What one idea would most improve our political sytem?

[AGENT J]

Yep, that's how it would work.

Wow, i got that right lol
I feel better but im still not sure i like that to much potential for a non winner to be a winner i think lol if that made sense.

maybe if we ever got to the point of no parties or at least decently equal 4 parties.

neat system though, i think id be more comfortable with a system like that for lower government officials though

 

[AGENT J]

Theres that slightly weird lol again but still no facts or answers...

you just lied, again lol

 

[Paul Austin]

you just lied, again lol

I dont think this is going anywhere, do you? You're not even trying to engage youre just spewing unsubstantiated insults & lol'ing in a weird way. I think we're done, dont you?

 

[AGENT J]

I dont think this is going anywhere, do you? You're not even trying to engage youre just spewing unsubstantiated insults & lol'ing in a weird way. I think we're done, dont you?

what insult did i spew, its a fact you just lied thats not an insult LMAO
I agree its not going anywhere because you are ignoring the facts and arent paying attention to things that are actually being said.

When you are ready to have an honest exchange you let me know, next time read the things actually being said and dont make up stuff in your head and it will work out better for :shrug:

 

[Paul Austin]

what insult did i spew, its a fact you just lied thats not an insult LMAO
I agree its not going anywhere because you are ignoring the facts and arent paying attention to things that are actually being said.

When you are ready to have an honest exchange you let me know, next time read the things actually being said and dont make up stuff in your head and it will work out better for :shrug:

^ My point proven. Pure insults, & nothing related to the thread.

 

[AGENT J]

^ My point proven. Pure insults, & nothing related to the thread.

there wasnt one insult in there, not one

can talk about the thread until you address it honestly LMAO your issue is . . well . . you :shrug:

again let me know when you are ready

 

[CaptainCourtesy]

Moderator's Warning:

Alright, alright... move on you two.

 

[Paul Austin]

there wasnt one insult in there, not one

can talk about the thread until you address it honestly LMAO your issue is . . well . . you :shrug:

again let me know when you are ready

Ill let you know if you dog me with one more insult or false accusation of lying Ill start reporting your posts. Does that make it clear enough?

 

[Paul Austin]

Moderator's Warning:

Alright, alright... move on you two.

Thnx. Looks like we both reached the same point at the same time.

 

[AGENT J]

Ill let you know if you dog me with one more insult or false accusation of lying Ill start reporting your posts. Does that make it clear enough?

"dog me"??? LMAO

fine by me but there was nothing false about what I said you asked me a question i answered and you lied and said i didnt :shrug:
the report button is the little triangle in the lower left, i broke no rule LMAO.

like i said when you are ready for a honesty conversation let me know :shrug:
start by rereading our conversation and accepting the answer you were given LOL

 

[AGENT J]

Thnx. Looks like we both reached the same point at the same time.

LMAO that had nothing to do with you

 

[CaptainCourtesy]

Moderator's Warning:

Gentlemen. I am sitting here waiting for the hurricane to hit and I am NOT in a good mood. MOVE ON or I will go hurricane on both of you. Thanks.

 

[AGENT J]

Moderator's Warning:

Gentlemen. I am sitting here waiting for the hurricane to hit and I am NOT in a good mood. MOVE ON or I will go hurricane on both of you. Thanks.

what up cap?!

im hoping i dont lose power, sadly im at work running test

 

[CaptainCourtesy]

what up cap?!

im hoping i dont lose power, sadly im at work running test

I'm at home in Jersey. I may just go into work, early (power lines there are underground) or I may take my chances at home. Either way, I'm not looking forward to the next 24 hours.

 

[AGENT J]

I'm at home in Jersey. I may just go into work, early (power lines there are underground) or I may take my chances at home. Either way, I'm not looking forward to the next 24 hours.

Well you know im here in the burg but in the rural area. Im a little more in land than you but still hoping for the best.

Im running High Voltage Test in an environmental chamber thats gas heated and nitrogen cooled, i REALLY dont want any power lose or flickers lol

With my luck it will hit on the drive home.

 

[CaptainCourtesy]

Well you know im here in the burg but in the rural area. Im a little more in land than you but still hoping for the best.

I'm about 30 miles from the coast, so that's not too bad.

Im running High Voltage Test in an environmental chamber thats gas heated and nitrogen cooled, i REALLY dont want any power lose or flickers lol

With my luck it will hit on the drive home.

