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What positive comes from Rap music?

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Rap music through out history has had bad message more often than positive.

So what comes good out of this genre?

I grew up on 80s and 90s hiphop please. a lot of that music was really messed up. Eminem, 3sixmafia, wu tang, gangstarr, NWA, method man, redman, RZA, mobb deep the list can keep going... what rappers were rapping about sunshine and rainbows again?
 
damn crazy teen agers ... and keep off my lawn!!!!!
 
Professor2004 said:
Rap music through out history has had bad message more often than positive.

So what comes good out of this genre?

I grew up on 80s and 90s hiphop please. a lot of that music was really messed up. Eminem, 3sixmafia, wu tang, gangstarr, NWA, method man, redman, RZA, mobb deep the list can keep going... what rappers were rapping about sunshine and rainbows again?
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music is music is music; it's all subjective. If you don't care for it then maybe you should try & not listen to it.
 
Professor2004 said:
Rap music through out history has had bad message more often than positive.

So what comes good out of this genre?

I grew up on 80s and 90s hiphop please. a lot of that music was really messed up. Eminem, 3sixmafia, wu tang, gangstarr, NWA, method man, redman, RZA, mobb deep the list can keep going... what rappers were rapping about sunshine and rainbows again?
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A voice....
 
I'd pretty definitely say the bad far outweighs the good. I don't listen to it on purpose, but generous young men with public address systems in their vehicle frequently serenade me with it as they go by, or while they're parked at the store.

Seems like most of it is objectifying women as bitches whose only function is sex, **** the police, kill the police, glorifying crime and so on.

And many of the genre's biggest fans don't exactly inspire trust and admiration with the image they project or the attitudes they exhibit.


Cue "you're racist!" in 5, 4, 3, 2...
 
#metoo, #itstime, #wearwhite

Next on the Grammy's we will have a moving tribute to bitches and hoes with a little roofie rape added in to the mix.
 
I don't expect hip hop artists to ignore that part of their culture. But it's also disingenuous to ignore that it does have a negative effect with certain people and certain communities. In my experience, a lot of young people absolutely try to emulate that gangbanger lifestyle (whether real or perceived) of their favorite rappers. Again, I don't blame the artists. I don't blame anyone really. But the effect is real imo.

I'll admit I haven't really kept up with rap in about 15 years. But I know back in the 90s when gangster rap was all the rage everyone was a wannabe gangbanger, if not a legit one. I have a hard time believing rap culture of that time didn't play a pretty big role in that. It transcended race and even economic status. Thus why I'm confident rap culture was a big culprit of the phenomenon. People tend to emulate what's popular. Maybe you are right and rap culture has totally changed. Maybe kids are just out there dressing like Cam Newton and listening to Childish Gambino now. I really don't know.
 
Professor2004 said:
In my experience, a lot of young people absolutely try to emulate that gangbanger lifestyle (whether real or perceived) of their favorite rappers. Again, I don't blame the artists. I don't blame anyone really. But the effect is real imo.
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Shouldn't you blame the dumbass kids trying to emulate a lifestyle described in art, or their parents? When did personal responsibility go out the window?

Rap is art. Art emulates life. Life has a voice.

If learning about poverty, injustice and its ramifications in youth disturbs someone so much perhaps they should seek a safe space.
 
Rap and Hip-hop often does have some serious disfunctional and inappropriate themes... and i think it is a big influence on culture, and leads people to dysfunctional and inappropriate lifestyles and viewpoints.

Though, rap and hip-hop cerainly has it's place and I don't think adults should stop listening to it if they like it.... but certainly, the vast majority of the music is not child or family friendly....And I find it highly inappropriate for any parent to endorse their child to listen to the music below the age of 18.

I hear this music at middle school football games.... where sweating ballz and skeet skeeting from the window to the wall is sung as if it's a appropriate lol. Just listen to the message of any of them..... tehy all describe an incredibility dysfunctional value system of hoes, sleeping with bitches, hating the police, money, drugs, fighting, hating.... and this music is what 5 years old's are bumping to...

