What two questions should I ask?

[Port & Starboard]

My sister sent me a link urging me to sign a petition to ban silencers and something else--I've already forgotten because I was irritated and deleted the e-mail. Every so often she brings up gun control and how it's "time, " and I dodge her every time because it's so obvious that she knows even less than I do about the various arguments, that she's just picking up on whatever Salon or The New Yorker have said.

She never has time to e-mail, but she e-mailed me the petition, so I know she's going to ask me over the weekend whether I've signed it. I would like to be ready with a couple of questions respectfully asked that reveal to her how little she understands about this issue (so she won't bug me anymore). And so I need help.

What questions should I ask her? For example, "Did you know that silencers don't really silence the sound of a gunshot?" What I don't want is to even try to discuss this issue with her; I just want her to hush up and let this go.

Thank you in advance.

1. Hey sis, did you know that cleaning a pistol after a target shoot can be quite relaxing?

2. Hey sis, did you know that a gun never killed a single human being?

 

[bearpoker]

Yeah, that's not gonna start a fight.

It takes 2 people to fight. Just say you can't honestly sign something you don't agree with. Period. Stone walls can be useful sometimes.

 

[Aberration]

Source?

The law.

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/921



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[joG]

My sister sent me a link urging me to sign a petition to ban silencers and something else--I've already forgotten because I was irritated and deleted the e-mail. Every so often she brings up gun control and how it's "time, " and I dodge her every time because it's so obvious that she knows even less than I do about the various arguments, that she's just picking up on whatever Salon or The New Yorker have said.

She never has time to e-mail, but she e-mailed me the petition, so I know she's going to ask me over the weekend whether I've signed it. I would like to be ready with a couple of questions respectfully asked that reveal to her how little she understands about this issue (so she won't bug me anymore). And so I need help.

What questions should I ask her? For example, "Did you know that silencers don't really silence the sound of a gunshot?" What I don't want is to even try to discuss this issue with her; I just want her to hush up and let this go.

Thank you in advance.

Ask her why she believes in things like forbidding silencers without knowing much about them.

 

[countryboy]

The law.

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/921



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I guess no one should be surprised about poorly written legislation. Thanks.

 

[Northern Light]

Maybe I'm wrong but it seems like your annoyance level is higher because you hold some resentment about her neglecting to have normal family contact with you. You know, to ask how one another is doing in life. I personally hate it when friends or family play on my loyalties even though they've dropped off the grid and don't know word one about what's going on with me.

If you don't want a discussion then don't create one. Just ask her to stop sending petitions and other political e-mails. You don't even have to say why. That's your right, isn't it?

You can always follow it up with how are you? How are the kids? Any plans for thanksgiving?

 

[Aberration]

I guess no one should be surprised about poorly written legislation. Thanks.

It’s one of the reasons the gun community insists upon calling them suppressors. Because the law, along with movies, give this impression that they do in fact silence a firearm. It was a marketing ploy used by Maxim who patented the first one.


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[ecofarm]

It takes 2 people to fight. Just say you can't honestly sign something you don't agree with. Period. Stone walls can be useful sometimes.

Look here, Ward, there's only one thing to be thankful for at Thanksgiving - lying.

 

[bearpoker]

Look here, Ward, there's only one thing to be thankful for at Thanksgiving - lying.

I suppose it all boils down to what kind of relationship you want to have with the people you love.

 

[ecofarm]

I suppose it all boils down to what kind of relationship you want to have with the people you love.

Are you asking to be trolled?

 

[Common Sense 1]

Banning a silencer won't make anyone more safe! Of the thousands of people shot in Chicago how many were shot with a weapon using a silencer?
Ask your sister if she has ever heard a news report where some was shot with a silencer. It rarely happens.
This is nothing more that an emotional appeal with zero facts behind it.


There are about 75,000 federal criminal prosecutions in the United States each year (see Table 1), and only about 25 in which there was a credible accusation of silencer use
was included in the database.

In federal prosecutions, a defendant can be charged with possession of a silencer during a crime, which carries a 30-year sentence, and if the silencer is homemade and
not licensed or serial numbered, persons convicted of these offenses can receive up to 10 years as well.

http://www.westerncriminology.org/documents/WCR/v08n2/clark.pdf

 

[bearpoker]

Are you asking to be trolled?

I really don't care.

 

[ecofarm]

I really don't care.

My Thanksgiving comment was hilarious. Lighten up.

 

[nota bene]

Maybe I'm wrong but it seems like your annoyance level is higher because you hold some resentment about her neglecting to have normal family contact with you. You know, to ask how one another is doing in life. I personally hate it when friends or family play on my loyalties even though they've dropped off the grid and don't know word one about what's going on with me.

If you don't want a discussion then don't create one. Just ask her to stop sending petitions and other political e-mails. You don't even have to say why. That's your right, isn't it?

You can always follow it up with how are you? How are the kids? Any plans for thanksgiving?

