asking a question being "butt hurt"? :rolleyes:

Presidential records are the property of the US government and should not be stored in Trump's private residence. Do you agree or disagree?
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Again, the answer is neither because I don’t care.
 
Napoleon said:
Again, the answer is neither because I don’t care.
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So you don't care if military or other US personnel could potentially be in danger because of the way the documents were handled?
 
If a president has to be above the law for life in order to preserve the union, then I support eliminating the office entirely as the next logical step away from monarchy.
 
Napoleon said:
I care about things that impact me in my daily life. I’m not expending a bunch of calories on political voyeurism - which is what this is all about. You don’t really care about it either except that Trump is involved.
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How did the woman in Nebraska having an abortion impact your daily life, that you started a thread to discuss?
 
JMB802 said:
Just to recap. You don't care if Presidential records are stolen or mishandled. You don't care about protecting the military or other US personnel.

Very patriotic.
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And neither do you but for the fact that Trump is involved. I could bury you in equivalent what if scenarios and I guarantee you’d deflect. Whether or not documents are sent to the National Archive or otherwise mishandled doesn’t impact you. And you don’t care except to the extent your partisanship dictates.
 
Napoleon said:
And neither do you but for the fact that Trump is involved. I could bury you in equivalent what if scenarios and I guarantee you’d deflect.
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You could bury me? Sounds violent.

Check my posting history. I'm not some partisan hack that rushes into every thread to defend my political heroes. I think it's juvenile.

edited to add - LOL, how many times are you going to edit the post that I already quoted?
 
JasperL said:
How did the woman in Nebraska having an abortion impact your daily life, that you started a thread to discuss?
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In the context of the legal landscape and the decisions we’ll soon be making at the ballot box? You tell me. Lol.
 
Helix said:
If a president has to be above the law for life in order to preserve the union, then I support eliminating the office entirely as the next logical step away from monarchy.
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And with Trump it would an anarchic monarchy.
 
Napoleon said:
The truth is that nobody cares about this but for the specific person involved.
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The truth is that's a very odd way to divert from the thread topic. It's obviously nonsense, because at a minimum everyone involved at the FBI and DoJ all the way up to Wray and Garland, and National Archives cares, the judge cares, the media are running stories all day because they know the public cares, on both sides, and the dozen or more threads on this topic, with replies from MAGAs and anti-MAGAs, in the now I'm sure hundreds of pages indicate lots of people on DP "care" or else the threads would die.

I could explain why I think it matters, which is simple, because some of the issues involved here do MATTER, but that's beside the point. Saying "nobody cares" is just clearly wrong in every way.

So it's not clear what your point is. Curious stuff as it always is when someone comes into a thread to repeatedly insist that they don't care about the thread topic and to prove it they're wasting time repeatedly posting in a thread about a topic they insist has no interest to them.
 
Napoleon said:
The truth is that nobody cares about this but for the specific person involved.
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Yeah, that's why it has been the #1 topic on many social media sites and cable news channels...
 
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