What questions would you like answered at the Zimmerman trial? [W:209:368:403]

[tashatexas77048]

Re: What questions would you like answered at the Zimmerman trial? [W:209]

Zimmerman supposedly shimmied in the grass on his ass with the full weight of someone on his body and the back of his jeans don't look anything like Trayvon's jeans. How does the person under attack and getting his ass beat walk away as clean as a whistle yet the socalled assailant was dirty and his clothes were pulled to the point that his hoodie was stretched and his white undershirt was visible?

 

[Grim17]

Re: What questions would you like answered at the Zimmerman trial? [W:209]

Zimmerman supposedly shimmied in the grass on his ass with the full weight of someone on his body and the back of his jeans don't look anything like Trayvon's jeans. How does the person under attack and getting his ass beat walk away as clean as a whistle yet the socalled assailant was dirty and his clothes were pulled to the point that his hoodie was stretched and his white undershirt was visible?

Eye witness testimony has already shown that Zimmerman was the man on the ground with Martin on top of him... You are questioning what has already been established as true.

 

[Gina]

Re: What questions would you like answered at the Zimmerman trial? [W:209]

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[tashatexas77048]

Re: What questions would you like answered at the Zimmerman trial? [W:209]

[sarcasm]IRREFUTABLE![/sarcasm] :lamo iLOL
And as the police already knew, all the evidence added up to Zimmerman's account, that the decedent was the primary aggressor.
And they knew what the time s stamps indicated. Duh!


:lamo:lamo:lamo
You have no clue what the reasonable man standard is.
It is written into the law.

There you go assuming again. As already shown it could have gotten there in different ways.

Wow! More convolution.

You have no idea if DeeDee will be testifying or not. And we already know she is not believable. So it is highly unlikely a jury will believe anything she says.

You got nothing.

The police had NO IDEA about any got damn time stamps and phone records because they didn't investigate shyt and they knew nothing about Martin being on the phone until they had already released Zimmerman and said there would be not charges. It wasn't until later that the Martin family attorney found out about the phone records, the SPD never bothered to look or ask for them.

 

[Excon]

Re: What questions would you like answered at the Zimmerman trial? [W:209]

Can someone also point me to some debris on the back of Zimmerman's clothes?

:doh
Look at the images provided.
The staining is clearly there.

If its damned near microscopic then it could have gotten there.from him dusting off his shoes and then scratching his back.

Convoluted.
Yeah sure, he was handcuffed in the back of the squad car and you got him performing gymnastics now. :doh

I need muddy, grassy clothes that look like the knees of Martin's jeans that made contact with the muddy..grass after he was shot and fell to his knees or was held at gun point before being shot dead.

"You need" is a clear indication you are making judgements based on your bias.

What you "need" or what you "want" does not matter.

It is clear he was on his back. A LEO and a witness, besides seeing the grass which is still obviously there, saw the wetness.
Which clearly left residue on the back of the jacket.

In addition, since you want mud. Show us where there was mud that he was in. Come on show us. There was no mud there.
It was wet and grassy. So want all you want, you are not going to get it.

 

[year2late]

Re: What questions would you like answered at the Zimmerman trial? [W:209]

Can someone also point me to some debris on the back of Zimmerman's clothes?

If its damned near microscopic then it could have gotten there.from him dusting off his shoes and then scratching his back.

I need muddy, grassy clothes that look like the knees of Martin's jeans that made contact with the muddy..grass after he was shot and fell to his knees or was held at gun point before being shot dead.

When my son was a little tike, he could fall on clean dry pavement and pick himself right back up and have more debris on him than what it looks like ZImmerman had on his jacket.

 

[Gladiator]

Re: What questions would you like answered at the Zimmerman trial? [W:209]

Eye witness testimony has already shown that Zimmerman was the man on the ground with Martin on top of him... You are questioning what has already been established as true.

No facts have yet been established, because the Jury will determine the facts, based upon evidence and testimony, introduced at Trial. Which witnesses will change their story at trial? How will the Trial testimony differ from interviews?

 

[ric27]

Re: What questions would you like answered at the Zimmerman trial? [W:209]

Do you think the jacket shows signs of a life or death struggle that occurred on the ground in the rain?

The police had NO IDEA about any got damn time stamps and phone records because they didn't investigate shyt and they knew nothing about Martin being on the phone until they had already released Zimmerman and said there would be not charges. It wasn't until later that the Martin family attorney found out about the phone records, the SPD never bothered to look or ask for them.

It boils down to.....ummmm

SPD vs DumDum/Sybrina

Who would you believe more?

 

[ric27]

Re: What questions would you like answered at the Zimmerman trial? [W:209]

When my son was a little tike, he could fall on clean dry pavement and pick himself right back up and have more debris on him than what it looks like ZImmerman had on his jacket.

This means what?

 

[sharon]

Re: What questions would you like answered at the Zimmerman trial? [W:209]

Do you think the screaming "help" over and over indicates a life or death struggle?

Why didn't the moron say he was with NW?

 

[Grim17]

Re: What questions would you like answered at the Zimmerman trial? [W:209]

Why didn't the moron say he was with NW?

As usual, totally irrelevant sharon.