No, no; we are in routine contact through texts. Phone calls are dicey, though, because my sister has a 5-year old, and you know how unsatisfying texts are when you want to have a real talk. But I just know she's going to ask whether I signed the petition and then why not, so I want to head her off at the pass. We have plenty to talk about beyond progressive politics, and it makes me crazy how she doesn't keep up at all with politics but nevertheless parrots whatever Salon says. I've griped about this plenty here at DP.

And let me give you an example of why this is so frustrating. My sister and I share a best friend, and she takes all the political opinions from The New Yorker and Salon. Three nights ago on the phone, she told me that she finds news very upsetting and gets all her news from Seth Meyers. Yes.

I said nothing in response. I always say nothing. Got tired years ago of having lovely restaurant meals disturbed by comments apropos of nothing such as, "Bush just sucks, don't you think?" There is really no point in engaging with people like this even if you love them very much.

 

[nota bene]

All good suggestions so far. The very first thing I would tell her is, there's no such thing as a "silencer". They are called, supressors.

Well, I didn't even know that, so thank you.

 

[nota bene]

Personally, I wouldn't try to steer her with questions at all. I'd just tell her I was mentally debating the matter and would like to hear her side. THEN I'd blow her out of the water with facts.

As little as I myself know, this will probably be very easy. I figure two questions will get the job done and we'll move on to discussing the Halloween party she's planning and the totally cool "haunted" veranda she's already set up with actually creepy skeletons.

 

[nota bene]

1. What is a silencers, there are suppressors, but they are still loud.

2. how many times has a suppressor been used in a crime?

What is the answer to Q2? I have no idea.

 

[nota bene]

Tell her your spam filter must have flagged it.

This is a great dodge. But I can't lie. And she'd probably reply cheerily that she'll resend the link.

 

[jet57]

My sister sent me a link urging me to sign a petition to ban silencers and something else--I've already forgotten because I was irritated and deleted the e-mail. Every so often she brings up gun control and how it's "time, " and I dodge her every time because it's so obvious that she knows even less than I do about the various arguments, that she's just picking up on whatever Salon or The New Yorker have said.

She never has time to e-mail, but she e-mailed me the petition, so I know she's going to ask me over the weekend whether I've signed it. I would like to be ready with a couple of questions respectfully asked that reveal to her how little she understands about this issue (so she won't bug me anymore). And so I need help.

What questions should I ask her? For example, "Did you know that silencers don't really silence the sound of a gunshot?" What I don't want is to even try to discuss this issue with her; I just want her to hush up and let this go.

Thank you in advance.

Alright; first, you and you sister obviously have issues and secondly, you don't trust your own decision making process...

You have to weigh what you think is right and wrong on this issue. YOU have to decide, based on the latest evidence, what you think should go and what should stay with respect to guns and the toys that come with them. I use the word "toys" advisedly. Political rhetoric cannot be a part of your decision making process, or you are then just being disingenuous with yourself and your decision is thus polluted.

Read the petition and make sure you know what it says...

Your sister has no say-so in the matter.

 

[nota bene]

Alright; first, you and you sister obviously have issues and secondly, you don't trust your own decision making process...

You have to weigh what you think is right and wrong on this issue. YOU have to decide, based on the latest evidence, what you think should go and what should stay with respect to guns and the toys that come with them. I use the word "toys" advisedly. Political rhetoric cannot be a part of your decision making process, or you are then just being disingenuous with yourself and your decision is thus polluted.

Read the petition and make sure you know what it says...

Your sister has no say-so in the matter.

First, my sister and I don't have "issues." Second, I do trust my decision-making process; I promptly deleted the link she sent me.

 

[jet57]

First, my sister and I don't have "issues." Second, I do trust my decision-making process; I promptly deleted the link she sent me.

Well, to even a first grade psychologist; you and your sister have issues. Secondly, you don't trust your decision making process or you wouldn't have started this thread.

Google "silencers"...

 

[Black Dog]

First, my sister and I don't have "issues." Second, I do trust my decision-making process; I promptly deleted the link she sent me.

Well, to even a first grade psychologist; you and your sister have issues. Secondly, you don't trust your decision making process or you wouldn't have started this thread.

Google "silencers"...

And this is why he won asshat of the year. Any doubts have long since been erased, lol.

 

[jet57]

And this is why he won asshat of the year. Any doubts have long since been erased, lol.

Yeah, common sense and easy reads are kind'a hard to grasp, I know.

 

[Black Dog]

Yeah, common sense and easy reads are kind'a hard to grasp, I know.

No not at all. Hair brained assumptions based on a question? Yea that's asshat territory.

Anyway I suggest we return to the actual subject matter.

 

[ecofarm]

Yeah, common sense and easy reads are kind'a hard to grasp, I know.

I thought praising lying was pretty douchey, but I thought it was funny so I went with it a bit. But you, sir... you... go personal and thereby take the crown. Gratz.

After your move, my glorification of deception looks noble, righteous even. And so I'd like to thank you for making us all look good.