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When RINO`s attack. Romney, Rubio and Jeb working to attack down Trump

So, we have a catch 22: Robots that can replace illegal workers haven't been developed as yet as the illegals are supplying such cheap labor, so we keep importing illegals in order to provide cheap labor.

Actually, I think we're a few years away from machines that can do most of the work that the illegals do. Maybe if there was no pool of cheap labor, R and D would proceed more quickly.

But, the government has no interest in ending illegal immigration, and won't until the work they do can actually be done by machine.

They already exist.

Intelligent Sensing Agriculture Robots To Harvest Crops - Forbes

https://www.asme.org/engineering-topics/articles/robotics/smart-robots-for-picking-fruit

Solar-Powered Robot Farmers Are Almost Ready to Start Working the Land | Motherboard

What will we do with millions of unemployable people?
 
Being in real estate, no one has trumped more than Trump from immigration.

He probably wants more rich immigrants than poor ones.
 
It's going to be hilarious when the robots start demanding a living wage .... :lamo
 

They are beginning to exist, and may one day be practical enough to replace the unskilled laborers.

And, I agree that R and D would likely bring that about more quickly if there were no pool of cheap labor.

The last question is a knotty one: What do we do with millions of unemployable people? That issue exists right now, today, without any machines taking over the jobs done by illegals.

and a lot of those unemployable people are American citizens.
 
They are beginning to exist, and may one day be practical enough to replace the unskilled laborers.

And, I agree that R and D would likely bring that about more quickly if there were no pool of cheap labor.

The last question is a knotty one: What do we do with millions of unemployable people? That issue exists right now, today, without any machines taking over the jobs done by illegals.

and a lot of those unemployable people are American citizens.

Like it or not, things like a government guaranteed wage will have to be established. Contrary to what the "mine, mine, mine, all mine I earned it in a vacuum and no one has a right to a dime of it but me, crowd wants, it will be that or face a new Bastille Day.
 
Machines don't pick fruit, make hotel beds, bus tables, or pour concrete, at least not yet and not in any practical way. When they do, then the move to end illegal immigration may pick up some steam. Until then, some of the Republicans will pay lip service to the idea and try to blame the problem on Democrats. Other than that, the federal government will do squat regardless of which party is in power, just as they have done squat for the past sixty years.

Not even then since the truth is(and Bush's platform explicitly requires it) that the extra people are needed to drive decent growth of the economy.
 
They are beginning to exist, and may one day be practical enough to replace the unskilled laborers.

And, I agree that R and D would likely bring that about more quickly if there were no pool of cheap labor.

The last question is a knotty one: What do we do with millions of unemployable people? That issue exists right now, today, without any machines taking over the jobs done by illegals.

and a lot of those unemployable people are American citizens.

Thank you...Why are we taking in any more people when automation is a very real issue?
 
The man has hit a nerve and many Americans are sick of the lies.

No doubt there, I just don't believe making a list of scapegoats with no real solution will carry very far with the voters in the end.
 
Not even then since the truth is(and Bush's platform explicitly requires it) that the extra people are needed to drive decent growth of the economy.

No it is not, Japan, Switzerland, South Korea.


The implicit assumption behind the economic argument for immigration appears to be something like this:

Labor x Capital = Economic Growth

So, for any given capital stock, any increase in labor (putting aside the question of its quality) will result in at least some increase in output.

This assumption is just wrong. Typically, technical studies that attempt to account for economic growth find that increases in labor and capital account for at most half and often much less of increases in output. Simon Kuznets`s survey of the growth of the West over the last two centuries concluded that increases in labor and physical capital together were responsible for less than 10 per cent of the greatest output surge in human history. The rest seems to be attributable to changes in organization—to technological progress and ideas. Or:

Economic Growth = Labor x Capital x {???}

And {???} is dominant.

The {???} factor is the explanation for the great counter-factual episode hanging like the sword of Damocles over contemporary pro-immigration polemics: the success of Japan since World War II. Despite its population of only 125 million and virtually no immigration at all, Japan has grown into the second-largest economy on earth. The Japanese seem to have been able to substitute capital for labor, in the shape of factory robots. And they have apparently steadily reconfigured their economy, concentrating on high value-added production, exporting low-skilled jobs to factories in nearby cheap-labor countries rather than importing the low-skilled labor to Japan.

It is highly significant of the false nature of the American immigration debate that, despite all the public hysteria about Japan, no attempt is ever made to look for lessons in its immigration policy. Incredibly, although his book is called The Economic Consequences of Immigration, Julian Simon simply ignores the subject altogether. Asked about it by Forbes magazine`s Jim Cook, he in effect struck out: “How Japan gets along I don`t know. But we may have to recognize that some countries are sui generi s.”
 
No doubt there, I just don't believe making a list of scapegoats with no real solution will carry very far with the voters in the end.

They are not scapegoats, illegals are a group that is to blame for illegal immigration, allow with the "cheap" labor lobby.

We have real solutions, border fences, no more citizenship for kids of illegals, no more visa overstays, no more mass immigration, no more political correctness, no more lies, no more inaction.
 
Thank you...Why are we taking in any more people when automation is a very real issue?

Because the people who hire illegal aliens have money to pay lobbyists to see to it that the immigration reform doesn't happen.
 
Because the people who hire illegal aliens have money to pay lobbyists to see to it that the immigration reform doesn't happen.

Dont they understand if they are given the right to vote they will vote in hard core leftist that will tax their wealth away to buy votes?

Are they that dumb?
 
They do in some states and what if they are given ciztenship?

In no state is it legal for illegal aliens to vote. They aren't being given citizenship anywhere in this country. And, they mostly lie low hoping not to be noticed.

No, illegals aren't being allowed to come in to the country in order to vote. They're being allowed in in order to bring down wages.
 
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