When Liberals Club People, It’s With Love In Their Hearts

[chuckiechan]

https://townhall.com/columnists/ann...people-its-with-love-in-their-hearts-n2369688

Apparently, as long as violent leftists label their victims “fascists,” they are free to set fires, smash windows and beat civilians bloody. No police officer will stop them. They have carte blanche to physically assault anyone they disapprove of, including Charles Murray, Heather Mac Donald, Ben Shapiro, me and Milo Yiannopoulos, as well as anyone who wanted to hear us speak.

Even far-left liberals like Evergreen State professor Bret Weinstein will be stripped of police protection solely because the mob called him a “racist.”

If the liberal shock troops deem local Republicans “Nazis” — because some of them support the duly elected Republican president — Portland will cancel the annual Rose Festival parade rather than allow any Trump supporters to march.

They’re all “fascists”! Ipso facto, the people cracking their skulls and smashing store windows are “anti-fascists,” or as they call themselves, “antifa.”

We have no way of knowing if the speakers at the Charlottesville “Unite the Right” rally last weekend were “Nazis,” “white supremacists” or passionate Civil War buffs, inasmuch as they weren’t allowed to speak. The Democratic governor shut the event down, despite a court order to let it proceed.

We have only visuals presented to us by the activist media, showing some participants with Nazi paraphernalia. But for all we know, the Nazi photos are as unrepresentative of the rally as that photo of the drowned Syrian child is of Europe’s migrant crisis. Was it 1 percent Nazi or 99 percent Nazi?

As the “Unite the Right” crowd was dispersing, they were forced by the police into the path of the peace-loving, rock-throwing, fire-spraying antifa. A far-left reporter for The New York Times, Sheryl Gay Stolberg, tweeted live from the event: “The hard left seemed as hate-filled as alt-right. I saw club-wielding ‘antifa’ beating white nationalists being led out of the park.”

So what is a society to do when it is taken over by the AntiFa media? The media lost it's Russia story, so now Terry Mcaullife in Charlottesville engineers another one. Democrats are the radical left antifa, but only they and the MSM gets to decide who is labeled "fa" and who isn't.

BTW, in the interest of transparency:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/local/mcauliffe-clinton/
https://www.washingtonpost.com/loca...f8e0dd91dc7_story.html?utm_term=.fccb4637c4b3
https://www.wsj.com/articles/clinton-ally-aids-campaign-of-fbi-officials-wife-1477266114

Mcaullife is an operative of the Clinton Machine

 

[code1211]

https://townhall.com/columnists/ann...people-its-with-love-in-their-hearts-n2369688



So what is a society to do when it is taken over by the AntiFa media? The media lost it's Russia story, so now Terry Mcaullife in Charlottesville engineers another one. Democrats are the radical left antifa, but only they and the MSM gets to decide who is labeled "fa" and who isn't.

BTW, in the interest of transparency:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/local/mcauliffe-clinton/
https://www.washingtonpost.com/loca...f8e0dd91dc7_story.html?utm_term=.fccb4637c4b3
https://www.wsj.com/articles/clinton-ally-aids-campaign-of-fbi-officials-wife-1477266114

Mcaullife is an operative of the Clinton Machine

It's interesting that the mean girls approach of our media is actively and blatantly attacking anyone who opposes their narrative of this event and condemning all who don't actively support their narrative as racists.

I watched NBC Nightly News and was appalled at the slanted, biased presentation of the event. There was no representation of any bad acts on the part of the Antifa paticipants.

There were no interviews of the Antifa participants. The White Supremacists were interviewed. There was no video at all of the Antifa participants presented. The costumed White Supremacists were presented in video.

I am not supporting the White Supremacists or the Antifa's.

I am only addressing the propagandists who are deceptively presenting slanted narratives that they would like us to accept as journalism.

 

[JamesBY]

https://townhall.com/columnists/ann...people-its-with-love-in-their-hearts-n2369688



So what is a society to do when it is taken over by the AntiFa media? The media lost it's Russia story, so now Terry Mcaullife in Charlottesville engineers another one. Democrats are the radical left antifa, but only they and the MSM gets to decide who is labeled "fa" and who isn't.

BTW, in the interest of transparency:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/local/mcauliffe-clinton/
https://www.washingtonpost.com/loca...f8e0dd91dc7_story.html?utm_term=.fccb4637c4b3
https://www.wsj.com/articles/clinton-ally-aids-campaign-of-fbi-officials-wife-1477266114

Mcaullife is an operative of the Clinton Machine

Nonsense.

The Dems have a small small group of antifascists who fight the Alt Right with their own weapons.

