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A sociopath can be taught to pretend to have empathy.
Which is really all that's necessary. What does it matter what's going on inside a person's mind, as long as they behave properly?
but that is the problem, if they are only pretending to have empathy how can you be assured that they will not revert to their natural state of behavior. you cannot cure the root cause of sociopathic behavior any more than you can train a rattlesnake not to bite.
I am fine with this as long as you are okay with not killing them should society decide to remove the death penalty.
You most certainly can train a rattlesnake not to bite. It's actually pretty easy. The basis of this opinion about "natural state" assumes an innate superiority of some people over others, unmodified by one's surroundings. That is the credo of Nazis and the KKK. Not saying you're either of these, but pointing out the flaw in that supposition. Modern psychology very clearly points to much of our behavior being a result of outside influences. All behavior can be modified. For a very visceral instance of this, see the movie from which my avatar is drawn.
It is never alright to kill. If you end a life, you destroy any potential good that could come from it. No one, ever, is past saving. If someone has a mental disability, and cannot function normally in society, then it falls to us to find a place for that person. Everyone is capable of doing good. Destroying that potential is callous, evil, and cowardly.
Everyone is capable of doing good. Destroying that potential is callous, evil, and cowardly.
modern psychology, for the most part, is BS and witchcraft. and, contrary to popular opinion some people are innately superior to others. some are smarter, some are stronger, some are faster.
that "all men are created equal" is one of the biggest lies ever told. everyone should have equal opportunity, but we are most definitely NOT all created equal.
First of all... who are you responding to? Please use the "Reply With Quote" link in the bottom right corner of the post when responding from now on, thanks.
I don't think that anybody has a problem with curing mental conditions, so I have no idea why you are indicating that we do. The world would obviously be better off, I know I would not have had to endure 8 years of marriage to one with Borderline Personality Disorder if that was the case. The issue with your argument is that you are presenting a great idea, cure all mental disorders, without a plan. What are we supposed to do then? Without a plan, we have to follow through with a consequence. If you are suggesting that each person who commits a crime undergo psychological testing and that they be kept alive and studied, then that is already happening for serious and unusual cases, if you suggest we experiment on them, that would be considered cruel and unusual.
What do you suggest then, oh compassionate one that thinks so lowly of the rest of us unevolved sub-humans from the third century...
First off, it is a 7th Century definition... What are you saying? That Stalin wasn't evil, he was just sick? Duh, that is obvious. Evil is an adjective, genuis... not a tangible thing. I am sure that I know far more about mentally sick people then you do, if for no other reason that I was married to one.
I don't think it hasn't?
What makes you think that I am not a scientist, and I do know many scientists and psychologists who think like I do, so what about that snoop dog?
During the Black Plague, they certainly did think that people could be cured. They just couldn't find the cure...
You know as much about history as you do psychology... and that ain't much.
It is never alright to kill. If you end a life, you destroy any potential good that could come from it. No one, ever, is past saving. If someone has a mental disability, and cannot function normally in society, then it falls to us to find a place for that person. Everyone is capable of doing good. Destroying that potential is callous, evil, and cowardly.
It is never alright to kill. If you end a life, you destroy any potential good that could come from it. No one, ever, is past saving. If someone has a mental disability, and cannot function normally in society, then it falls to us to find a place for that person. Everyone is capable of doing good. Destroying that potential is callous, evil, and cowardly.
So you see good in the likes of Manson, Jeffry Dahmar, T. McVay, etc? The problem with the death penality is it takes way to long to carry out. Convicted felons sit for years waiting.
Yeah, if they'd done it to the man, they'd still need to die. No matter how much worse it is to hurt women and children than to hurt men.
You have done a good job in trying to disprove my posts but what I want to know is what you personally think about this particular issue. What is your solution? Continue with the same system?
It is never alright to kill. If you end a life, you destroy any potential good that could come from it. No one, ever, is past saving. If someone has a mental disability, and cannot function normally in society, then it falls to us to find a place for that person. Everyone is capable of doing good. Destroying that potential is callous, evil, and cowardly.
Excerpted from “Home invasion victim's ordeal goes on” By Bob Greene, CNN Contributor, CNN, October 4, 2010 6:22 a.m. EDT
[SIZE="+2"]B[/SIZE]oth men … offered to plead guilty in exchange for life sentences instead of the death penalty.
why is the life of the person that killed someone I love, considered an equal trade for my loved one? how can some total stranger assume that by sentencing the offender to death, things will automatically be squared up? it's not and it never will be. it won't bring closure, that has to come from within.
if anyone is interested, there's a website out there that opposes the death penalty. they campaign on behalf of murder victims and their families.
these a real people, real stories. absolutely heartbreaking. these people know what it's like to lose someone they loved very much, and they are completely against the death penalty. some of them have witnessed the death penalty being carried out and they say that it gives them absolutely no peace at all. in fact it just creates more victims.
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why is the life of the person that killed someone I love, considered an equal trade for my loved one? how can some total stranger assume that by sentencing the offender to death, things will automatically be squared up? it's not and it never will be. it won't bring closure, that has to come from within.
if anyone is interested, there's a website out there that opposes the death penalty. they campaign on behalf of murder victims and their families.
these a real people, real stories. absolutely heartbreaking. these people know what it's like to lose someone they loved very much, and they are completely against the death penalty. some of them have witnessed the death penalty being carried out and they say that it gives them absolutely no peace at all. in fact it just creates more victims.
i am sorry for your loss.I disagree. My best friend was murdered in a senseless crime at the age of 24. He was like a brother to me, and he was his widowed mother's only son. She was inconsolable and I wasn't much better off.
The fact that both of the murderers have been put to death was indeed a comfort to both of us, and yes it did help us attain a sense of closure. Justice had been done.
Not much of a debater, are you?
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