I EVEN SEE PARENTS TEACHING THEIR 6 YEAR OLD'S HOW TO TWERK!!!

I don't think people realize the real impact this stuff makes on children's futures, when there are a LOT of children with dysfunctional families and literally have no one to look up to for good moral foundation ...

It's ultimately up to the parents, and the people who choose to look at this as a political game when it isn't.
 
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and i think it is a big influence on culture, and leads people to dysfunctional and inappropriate lifestyles and viewpoints.
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You might as well be complaining about books or TV. This is a desperate attempt to blame the voice of the poor and marginalized for society's ills.
 
ecofarm said:
You might as well be complaining about books or TV. This is a desperate attempt to blame the voice of the poor and marginalized for society's ills.
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Just keep enabling the problem....
 
cuban smokes said:
music is music is music; it's all subjective. If you don't care for it then maybe you should try & not listen to it.
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Music is one of the most influential forms of entertainment humans have and has many implications for everyday life. Most people imagine themselves in these verses that's why it's so impactful.
 
celticwar17 said:
Just keep enabling the problem....
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The problem, as you describe it, is dumbass little white boys pretending to be gangsters. Blame them, not black people.
 
BREAKING NEWS ALERT: People of different socioeconomic classes, cultures and generations don't like each other's musical preferences! Details at eleven.
 
Professor2004 said:
Rap music through out history has had bad message more often than positive.

So what comes good out of this genre?

I grew up on 80s and 90s hiphop please. a lot of that music was really messed up. Eminem, 3sixmafia, wu tang, gangstarr, NWA, method man, redman, RZA, mobb deep the list can keep going... what rappers were rapping about sunshine and rainbows again?
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They said the same thing about Rock 'n Roll

 
Professor2004 said:
Music is one of the most influential forms of entertainment humans have and has many implications for everyday life. Most people imagine themselves in these verses that's why it's so impactful.
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sorry, not buying it. I listened to a lot of military music when I was a kid; I haven't joined the military, nor killed a single person yet.
 
Professor2004 said:
A voice of people selling drugs & gun violence.

Not every voice is a good one.
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Not every voice is acceptable to you. However truthfully they speak of their surroundings...

I don't listen to much rap. Not my cup of tea. But you cannot deny the passion and energy most songs convey.
 
cuban smokes said:
sorry, not buying it. I listened to a lot of military music when I was a kid; I haven't joined the military, nor killed a single person yet.
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imitation isn't inspiration or influence. try again.
 
Professor2004 said:
imitation isn't inspiration or influence. try again.
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then you should stop your lying from your post #14 .............. (see below) ............

Professor2004 said:
Music is one of the most influential forms of entertainment humans have and has many implications for everyday life. Most people imagine themselves in these verses that's why it's so impactful.
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you can call it imitation, inspiration, influence, impactful, play all the semantic games you like; just make up your mind & stop your lying .........
 
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Has there ever been a style of music that didn't deal in drug use and women?
 


It's funny to even imagine some gangster on the street emulating rappers. It just shows someone who really has no idea what the streets are really like.
 
Professor2004 said:
Rap music through out history has had bad message more often than positive.

So what comes good out of this genre?

I grew up on 80s and 90s hiphop please. a lot of that music was really messed up. Eminem, 3sixmafia, wu tang, gangstarr, NWA, method man, redman, RZA, mobb deep the list can keep going... what rappers were rapping about sunshine and rainbows again?
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I grew up on 60s and 70s rock, Lots of that was about getting high or getting laid. A bit of the 60s music was about opposition to Vietnam. Much of it was about rebelling against parents/authority.

Some rap blows. Some is about being a thug. Some denigrates women. Lots of it is about young people doing what young people do. And some of it protests injustices - perceived or otherwise. Much of it about rebelling. Pretty much like music kids have always listened to.
 
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