 

[RabidAlpaca]

Apparently, as long as violent leftists label their victims “fascists,” they are free to set fires, smash windows and beat civilians bloody. No police officer will stop them.

I think it's hilarious how quickly conservative attitudes towards cops change when it's white people being beaten. Those damn liberal cops!

I'd take you more seriously if you were also condemning the armed nazis who committed violence last weekend.

 

[code1211]

Nonsense.

The Dems have a small small group of antifascists who fight the Alt Right with their own weapons.

Are you saying that the fringe groups on either end of the political spectrum are not fringe groups?

It seems to me that interests claimed by the two political parties have fringe elements that are, or should be, embarrassments to them.

However, the Fringe Right is presented by our media as violent oppressors with no justification for their violence while the Fringe Left is presented as oppressed victims with complete justification for their violence.

Where is MLK as we need his guidance desperately right now as much as we ever have?

 

[RabidAlpaca]

Are you saying that the fringe groups on either end of the political spectrum are not fringe groups?
It seems to me that interests claimed by the two political parties have fringe elements that are, or should be, embarrassments to them.
However, the Fringe Right is presented by our media as violent oppressors with no justification for their violence while the Fringe Left is presented as oppressed victims with complete justification for their violence.
Where is MLK as we need his guidance desperately right now as much as we ever have?

You seem upset that the media isn't treating both sides equally, yet the far right wants mass genocide and an ethno-state and the far left in this case is characterized by people who simply oppose that. You're trying to wrap in a bunch of other things as if everyone who counter-protested in Charlottesville was dyed in the wool antifa trying to overthrow the proletariat. In reality most were just regular Americans who didn't want nazis marching through their streets spreading anti-American hate.

In Charlottesville one side stood against American values and one side stood for them. It's not surprising why Americans and the American media favor one side over the other.

 

[JamesBY]

Are you saying that the fringe groups on either end of the political spectrum are not fringe groups? It seems to me that interests claimed by the two political parties have fringe elements that are, or should be, embarrassments to them. However, the Fringe Right is presented by our media as violent oppressors with no justification for their violence while the Fringe Left is presented as oppressed victims with complete justification for their violence. Where is MLK as we need his guidance desperately right now as much as we ever have?

You would segregate MLK if he were alive, code1211.

Stop the very poor propaganda.

There is no equivalent between the hard left anti-fascists and the alt right neo-fascist and neo-nazis and klan.

Why do you support white supremacism and hatred based on color, origin, and ethnicity?

 

[Grand Mal]

https://townhall.com/columnists/ann...people-its-with-love-in-their-hearts-n2369688



So what is a society to do when it is taken over by the AntiFa media? The media lost it's Russia story, so now Terry Mcaullife in Charlottesville engineers another one. Democrats are the radical left antifa, but only they and the MSM gets to decide who is labeled "fa" and who isn't.

BTW, in the interest of transparency:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/local/mcauliffe-clinton/
https://www.washingtonpost.com/loca...f8e0dd91dc7_story.html?utm_term=.fccb4637c4b3
https://www.wsj.com/articles/clinton-ally-aids-campaign-of-fbi-officials-wife-1477266114

Mcaullife is an operative of the Clinton Machine

What a stupid article. In the first place, those 'antifa' thugs aren't liberals and any idiot who doesn't know the difference shouldn't be published.

 

[Nickyjo]

Are you saying that the fringe groups on either end of the political spectrum are not fringe groups?

It seems to me that interests claimed by the two political parties have fringe elements that are, or should be, embarrassments to them.

However, the Fringe Right is presented by our media as violent oppressors with no justification for their violence while the Fringe Left is presented as oppressed victims with complete justification for their violence.

Where is MLK as we need his guidance desperately right now as much as we ever have?

I live in California... There was no justification in our media or among liberals for the anarchist and antifa morons whose violence ended planned speeches and damaged property at Berkeley.

 

[Kobie]

Yet another link to a factually bereft RW hack piece.

 

[code1211]

You would segregate MLK if he were alive, code1211.

Stop the very poor propaganda.

There is no equivalent between the hard left anti-fascists and the alt right neo-fascist and neo-nazis and klan.

Why do you support white supremacism and hatred based on color, origin, and ethnicity?

On the contrary, while you seem to be supporting the hate groups on the left, I both detest and reject the hate and violence from all points on the political spectrum.

MLK, were he alive today, would reject your hate and support of violence. MLK endorsed the rejection hate and violence in all forms from all sources.