Be careful on that drive. Last year during the Halloween "Snowpacolypse" a tree fell on someone's car while they were driving.

 

[obvious Child]

I kind of stole this from the economy question cause i liked it.

what one single idea or a few related ideas do you think would most improve our political system?

Id like 3 candidates(parties) minimum running for president all the times meaning involved in the debates and everything else.
Congress is no longer allowed majorities.

those are my two what do you think would help?

I wish we didint have any parties but oh well that aint happening.

Redistrict to make all races competitive, no Republican or Democrat strongholds if possible, or abet very weak ones. Then move to open primaries where the top two vote receivers from all candidates move to the general election.

That I think will solve a great many of our problems.

 

[AGENT J]

I'm about 30 miles from the coast, so that's not too bad.



Be careful on that drive. Last year during the Halloween "Snowpacolypse" a tree fell on someone's car while they were driving.

yeah im actually not going to take the back roads just because of that, i can take almost all highway home if i want and it think i definitely want

 

[Paul Austin]

Moderator's Warning:

Gentlemen. I am sitting here waiting for the hurricane to hit and I am NOT in a good mood. MOVE ON or I will go hurricane on both of you. Thanks.

Both of who?

 

[AGENT J]

Redistrict to make all races competitive, no Republican or Democrat strongholds if possible, or abet very weak ones. Then move to open primaries where the top two vote receivers from all candidates move to the general election.

That I think will solve a great many of our problems.

I like that on paper, how would you redistrict though?

anything that can accomplish the goal of deluding right vs left and bring more parties/candidates to the table im in favor of.

 

[obvious Child]

Objective and Paul, How about this:

In the primary election for Presidential races, only private financing is available. Which ever candidate on all 50 states and various voting territories, districts and common wealths makes it above some threshold (say 10% or whatever you want) recieves public financing for the general election. Private financing is therefore barred for the general election.

 

[obvious Child]

I like that on paper, how would you redistrict though?

How California is attempting to do it. Take voter data on where people live and then start changing districts so that no party has any clear majority. That might be hard say in the Bay Area, but at least we could reduce Democrat strength to the 50% or 60% rather than what it is now. This will require a large amount of data no question, but I think it would basically eliminate extremists entirely from our system.

anything that can accomplish the goal of deluding right vs left and bring more parties/candidates to the table im in favor of.

I think most rational people can agree with that.

 

[AGENT J]

Objective and Paul, How about this:

In the primary election for Presidential races, only private financing is available. Which ever candidate on all 50 states and various voting territories, districts and common wealths makes it above some threshold (say 10% or whatever you want) recieves public financing for the general election. Private financing is therefore barred for the general election.

that could work, not sure i fully understand though, dont you think the threshold would have to be much high not to have to many canidates though

 

[Paul Austin]

Objective and Paul, How about this:

In the primary election for Presidential races, only private financing is available. Which ever candidate on all 50 states and various voting territories, districts and common wealths makes it above some threshold (say 10% or whatever you want) recieves public financing for the general election. Private financing is therefore barred for the general election.

This is the sort of complication I was trying to deal with before the insults and accusations of lying were thrown at me.

You see under such a scenario public funding would be limited on an arbitary basis that wouldnt be "fair", for example it allows private finance, as we have now, so the system would be as fair, or as unfair as it is now, but with a twist that we are also then forced to fund parties who we may not agree with or who might potentially even persecute us.

The notion of public funding, or being forced to give to parties is a really horrible idea when you think about it & even a civil rights abuse.

I mean think about it in 1930's Germany, youd have Jews, gypsies & others forced to fund Hitler, how could that be good?

Its also shown to prop up the status quo and to stifle change.

 

[AGENT J]

1.)How California is attempting to do it. Take voter data on where people live and then start changing districts so that no party has any clear majority. That might be hard say in the Bay Area, but at least we could reduce Democrat strength to the 50% or 60% rather than what it is now. This will require a large amount of data no question, but I think it would basically eliminate extremists entirely from our system.



2.)I think most rational people can agree with that.

1.)sooo are you just talking state level then and keeping the EC then? Id love to get rid of it but only if other things change along with it.
2.) you woudld think i just talked to somebody yesterday i think that wants MORE partisanship. go lord