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what was most compelling argument from Trump's Defense?

what was most compelling argument from Trump's Defense?

  • not an impeachable offense to withhold aid

    Votes: 3 23.1%
  • we can't read the president's mind

    Votes: 1 7.7%
  • Constitution (doesn't call this impeachable crime)

    Votes: 3 23.1%
  • The Democrats didn't have a valid impeachment

    Votes: 2 15.4%
  • can't decide or other

    Votes: 4 30.8%

  • Total voters
    13
  • Poll closed .

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what was most compelling argument from Trump's Defense?
 
what was most compelling argument from Trump's Defense?

The biggest thing is that the House rushed an impeachment before they had enough evidence to impeach. They should have waited to gather more evidence and then impeached and things may have turned out differently. But, with the election not too far away, Democrats felt that the lack of time trumped Trump's due process rights. It's even possible that if they had waited just one more month or two more months to impeach, they might have had Republicans in a much tougher spot. But, they knew the makeup of the Senate from day one and were hoping the reality show would work in their favor at election time.
 
The biggest thing is that the House rushed an impeachment before they had enough evidence to impeach. They should have waited to gather more evidence and then impeached and things may have turned out differently. But, with the election not too far away, Democrats felt that the lack of time trumped Trump's due process rights. It's even possible that if they had waited just one more month or two more months to impeach, they might have had Republicans in a much tougher spot.

I disagree

I think they knew they didn't have anything and that is one reason they waited. It could be they waited just to keep some of the candidates off th campaign trail... God knows.. but one thing I know:The Ds are all about politics
 
I loved the part where Trump's lawyers argued during impeachment that pursuing witness testimony was a place for the courts and not Congress, while simultaneously arguing in court that pursuing witness testimony was a place for Congress and not the courts.
 
The most compelling argument for Trump's defense is that a bunch of sore loser Hillary supporters hate Trump. They hate him so much they would put the country through this sham impeachment. Look deep into Schiff's eyes and tell me there's not a psychopath lurking n there.
 
The most compelling argument for Trump's defense is that a bunch of sore loser Hillary supporters hate Trump. They hate him so much they would put the country through this sham impeachment. Look deep into Schiff's eyes and tell me there's not a psychopath lurking n there.
omg

just the thought of looking deeply... OMG!!!!!!!!!!!!

please don't do that to me again:shock:

lol :)


he d idn't like it when Nadler usurped his position at the end of the hearing the other day...

but maybe even Dems are beginning to see the Schiffty one as a liability ??
 
This impeachment farce was drawn out way too long. It should have been concluded in one day when it was learned that dem managers had no evidence of intent.

Let's not forget that Hillary skated away from all her misdeeds for the same reason. FBI Director Comey said that although she mishandled classified information, and jeopardized the nation's security, her intent couldn't be proven so she had to be forgiven.
 
The most compelling argument for Trump's defense is that a bunch of sore loser Hillary supporters hate Trump. They hate him so much they would put the country through this sham impeachment. Look deep into Schiff's eyes and tell me there's not a psychopath lurking n there.

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what was most compelling argument from Trump's Defense?

there wasn't one.
 
Other: "So what?"

That his supporters simply do not care what he does is the only honest defense they have. Despicable, cowardly, unAmerican close to the point of treasonous, but at least they're being honest when they say it.

("At least" doesn't go very far at all)
 
what was most compelling argument from Trump's Defense?

The most compelling argument, indeed the only argument, was that a Senate dominated by republicans won't vote to remove a president who claims to be a Republican.

Partisanship rules. Facts don't matter.
 
what was most compelling argument from Trump's Defense?

That the Articles presented were not "High Crimes and misdemeanors" per the original intent of the Founder's.

In fact, under any legal interpretation of Lenity, Article I "abuse of power" was "void for vagueness."

That means it could "mean whatever the House claimed it meant," and that is NOT how crimes are defined.
 
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what was most compelling argument from Trump's Defense?

Well the most compelling thing for me was they tried to stop Trump from being elected again in 2020.

So far, no Senate has convicted any president.
 
The most compelling argument, indeed the only argument, was that a Senate dominated by republicans won't vote to remove a president who claims to be a Republican.

Partisanship rules. Facts don't matter.


Funny you make that an argument. When have Democrats impeached even one Democrat president?
 
This impeachment farce was drawn out way too long. It should have been concluded in one day when it was learned that dem managers had no evidence of intent.

Let's not forget that Hillary skated away from all her misdeeds for the same reason. FBI Director Comey said that although she mishandled classified information, and jeopardized the nation's security, her intent couldn't be proven so she had to be forgiven.

I know as republicans also understand this issue. Comey did not even leave it up to the House or Senate.
He assumed the role of dictator and declared she is not guilty.
 
I loved the part where Trump's lawyers argued during impeachment that pursuing witness testimony was a place for the courts and not Congress, while simultaneously arguing in court that pursuing witness testimony was a place for Congress and not the courts.

You believe the Shifty house managers is why you use that argument.

Shifty lied so many times he should be barred.I hope the CA bar strips Shifty of his law license for lying to Congress.
 
I disagree

I think they knew they didn't have anything and that is one reason they waited. It could be they waited just to keep some of the candidates off th campaign trail... God knows.. but one thing I know:The Ds are all about politics

Well, if you are going to be honest, with politicians, it's all about politics.
 
what was most compelling argument from Trump's Defense?

That he’s guilty of all the charges and definitely committed impeachable crimes, but that it would divide the country if he was removed. That was very compelling to those who were going to exonerate him anyway.
 
They haven't, which supports my argument that partisanship rules.
The Democrats have certainly insured that partisanship would dominate. It's a pity. This is one area the founders hoped would be above partisanship.

To answer the OP, the best defense is that he's genuinely innocent of all charges.
 
Is partisanship great? Must be, because it certainly rules government nowadays.

Actually I only resent what Democrats do when in office. Such as cast this country as full of evil and keep crafting new law upon new law, creating many layers of law as if they are our rulers. I resent them being our rulers.

Consider how they act when a law is stamped out or in general gives us all more freedom. They hate it and fight to restore laws.

When I was a Democrat, I undertook to study my own then party, Democrats. What I learned was so appalling I went to the republican party and never looked back.
 
This impeachment farce was drawn out way too long. It should have been concluded in one day when it was learned that dem managers had no evidence of intent.

Let's not forget that Hillary skated away from all her misdeeds for the same reason. FBI Director Comey said that although she mishandled classified information, and jeopardized the nation's security, her intent couldn't be proven so she had to be forgiven.

Don't think for one moment that a good many of the Senator's weren't thinking "just that" when they voted.
 
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