 

[SheWolf]

If rudeness distracts from the topic, it should end. This subform has a reputation of getting carried away and making personal attacks. And you can point out flaws in posts without being a total jerk, now back to the topic.

How is a person supposed to not be rude, or be expected not to be rude, when you have people that make up their own facts, ignore the real facts, won't back up their assertions, and won't answer simple questions about the basis for their beliefs? That is not what I call "having an honest discussion" and it's very difficult to just smile, be nice and pretend that everything is just peachy.

 

[OscarB63]

Re: What questions would you like answered at the Zimmerman trial? [W:209]

Why didn't the moron say he was with NW?

why didn't the moron say he was staying at his father's girlfriend's house?

 

[year2late]

Re: What questions would you like answered at the Zimmerman trial? [W:209]

This means what?

Means that it does not seem logical that the small amount of debris on Zimmermans jacket occurred in a life or death struggle on the ground - let alone wet grass.

But then again, I am speaking to some people that think it is logical and expected to have a few small superficial cuts after having your skull slammed against the concrete multiple times.

 

[Paperview]

Re: What questions would you like answered at the Zimmerman trial? [W:209]

When my son was a little tike, he could fall on clean dry pavement and pick himself right back up and have more debris on him than what it looks like ZImmerman had on his jacket.

Same here.

 

[year2late]

Re: What questions would you like answered at the Zimmerman trial? [W:209]

why didn't the moron say he was staying at his father's girlfriend's house?

A stranger comes up to you demanding information, do you give it?


Yes, if it is a police officer.

I am constantly surprised by the number of responses here that make it seem like being followed or questioned by strangers is a non issue.

 

[ric27]

Re: What questions would you like answered at the Zimmerman trial? [W:209]

Means that it does not seem logical that the small amount of debris on Zimmermans jacket occurred in a life or death struggle on the ground - let alone wet grass.

But then again, I am speaking to some people that think it is logical and expected to have a few small superficial cuts after having your skull slammed against the concrete multiple times.

You are dwelling on irrelevant crap....

Do you know what, the legal justification for shooting in SD is?

 

[Excon]

Re: What questions would you like answered at the Zimmerman trial? [W:209]

The police had NO IDEA about any got damn time stamps and phone records because they didn't investigate

There you go twisting spinning again.
You just said the following: "His phone records, like the time stamped NEN call are IRREFUTABLE!"
They had those records.
There are consistent with his account. So pay attention.
As I stated;

[sarcasm]IRREFUTABLE![/sarcasm] :lamo iLOL
And as the police already knew, all the evidence added up to Zimmerman's account, that the decedent was the primary aggressor.
And they knew what the time stamps indicated. Duh!​

the SPD never bothered to look or ask for them.

Wrong!
They asked for cooperation from Tracy Martin and did not receive it. He said he would get with Crump about it but failed to cooperate after that.
They then sent the phone for further investigation.
So stop with the silliness.

and they knew nothing about Martin being on the phone until they had already released Zimmerman and said there would be not charges. It wasn't until later that the Martin family attorney found out about the phone records,

Wrong.
Had Tracy Martin cooperated they would have discovered DeeDee, who as we all ready know was knee deep in the muck and lies with the same family attorney, "Crump, and also didn't cooperate. Go figure.
But they did find out the phone records through investigation.
So again. Stop with your silliness.

As for DeeDee specifically. We already know she isn't believable, so anything she says can be discounted.

The only thing that would be reliable would be time stamps from the phone, not what she says.
So again, you have nothing.

 

[SheWolf]

Because Z probably wouldn't be dead if he didn't pull the trigger.

Do you think the screaming "help" over and over indicates a life or death struggle?

 

[Excon]

If rudeness distracts from the topic, it should end. This subform has a reputation of getting carried away and making personal attacks. And you can point out flaws in posts without being a total jerk, now back to the topic.

Yes, get back on topic instead of what you are engaged in.

 

[year2late]

Re: What questions would you like answered at the Zimmerman trial? [W:209]

You are dwelling on irrelevant crap....

Do you know what, the legal justification for shooting in SD is?

Do you know what a witness providing a false statement is?

I am not saying his statement is false, just that some of what he says does not match up logically to how he appeared physically right after the incident.

 

[Excon]

Re: What questions would you like answered at the Zimmerman trial? [W:209]

Why didn't the moron say he was with NW?

Why would ™ say he was with NW?

 

[SheWolf]

They didn't witness the whole fight, they didnt see Z roll over 30' down the T with Trayvon on top of him, beating and smothering him.

Eye witness testimony has already shown that Zimmerman was the man on the ground with Martin on top of him... You are questioning what has already been established as true.

 

[Grim17]

Because Z probably wouldn't be dead if he didn't pull the trigger.

The law states that if he feels his life is in danger, or he is in danger of great bodily harm, he has the right to use deadly force.

 

[year2late]

Yes, get back on topic instead of what you are engaged in.

And the topic is "what questions would you like to have cleared up at the Zimmerman trial"

The topic question assumes there are clarifying answers - thus an open mind to what the answers might be.

DO you feel you have an open mind? You seem to give mostly "definite" answers - and we have not even entered the actual trial yet.