Your hate blinds you to his message.

http://www.thekingcenter.org/king-philosophy
<snip>
SIX PRINCIPLES OF NONVIOLENCE

Fundamental tenets of Dr. King’s philosophy of nonviolence described in his first book, Stride Toward Freedom. The six principles include:

PRINCIPLE ONE: Nonviolence is a way of life for courageous people.
It is active nonviolent resistance to evil.

It is aggressive spiritually, mentally and emotionally.

PRINCIPLE TWO: Nonviolence seeks to win friendship and understanding.
The end result of nonviolence is redemption and reconciliation.

The purpose of nonviolence is the creation of the Beloved Community.

PRINCIPLE THREE: Nonviolence seeks to defeat injustice not people.
Nonviolence recognizes that evildoers are also victims and are not evil people.

The nonviolent resister seeks to defeat evil not people.

PRINCIPLE FOUR: Nonviolence holds that suffering can educate and transform.
Nonviolence accepts suffering without retaliation.

Unearned suffering is redemptive and has tremendous educational and transforming possibilities.

PRINCIPLE FIVE: Nonviolence chooses love instead of hate.
Nonviolence resists violence of the spirit as well as the body.

Nonviolent love is spontaneous, unmotivated, unselfish and creative.

PRINCIPLE SIX: Nonviolence believes that the universe is on the side of justice.
The nonviolent resister has deep faith that justice will eventually win.

Nonviolence believes that God is a God of justice.
<snip>

 

[code1211]

I live in California... There was no justification in our media or among liberals for the anarchist and antifa morons whose violence ended planned speeches and damaged property at Berkeley.

Perhaps the local coverage is different than the national coverage.

Could you cut and paste a typical news report from your local media?

 

[ttwtt78640]

You seem upset that the media isn't treating both sides equally, yet the far right wants mass genocide and an ethno-state and the far left in this case is characterized by people who simply oppose that. You're trying to wrap in a bunch of other things as if everyone who counter-protested in Charlottesville was dyed in the wool antifa trying to overthrow the proletariat. In reality most were just regular Americans who didn't want nazis marching through their streets spreading anti-American hate.

In Charlottesville one side stood against American values and one side stood for them. It's not surprising why Americans and the American media favor one side over the other.

Favoring a side should (does?) not justify violence.

 

[VanceMack]

Favoring a side should (does?) not justify violence.

Favoring antifa over the KKK or vice verse makes the individual that does so a vile reprehensible POS hypocrite.


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[ttwtt78640]

Favoring antifa over the KKK or vice verse makes the individual that does so a vile reprehensible POS hypocrite.


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Nope, favoring a side is completely acceptable - favoring violence by either side is unacceptable.

 

[Nickyjo]

Perhaps the local coverage is different than the national coverage.

Could you cut and paste a typical news report from your local media?

Not any where I could do that, as am on the road and don't have great skills in that area. What I remember most about the dust up in Berkeley was the comment -- previously posted here -- from a quintessential liberal Robert Reich, who said of Ann Coulter, let her speak... How else will we learn how vapid her ideas are? There were also some comments about how mischievious the campus republicans were in inviting Yiannopolis to speak. Aside from that, the reporting was pretty straightforward. It's hard for even us wimpy liberals to compose a sympathetic piece on anarchist crazies. What I think some conservatives don't realize is that these types have been around for years on the fringes of the left, pretending to be the left, or mistaken for the left. I saw it in my alleged "career" as an activist. It's sad that conservative or liberal arguments can get drowned by actions of extremists, but that's the show business of politics these days. The good news is that the police and media have become pretty savvy in separating out the unreasonable types from those pushing a defensible left or right agenda.

 

[code1211]

Not any where I could do that, as am on the road and don't have great skills in that area. What I remember most about the dust up in Berkeley was the comment -- previously posted here -- from a quintessential liberal Robert Reich, who said of Ann Coulter, let her speak... How else will we learn how vapid her ideas are? There were also some comments about how mischievious the campus republicans were in inviting Yiannopolis to speak. Aside from that, the reporting was pretty straightforward. It's hard for even us wimpy liberals to compose a sympathetic piece on anarchist crazies. What I think some conservatives don't realize is that these types have been around for years on the fringes of the left, pretending to be the left, or mistaken for the left. I saw it in my alleged "career" as an activist. It's sad that conservative or liberal arguments can get drowned by actions of extremists, but that's the show business of politics these days. The good news is that the police and media have become pretty savvy in separating out the unreasonable types from those pushing a defensible left or right agenda.

Opinion and news reporting are two vastly different things.

I am unceasingly impressed by the bias present in almost all news reports in our national media. This is presented in the inclusions, omissions, word choices and misrepresentations of opinions as facts.

