Have you actually looked into them? Went to their websites...saw their issues?
It seems like to me that you are making an opinion without looking into it.
Have you actually looked into them? Went to their websites...saw their issues?
It seems like to me that you are making an opinion without looking into it.
I have, I've looked in-depth at all of the 3rd parties that were running Presidential candidates this year and I have massive disagreements with every single platform out there.
While I don't think there's a chance in hell of a 3rd party candidate actually getting elected, especially since no 3rd party candidate can get more than 0.5% of the vote, I don't think it would really change anything unless said candidate's party also took over the majority of the Legislature too. Otherwise, the President would be largely ignored, they could veto up a storm and grind the government to a halt or, more likely, they'd end up going along with the majority party and it would be business as usual.
What would happen if an independent or 3rd party candidate were elected President?
- Change, real change, would happen. They would be beholden to nobody.
- Pretty much the same thing as always. They'd still have to compromise.
- Gridlock even worse than we have seen thus far. They'd have no friends and both parties would team up to thwart them.
- Something else.
The question presumes they would not have independent or members of their party on Congress of any size on which to rely.
At least you looked into it and found it wasn't for you.
Please note that the Libertarians were not my intent in asking the question, it was intended to be a generic "What if...?" question, but I understand the conversation going in that direction as they are the best known of the current 3rd parties.
Wow...what a horrible view. I completely disagree with you. The two party system is corrupt and ran by corporate special interest groups, but that is okay with you.
3rd Parties give different options to those issues you mentioned. Pretty simple when it comes to Libertarians...keep government out. There is no xenophobia so much as no entangling alliances. We're all for diplomacy and trade with nations...just against being forced by a group of nations to do something. Globalization is not good.
You need to learn and research a bit more because their issues are in black and white. It is more than generalizations. Its up to you as a responsible voter to understand them. To sit there and say the two party system is the best is naive and wrong.
Gridlock. Congress would unite to blockade that president like nothing you've ever seen in your lives.
Double-edged sword. The President of "No" can't make things worse. He also can't make things better. Essentially, it would result in a president treading water for 4 years with no real change, which - in my opinion - would be a loss overall in my book. Someone winning on a 3rd party platform would be elected by belief of change, which would be impossible.
Gridlock even worse, because he would get absolutely no partisan support from either party in Congress.
Blaming the voters for being uninformed will not get your Independent guy elected. The Democrats and Republicans are able to get elected because they are highly organized and can raise enough money to get their message to the American people. Independents, presently, have platitudes.
For the record, I would have loved Jill Stein to be president. In reality she had next to no money, no organization, and was thus hilariously unelectable.
This is a pet-peeve of mine. Other than the normal criteria for qualifying for office, i.e. age, residency, and so on, there should be ZERO limits to write-ins. If I want to vote for John Schmoe for President, and John Schmoe meets the regular criteria, then my vote for John Schmoe should count.Democrats and republicans are able to get elected due to name recognition that the media gives them and that is only with the democrats and republicans the media wants. And there is the fact many states screw 3rd parties with stiff ballot requirements, and ban on write-ins .The only reason most people know who Obama and Romney are is because the media did stories on them, the media invited them to appear on talk shows and only did presidential debates with those two candidates. Jill Stein and other 3rd party candidates did poorly simply because most people don't know who they are and or because republicans and democrats prevented them from appearing on the ballots. Its not the money.Money buys ads but those ads are mostly run in swing states.
What would happen if an independent or 3rd party candidate were elected President?
Democrats and republicans are able to get elected due to name recognition that the media gives them and that is only with the democrats and republicans the media wants. And there is the fact many states screw 3rd parties with stiff ballot requirements, and ban on write-ins .The only reason most people know who Obama and Romney are is because the media did stories on them, the media invited them to appear on talk shows and only did presidential debates with those two candidates. Jill Stein and other 3rd party candidates did poorly simply because most people don't know who they are and or because republicans and democrats prevented them from appearing on the ballots. Its not the money.Money buys ads but those ads are mostly run in swing states.
I would not exactly call this a "solution oriented" response.
Its not a solution oriented response. I am just pointing out that it is the lack of name recognition and the fact democrats and republicans in many states prevent 3rd parties from appearing on ballots, not the lack of organization or money that mostly contributed to a 3rd party candidate's loss. Although identifying the problem could lead to a solution, but that would requiring changing the Constitution to require media outlets to give equal time to all candidates or to no candidates at all.
And the same COULD apply to irresponsible conservative (wars) spending bills..All liberal tax/spending bills will be vetoed, and social agendas will be approved (but not funded).
We use cookies and similar technologies for the following purposes:
Do you accept cookies and these technologies?
We use cookies and similar technologies for the following purposes:
Do you accept cookies and these technologies?