What method of voting would you prefer? (referring to method of tabulation, not in person vs mail)

[Safiel]

What method of voting would you prefer?

 

[phoenix2020]

Bamboo paper.

 

[Safiel]

I have voted using the scantron style machines for years with no issues.

Physical ballot record exists.

Little to zero chance of manipulation of the machines.

Plus easy for the voters, votes are counted in real time and results are available very shortly after poll closing.

 

[ttwtt78640]

I have voted using the scantron style machines for years with no issues.

Physical ballot record exists.

Little to zero chance of manipulation of the machines.

Plus easy for the voters, votes are counted in real time and results are available very shortly after poll closing.

Does that (bolded above) mean no ballots received after the polls closed are counted?

 

[Safiel]

Does that (bolded above) mean no ballots received after the polls closed are counted?

I don't want to get into the propriety of counting late votes, which is beyond the scope of this thread.

But if a late vote arrived and legally could be counted, it could be counted immediately upon receipt and the vote total updated immediately.

On the other hand, a jurisdiction could simply refuse to count late arriving votes.

 

[mrjurrs]

Tjhis question assumes therer has been a problem with the way we vote across America.

What problem are you looking to solve?

 

[hecatmoggie]

I'd prefer a GOP created/approved voting machine

 

[Peacenik]

Online.

 

[upsideguy]

What method of voting would you prefer?

What difference does it make? I am not sure I understand the point of this poll? I do love mail-in balloting that we have in Colorado. It is great!

I thought maybe we would be discussing such things as ranked choice voting, which I am in favor of....

 

[Safiel]

Tjhis question assumes therer has been a problem with the way we vote across America.

What problem are you looking to solve?

I am not looking to solve any problem and locally we have a scantron system that I would not change.

Just a poll.

Nothing that should be read into this, beyond the actual poll.

 

[Hari Seldon]

Tjhis question assumes therer has been a problem with the way we vote across America.

What problem are you looking to solve?

The problem of the malignant narcissist scumbag piece of shit liar grifter rapist seditionist felon serial adulterer tax cheat and pedophile losing an election.

 

[Safiel]

The problem of the malignant narcissist scumbag piece of shit liar grifter rapist seditionist felon serial adulterer tax cheat and pedophile losing an election.

That would definitely NOT be me.

 

[reinaert]

NH's was excellent until Republican scaremongering last few years. Paper ballots, scanned and preserved. No ID. If you didn't have ID, you filed an on-site affidavit which came with a 5-year prison penalty.

 

[GIJane]

I'd prefer a GOP created/approved voting machine

I don't want a voting machine created by either party. And I vote conservative.

 

[Safiel]

I don't want a voting machine created by either party. And I vote conservative.

Fortunately, scantron style machines are produced by several companies and since they are fairly passive in nature, no software issues to worry about.

 

[Hari Seldon]

Let's bring back the hanging chad.

 

[NoMoreDems-Reps]

What ever way allows 100% Traceability back to the voter and makes it impossible for the Criminal Politicians to CHEAT!!!

 

[Ishm]

As a comparison to what we do in the US, here is what they do in New Zealand where I now live and vote. And the results they achieve.

- Paper votes
- Hand counted
- Party observers are in the polling booths if the parties choose to use them
- Saturday voting finishes at 7pm
- Special votes for those that can't get to a polling booth on election day are open for 10 days post election, but numbers are low
- No voter ID required, but you must be registered on the voting list to vote, else you make a Special Vote which will be closely scrutinised before being counted
- You can register on the day, but I am not sure what that process requires. Probably a Special Vote
- Special Votes are the only form of Mail in voting
- If you live in an urban area you are likely within walking distance of a polling booth. A lot of PB's seem to be in local schools
- In my limited experience, queue times are very short. Just a few minutes
- Voting takes place in Spring, and the weather is usually mild enough that it isn't an issue for people getting to vote

Results
- You will mostly know which party is going to form the new govt by midnight on polling day. The complication in a close race can come if a coalition govt needs to be formed, but you usually know who the coalition partners are likely to be anyway
- You will in nearly all cases know who your local representative is going to be before you go to bed. The late Special vote counts rarely change the election night results

Observations
- None of the parties here try to tell people that the election process is flawed as an excuse for their election losses. Trust in the process is very high
- Voter turnout here is typically 75% to 80%+. In the US, low 60% range is more normal
- There are more polling stations per 100,000 population here than we today use in the US. NZ population density is about half that of the US, but even with that lower density, paper ballots, and hand counting, the results are mostly in by midnight?? What are we doing in the US that makes our counting often so slow, even when using machines?
- The govt does a significant pre-election mail out designed to make sure that everyone who should be registered has an easy and timely way to get registered
- The barriers to voting are very low, but the system is very bi-partisan, and public trust in it is very high. No voter ID, easy access to polling stations, easy to understand voting cards, short queues, no weird laws about handing out water etc etc

 

[molten_dragon]

My preference is for paper ballots scanned electronically for speed and efficiency reasons. Preserve the ballots in case any verification or recounts are needed. And there should be spot checks done on each machine to verify it's counting accurately.

 

[Checkerboard Strangler]

What method of voting would you prefer?

A UNIFORM NATIONAL STANDARD enforced equally in all states at all times, and a system designed to encourage voting, not repress it.
And regulation on money in politics.
Those are the most important things.

 

[Fletch]

NH's was excellent until Republican scaremongering last few years. Paper ballots, scanned and preserved. No ID. If you didn't have ID, you filed an on-site affidavit which came with a 5-year prison penalty.

Whats wrong with that?

 

[Bubber]

In Kentucky, we use paper ballots (fill in the bubble next to the candidate of your choice). They are fed into a scanner that sits upon a lockbox. Your ballot is scanned and counted and the paper copy falls into the lockbox below. After the polls close, the drive plugged into the scanner is delivered to the courthouse by ballot workers to be recorded. At least two workers, one from each party, make this trip in the same vehicle and hand them physically to elections officers. After election day, a certain number of the lock boxes are audited, but they otherwise remain sealed and locked. They can be opened and hand counted by a judges order.

It's fairly new here, only a couple of cycles old, but overall, I like this system.

 

[WorldWatcher]

What ever way allows 100% Traceability back to the voter and makes it impossible for the Criminal Politicians to CHEAT!!!

We have secret ballots here in this country. You knew that right?

Once a vote is cast there is SUPPOSED to be no way to trace it back.

WW

 

[Aries]

None of the parties here try to tell people that the election process is flawed as an excuse for their election losses. Trust in the process is very high

What? Your politicians are adults that want to do their jobs?

What about bromances and X feuds? Conspiracy theories? Partisan hatred? Dehumanizing rhetoric?

C'mon, for the love of all that is good tell me that there are at least two politicians that say wackadoo things just to get attention.

 

[Aries]

In Kentucky, we use paper ballots (fill in the bubble next to the candidate of your choice). They are fed into a scanner that sits upon a lockbox. Your ballot is scanned and counted and the paper copy falls into the lockbox below. After the polls close, the drive plugged into the scanner is delivered to the courthouse by ballot workers to be recorded. At least two workers, one from each party, make this trip in the same vehicle and hand them physically to elections officers. After election day, a certain number of the lock boxes are audited, but they otherwise remain sealed and locked. They can be opened and hand counted by a judges order.

It's fairly new here, only a couple of cycles old, but overall, I like this system.

Same in Minnesota, well the actual voter process anyway. Not sure about the delivery of hard drives.