I was hoping that you might present a piece of news reporting that I might be able to read critically.

 

[Grand Mal]

Favoring antifa over the KKK or vice verse makes the individual that does so a vile reprehensible POS hypocrite.


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Maybe a bit strong but I agree with the principle.
Also, idiots who call the antifa thugs 'liberals' (as the author of the article did) are just as stupid as the morons who call the Nazi thugs 'conservatives'.

 

[JamesBY]

Code1211, an ultimate white nationalist, wants to co-opt MLK Jr. as one of his own.

On the contrary, while you seem to be supporting the hate groups on the left, I both detest and reject the hate and violence from all points on the political spectrum.

The entire Civl Rights movement was dedicated to oppose the antiAmerican values of today's Alt Right

Code1211's hate blinds him to the decency and message of MLK Jr.

Vance Mack and Grand Mal et al are way over the top in equating the anti-fascists who opposed the Alt Right fascists in VA.

 

[Mason66]

You seem upset that the media isn't treating both sides equally, yet the far right wants mass genocide and an ethno-state and the far left in this case is characterized by people who simply oppose that. You're trying to wrap in a bunch of other things as if everyone who counter-protested in Charlottesville was dyed in the wool antifa trying to overthrow the proletariat. In reality most were just regular Americans who didn't want nazis marching through their streets spreading anti-American hate.

In Charlottesville one side stood against American values and one side stood for them. It's not surprising why Americans and the American media favor one side over the other.

Who is getting hurt?

Is it by the far rights words or the far lefts actions?

 

[Nickyjo]

Opinion and news reporting are two vastly different things.

I am unceasingly impressed by the bias present in almost all news reports in our national media. This is presented in the inclusions, omissions, word choices and misrepresentations of opinions as facts.

I was hoping that you might present a piece of news reporting that I might be able to read critically.

Looked a bit, but can't copy and paste. First fiund was a SF Chronicle, an editorially liberal newspaper (SFGate is their website) criticizing how free speech in Berkeley had flipped, with "kids" betraying their parents principles (April 22). Same paper on Feb. 8 did an interview with an anti-Milo organizer. Made him look ridiculous, but that may just be my take on it. Another article on Feb 11 went into detail on how police tactics had changed from the 60s.

In general, the impression I got was that coverage of milder protests of Milo and Coulter and attempts to engage their weird ideas got subsumed by the sexier story of "black-clad anarchists" smashing windows. I had to deal with the media a lot in my working days and quickly got the impression that, aside from print media (in general), broadcast media loved conflict, confrontation, snappy sound bites, etc. "If it bleeds, it leads," and all that. That seemed to be the controlling factor in their coverage rather than any bias.

 

[VanceMack]

Nope, favoring a side is completely acceptable - favoring violence by either side is unacceptable.

Favoring either 'side' is as vile ad reprehensible as the two groups. Any idiot that supports antifa must have their head wedged firmly up their own ass or are simply willfully ignoring their violent assaults over the last 18 months. The kkk are scum. Antifa is scum. Anyone that supports either group is scum.

 

[VanceMack]

Maybe a bit strong but I agree with the principle.
Also, idiots who call the antifa thugs 'liberals' (as the author of the article did) are just as stupid as the morons who call the Nazi thugs 'conservatives'.

There are indeed absolute differences between liberals and leftists. Antifa are not liberals. They are violent leftist scum.

 

[chuckiechan]

What a stupid article. In the first place, those 'antifa' thugs aren't liberals and any idiot who doesn't know the difference shouldn't be published.

They are whoever they claim to be, but they are the ones breaking windows and doing the dirty work beating up people for the democrats.

 

[Mach]

However, the Fringe Right is presented by our media as violent oppressors with no justification for their violence while the Fringe Left is presented as oppressed victims with complete justification for their violence.e?

No, I don't believe you understand the issue at hand.

The alt-right believes in core values that are unamerican, unethical, morally offensive, etc., they include white nationalists, but also the ones that like to sanitize their position and ride the line, opposing any/all racial politics out of a sense of victim-hood at the hands of the minority, backed by misguided government.

There are far more of these people, many Trump supporters, that are a real issue in the United States, as we have seen with the quality of president they chose, and the incredible lengths they go to excuse his misdeeds (for it is in their hearts that they agree with him).

The violence on both sides, is a minority/fringe aspect of the movements, and is common to many serious protest groups, and clashes through history. It is not the main issue, although you would sure like to try and twist the conversation to that, where there would be parity.

It's as obvious what you're trying to do, as it is that Trump is a ding-a-ling.